No one sentence better sums up the Baker era in Cincinnati than this one...Originally posted by UK_WINS_NCAA:
Looks like it's gonna work out for them, but my god what a terrible manager he is.
No one sentence better sums up the Baker era in Cincinnati than this one...Originally posted by UK_WINS_NCAA:
Looks like it's gonna work out for them, but my god what a terrible manager he is.
Why in the world would you give up Homer? He's 26 and entering the prime of his career? Are you high?..drunk?..stupid?Originally posted by TCPUKChamps:
They may sneak into the WC playoff, but once again, despite all the spending, their ceiling is the NLDS.
Bailey, Choo, Chapman, Hanigan, Marshall, Broxton, Phillips all need moved. Bailey/Choo/Chapman/Hanigan (When healthy) to replenish the farm system, Marshall/Broxton/Phillips for a bag of balls to shed salary.
Time to rebuild around Votto/Mesoraco/Latos/Cueto/Hamilton/Cingrani/Leake
I'd offer Chapman to Detroit for Castellanos/Rondon/Smyly
Move Cingrani to closer, Smyly takes over as LH reliever.
Rondon as the setup man
Because he'll be a FA after next year and will probably be out of the Reds price range. That and he's shown no inclination so far of discussing a Long Term Extension.Originally posted by kev69:
Why in the world would you give up Homer? He's 26 and entering the prime of his career? Are you high?..drunk?..stupid?Originally posted by TCPUKChamps:
They may sneak into the WC playoff, but once again, despite all the spending, their ceiling is the NLDS.
Bailey, Choo, Chapman, