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Trent Noah had 4 rebounds in 12 minutes, Amari 5 in 23

Since Amari is not living up to some peoples expectations they're ready to bench him and move on to somebody/anybody instead. He still gives 10 and 9 per game in 20 min which isn't to shabby. Could he be more aggressive maybe but he is by far the best we have this year. BG gives you barely more than half that with less rim protection in 2 mins less. AW is giving what Pope expectations are I believe. Just because someone doesn't meet what you expect or want is not a them problem it is a you problem by being a sorry evaluator.
 
Oweh was also a bright spot …but then that’s become the normal thing. Otega has established himself as easily this team’s best player.

I never would’ve guessed that when the season began.
he was extremy tired in the end

Making missed ft and turnovers

No one really helped him yesterday
 
Neither Amari or Garrison are quick leapers....neither does a good job of boxing out aggressively. They're both very mediocre players at this level, but we're basically stuck with them.

Another deficiency I see is few players on our team are good at anticipating where a long three pt shot will carom off the board. We consistently get beaten to those shots by opposing teams. On one possession Vandy missed 3-4 long threes in a row and got the offensive board.
 
Neither Amari or Garrison are quick leapers....neither does a good job of boxing out aggressively. They're both very mediocre players at this level, but we're basically stuck with them.

Another deficiency I see is few players on our team are good at anticipating where a long three pt shot will carom off the board. We consistently get beaten to those shots by opposing teams. On one possession Vandy missed 3-4 long threes in a row and got the offensive board.
And those are the areas we should be excelling in. The nuances.

Their athletic ability was never going to be different. They are 5th year guys because of that.

But they should out smarting other teams. We should be executing the game plan to precision. That’s how this team will win.

It became a tired excuse with our prior teams about being young. But it was a fact. Freshmen play like freshmen.

I, and I think most, welcomed not having to see that movie again.

This team wasn’t turning the ball over early. Even while learning the system they protected the ball.

Now they are playing like freshmen.

Granted we have some injuries and some having to play too many minutes because of that.

But that doesn’t explain the unforced errors and poor decision making.
 
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Love Noah I’ve been wanting to see more of him than we have especially when guys like Robinson or Brea won’t fight
It’s not like any of them are defensive stoppers
I just want to see more competitive guys like Krissa Noah Oweh THE OLD Butler
I can stand mistakes but we got a bunch of soft dudes
I'm surprised at how little playing time Noah has gotten. I would understand if the other guys were all playing great, but the truth is they aren't. Noah plays hard, can shoot the ball, and doesn't seem to be afraid of contact. Seems like to me he just needs more reps. When a 3 point shooting team is struggling to shoot 3s, putting in one of your best 3 point shooters seems like a no brainier.
 
And those are the areas we should be excelling in. The nuances.

Their athletic ability was never going to be different. They are 5th year guys because of that.

But they should out smarting other teams. We should be executing the game plan to precision. That’s how this team will win.

It became a tired excuse with our prior teams about being young. But it was a fact. Freshmen play like freshmen.

I, and I think most, welcomed not having to see that movie again.

This team wasn’t turning the ball over early. Even while learning the system they protected the ball.

Now they are playing like freshmen.

Granted we have some injuries and some having to play too many minutes because of that.

But that doesn’t explain the unforced errors and poor decision making.
I feel this team does not have underdog spirit anymore. Do not fight as hard as early season

When vs Duke and Gonzaga, these players need to prove themselves, now they may be already satisfied as we are highly ranked
 
There was one play that was especially baffling. Looked like he was in perfect position to easily swat away that little guard’s shot in the lane. But he didn’t even try, never even lifted his arms, just watched him make the layup.

If I were Pope, I’d make him rewatch that moment several times and let him know THAT can’t happen again.
Especially when you consider Amari had ZERO fouls. You would have thought he had 4.

This is what I get frustrated about. Pope sees it. I mean he has to yet he still seems to think Amari is the guy. Pope had limited time to assemble a roster and I’m sure he did the best he could (or anyone could) but Amari is not reliable in the worst way possible. He is not reliable in the level of effort he gives.

Garrison has his flaws but may be back next year so why not ride with the guy who will at least be consistent in level of effort and get him more prepared for next year? I don’t understand his belief in Amari. He has shown what he is and until he proves he will change, he should be a reserve. His minutes when Carr is back would be severely limited.
 
