Tyrese Maxeys MVP Performance just one more black eye...
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Some of you are just so obsessed with Cal (obsession can go both ways)!
Just give it up!!!
I'd be happy if we don't see his name again on this board, but I know some of you won't let your obsession go.
I prefer to focus on the present and the future (of UK basketball).
Just give it up!!!
I'd be happy if we don't see his name again on this board, but I know some of you won't let your obsession go.
I prefer to focus on the present and the future (of UK basketball).
Of all the examples you could have used, Maxey? That was Cal's last SEC title, he was the best player on that team, and we didn't even get the chance to underperform in the postseason. If we win the SEC Tourney and make a Final 4 that year Cal would still be here. Time to put the snake oil salesman in the rearview and move on, there's no point in justifying our displeasure with the previous regime anymore.
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That team looked better when Hagans quit. Same thing with Tyty. Maxey got his minutes but was misused. You can deny it all you want.
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Hagan's missed like one game didn't he? We won by like 1 against Florida.
That team looked better when Hagans quit. Same thing with Tyty. Maxey got his minutes but was misused. You can deny it all you want.
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Hagan's missed like one game didn't he? We won by like 1 against Florida.
Those aren't me but nice try. Not sure if a mod can prove it to you.
The one new account posted in this thread before I responded initially as well.
When he said no more platoons I knew it was over for more championships. It was clear it was about playing time for his ego of star players then winning games.
You know we were rolling with Maxey heading into that tournament and it was canceled cause of a pandemic.
Are we now blaming Cal for Covid too?
I'm still trying to figure out what Maxey is MVP of? Game 5? First Round Exits? Going 6-18 in must win games?
Hagan's missed like one game didn't he? We won by like 1 against Florida.
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We lost the game before that to UT and he’d been a head case for a few games before that as well. You sticking up for Hagans antics at that time? The photo with the money and then disappearing?
Do you think Hagans seemed like a better option at the end of that season than Maxey?
You can retcon this BS all you want. Cal should have been playing Maxey over Hagans. Cal should have played Tyty over Wheeler and he should have started Dillingham and Sheppard over Edwards and DJ. He botched his lineups and apparently a handful of people enjoyed watching it happen.
We lost the game before that to UT and he’d been a head case for a few games before that as well. You sticking up for Hagans antics at that time? The photo with the money and then disappearing?
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I dont really like Hagans from what I remember so no. I'm fine with moving hagans to 6th man on that team if March happened.
Idk if they had depth to do much without him contributing something.
That season summed up for me is lose to Evansville, somehow win sec, and then covid happened. I don't have faith that team would have went far as calipari had already went full retard by then IMO.
The losses to auburn and ksu the two prior seasons and then Evansville showed it.
Good luck to Maxey and thanks for coming to UK to play basketball. Otherwise, I’m not a follower. I’m not an NBA slurper. Could care less who wins in the NBA.
Jones and Lamb were there because the lockout. They're part of the argument. Hate it all you want, but it's the truth. The big difference in 2012 and 2015 were returning players. Most other years, we had star freshmen... even if they weren't AD and MKG level talents. The OP said that coach K would've won 5 more titles with Cal's rosters. I strongly disagree, although I'm confident he would've won in 2015 with our roster, even with AP hurt.
And Davis and MKG and Vargas which sucked but spelled Davis? Zero chance of winning without Davis and MKG. Point being people want to point to certain players but zero ships without all of them. It’s a weak argument to say anything else.
No... it's not a weak argument. The difference in 2012 and 2015 were returning stars... you can't win with ALL freshmen. That is the entire argument. AD and MKG were freshmen, just like Fox and Monk, etc... none of them won the ship except the group that had returning talent. There's NO WAY that Coach K would've won 5 titles with Cal's rosters
Here’s your quote. “We don't win in 2012 without Darius Miller and unexpected returnees due to the lockout”.
Even with the returnees and Miller we don’t win without the freshmen.
I agree with you on that... but we had really talented freshmen nearly every year. What we didn't have were guys good enough to leave, but stay. The talented freshmen were a constant throughout Cal's time here. Coach K would not have won 5 titles with our rosters. He couldn't win with an insane amount of freshman talent with Zion and co... I do think he would've won in 2015 though.
I agree but my statement was that I hate the argument that specifying we couldn’t have won without a particular player. We couldn’t have won with all of them including the practice players. The algorithm associated with the dynamics is too great to dismiss the others.
What's the point here? He was never or was he allowed to play in any post season games because of Covid.
CAL'S BALL LICKERS AT IT AGAIN
CAL'S BALL LICKERS AT IT AGAIN
It's the hardest title to win in all of sports. What UConn did is amazing. It's the only sport where the best team usually doesn't win the championship. One and done tournaments are difficult. In football the talent gap is huge between the elite and the others. In basketball it is very slim..
He should have been the primary ball handler in my opinion. Hagans was too out of control and provided no scoring threat especially from deep.
Right. I’ve been watching the sport for over 30 years but I appreciate the heads up. Winning a title is hard. That’s why you have to make sure if your method starts to shows sign of decline, it’s time to adapt again.
Yes
Players do grow up, mature and develop
I hold Calipari responsible for a lot of things
This is not one of them
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