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I feel this team does not have underdog spirit anymore. Do not fight as hard as early season

When vs Duke and Gonzaga, these players need to prove themselves, now they may be already satisfied as we are highly ranked
Maybe?

I don’t know.

But having said everything I said, I still expect to beat UT Tuesday night!!🏀👍
 
I'm surprised at how little playing time Noah has gotten. I would understand if the other guys were all playing great, but the truth is they aren't. Noah plays hard, can shoot the ball, and doesn't seem to be afraid of contact. Seems like to me he just needs more reps. When a 3 point shooting team is struggling to shoot 3s, putting in one of your best 3 point shooters seems like a no brainier.
Pope has him slotted as a 3 or even small ball 4. There’s a logjam at the 3 with Robinson, Brea, & Almanor. And Carr & Almanor both at the 4 in a typical lineup. I would have liked to have seen Almanor as a backup for Carr and Noah given more run at the 3. We could use his rebounding and shooting to space the floor. We may see that from here on out to give Carr a breather when he comes back. I’m sure it’s hard for coaches to prioritizing true freshmen when you have 4-5 year guys you’ve paid to come play mins.
 
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Pope has him slotted as a 3 or even small ball 4. There’s a logjam at the 3 with Robinson, Brea, & Almanor. And Carr & Almanor both at the 4 in a typical lineup. I would have liked to have seen Almanor as a backup for Carr and Noah given more run at the 3. We could use his rebounding and shooting to space the floor. We may see that from here on out to give Carr a breather when he comes back. I’m sure it’s hard for coaches to prioritizing true freshmen when you have 4-5 year guys you’ve paid to come play mins.
I totally get that and I'm not advocating for Noah to be getting starter minutes. But 5-10 a game back when we were playing the cupcakes would have been a big benefit right about now.
 
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Pope has him slotted as a 3 or even small ball 4. There’s a logjam at the 3 with Robinson, Brea, & Almanor. And Carr & Almanor both at the 4 in a typical lineup. I would have liked to have seen Almanor as a backup for Carr and Noah given more run at the 3. We could use his rebounding and shooting to space the floor. We may see that from here on out to give Carr a breather when he comes back. I’m sure it’s hard for coaches to prioritizing true freshmen when you have 4-5 year guys you’ve paid to come play mins.

Exactly. The veterans were promised minutes due to NIL.

It's no different than promising freshmen minutes.
 
Noah is my favorite of the recruiting group. As someone mentioned, he is still maturing. He needs to add muscle and conditioning before the start of next season. I haven't given up on Perry and Chandler but I would be more surprised if either one of them was ever more than a role player. Noah has a chance to be a real contributor. jmo
 
Amari with no fouls and backed off instead of contesting the layup late. I just don’t see what Pope sees that Amari is a guy to ride.

And no I’m not advocating for more playing time for Noah.
Well, let me relieve you of any obligation to support Trent Noah. I definitely advocate more playing time for Noah ! ! ! I'll support Trent Noah enough for both of us, fishercatfan.
Go 'Cats ! Go Trent !
 
His four turn overs were not bright spots, he did some good things but he stunk it up some too.
Oweh's turnovers almost always are a function of his effort and aggressiveness. No matter what Robinson's stats are, I find his absolutely passive and unaggressive court demeanor to be utterly disgusting ! I want to stand back-to-back with Otega in a bar fight !
Go 'Cats !
 
Oweh's turnovers almost always are a function of his effort and aggressiveness. No matter what Robinson's stats are, I find his absolutely passive and unaggressive court demeanor to be utterly disgusting ! I want to stand back-to-back with Otega in a bar fight !
Go 'Cats !
Good thing it wasn’t a bar fight with our team’s lack of effort we would have been the bodies on the floor.

Four turn overs are too many for a shooting guard.
 
Well, let me relieve you of any obligation to support Trent Noah. I definitely advocate more playing time for Noah ! ! ! I'll support Trent Noah enough for both of us, fishercatfan.
Go 'Cats ! Go Trent !
No need to relieve me of anything because this wasn’t a slight on Noah but you do you, ripcord65
 
I totally get that and I'm not advocating for Noah to be getting starter minutes. But 5-10 a game back when we were playing the cupcakes would have been a big benefit right about now.
I agree. I’ve been saying it all year. I’ve always thought he had the most potential of the freshmen because of his size and shooting ability. He’s a legit 6’6” with no shoes. I know for a fact. When Thad Matta came to recruit him they measured him at 6’6” and Matta said he was 6’7”-6’8” because no one plays basketball barefoot. lol. 6’7” & 225 is a big kid for a true freshmen.
 
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Noah has been a quite pleasant surprise. I didn’t know anything about him other that he signed with USC and could shoot.

I knew quite a bit about Perry and thought he would do better.

Noah is this baby faced old school dude. He shows no fear. You could tell Perry was pressing early. If Noah is pressing he doesn’t show it.

I’m glad we have him. He’s not going to be a Ky boy just riding the bench. He is going to help us.
 
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Exactly. The veterans were promised minutes due to NIL.

It's no different than promising freshmen minutes.
It is what it is in the pay for play era. Hard to take away from a vet who you paid and give to a true freshmen who’s still learning. We see it in the NBA all the time. Bigger the contract, the more you’re played to get their money’s worth.
 
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Since Amari is not living up to some peoples expectations they're ready to bench him and move on to somebody/anybody instead. He still gives 10 and 9 per game in 20 min which isn't to shabby. Could he be more aggressive maybe but he is by far the best we have this year. BG gives you barely more than half that with less rim protection in 2 mins less. AW is giving what Pope expectations are I believe. Just because someone doesn't meet what you expect or want is not a them problem it is a you problem by being a sorry evaluator.
I'd rather see the roles switched. Start Brandon and bring Amari off the bench. Brandon plays hard and you have to somewhat respect his shot. He's going to be really good in time and he has a little Magloire in him. We need some nastiness down low.
 
I'd rather see the roles switched. Start Brandon and bring Amari off the bench. Brandon plays hard and you have to somewhat respect his shot. He's going to be really good in time and he has a little Magloire in him. We need some nastiness down low.
I agree that’s why the staff should have recruited Chris Cenac for next season.
 
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Williams is limited. He does average more rebounds than Chuck Hayes did and most of you have morphed him into a Dennis Rodman type of player.

Noah shouldn’t even get floor time and hopefully after this year that isn’t an issue.
 
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Many poor individual performances today.
Amari - looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Don’t ever dribble and back down your defender. Shoot or pass immediately after receiving the ball. Points are not expected, rebounds and defense are.
Lamont - has he forgotten how to play? Some bench may be good for him also.
3. Ortega, Ansley, & Trent - hustled and a want to win today. Buy them an ice cream Coach!

Defense:
1. We cannot stop penetration, so we rotate to stop that player, but don’t rotate down resulting in a layup or dunk
2. Also we sag too much on penetration leaving 1-2 open behind the 3 point line. Every team has at least (2) 3-point shooters so you have to play more towards the shooters.
3. Most disappointing is the lack of hustle. Bench time could solve this problem.

Offense
1. We are not running the offense! How many back door buckets did we get. There were very few hard cuts today. More dribbling than passing.
2. Turnovers!!

What can CMP do?

You don’t hustle or play defense, you sit! .
Having UK on your uniform does not intimidate your opponent or guarantee a win.
Believe a mid-season correction is needed aka a butt chewing.
UT will pound us as they have tough players unless we get tough too in the next few days.

I still have the faith that this will be a good season. But you have to earn it.
Who the hell are all these bench players you’re planning on bringing in? We must have some guys on the roster that I don’t know about.
 
I agree. I’ve been saying it all year. I’ve always thought he had the most potential of the freshmen because of his size and shooting ability. He’s a legit 6’6” with no shoes. I know for a fact. When Thad Matta came to recruit him they measured him at 6’6” and Matta said he was 6’7”-6’8” because no one plays basketball barefoot. lol. 6’7” & 225 is a big kid for a true freshmen.
Do you really think he's 6'7" or 6'8" in shoes (because if he's 6'6"barefoot then he would certainly be at least 6'7" in shoes)? Noah just doesn't look quite that tall to me. Looks more like a solid 6'5" in shoes, but I wouldn't argue over 6'6". Either way, recruiting fan boys are going to struggle to accept that he'll be a big contributor at any point in his career at UK. But I'm excited about his potential.
 
Amari is so lazy on rebounding and defending under the basket. Stands there and doesn’t even put his arms up sometimes to try to alter a shot. Garrison isn’t a whole lot better. No excuses for those two not to average 20 rebounds a game combined with their size.
Yep. Plus Almonor ain't getting it done either.
Not sure Noah is the answer but he could be part of the answer. Legit 6'6" and 220. He has grit and will fight at least.
Someone mentioned Chuck Hayes on one of the posts, now I know Noah isn't Hayes, but in time he is gonna be a major contributor.
 
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Do you really think he's 6'7" or 6'8" in shoes (because if he's 6'6"barefoot then he would certainly be at least 6'7" in shoes)? Noah just doesn't look quite that tall to me. Looks more like a solid 6'5" in shoes, but I wouldn't argue over 6'6". Either way, recruiting fan boys are going to struggle to accept that he'll be a big contributor at any point in his career at UK. But I'm excited about his potential.
Yeah, the simple eye test doesn’t support that guy’s claim about his size. To me he looks about 6’5” …maybe 6’6” in shoes …when standing next to other players on the court.
 
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Do you really think he's 6'7" or 6'8" in shoes (because if he's 6'6"barefoot then he would certainly be at least 6'7" in shoes)? Noah just doesn't look quite that tall to me. Looks more like a solid 6'5" in shoes, but I wouldn't argue over 6'6". Either way, recruiting fan boys are going to struggle to accept that he'll be a big contributor at any point in his career at UK. But I'm excited about his potential.
I’m still pretty involved with basketball in the 13th region. I know he was 6’5” going into AAU the summer before his SR season and then measured 6’6” right before committing to South Carolina. His dad and his highschool coach both told me the same thing. His high school coach told me the Thad Matta Story. His words were that Matta watched him workout and remarked on how his build matched the bodies of his Sr’s. They put him on a scale and tape measure and that’s when Matta said, no he’s 6’7” because no one plays basketball barefooted. He could still grow. He’s baby faced as can be. Butler wanted him bad. When he decomitted, TN, Louisville, & a bunch of power 5 schools tried to recruit him but he knew he wanted to go to UK. He has a cousin now that’s committed to ETSU who plays similar to Perry with a bigger build that I look to transfer to a bigger D-1 school eventually. Maybe not power 5, but a bigger school.
 
I’m still pretty involved with basketball in the 13th region. I know he was 6’5” going into AAU the summer before his SR season and then measured 6’6” right before committing to South Carolina. His dad and his highschool coach both told me the same thing. His high school coach told me the Thad Matta Story. His words were that Matta watched him workout and remarked on how his build matched the bodies of his Sr’s. They put him on a scale and tape measure and that’s when Matta said, no he’s 6’7” because no one plays basketball barefooted. He could still grow. He’s baby faced as can be. Butler wanted him bad. When he decomitted, TN, Louisville, & a bunch of power 5 schools tried to recruit him but he knew he wanted to go to UK. He has a cousin now that’s committed to ETSU who plays similar to Perry with a bigger build that I look to transfer to a bigger D-1 school eventually. Maybe not power 5, but a bigger school.
Thanks for the firsthand information.
 
Since Amari is not living up to some peoples expectations they're ready to bench him and move on to somebody/anybody instead. He still gives 10 and 9 per game in 20 min which isn't to shabby. Could he be more aggressive maybe but he is by far the best we have this year. BG gives you barely more than half that with less rim protection in 2 mins less. AW is giving what Pope expectations are I believe. Just because someone doesn't meet what you expect or want is not a them problem it is a you problem by being a sorry evaluator.

So you're saying that Pope's expectation is for Amari to stand there under the basket, with his hands by his sides instead of protecting the rim? There's FAR more to basketball than how many points and rebounds you put up. I 100% guarantee you that he gives up bigger numbers than he puts up.
 
Yep. Plus Almonor ain't getting it done either.
Not sure Noah is the answer but he could be part of the answer. Legit 6'6" and 220. He has grit and will fight at least.
Someone mentioned Chuck Hayes on one of the posts, now I know Noah isn't Hayes, but in time he is gonna be a major contributor.
I really enjoy watching Noah. The other guys sometimes look like they're trying to create their brand out there. Trent just gets in there and does all the right things and FIGHTS.
 
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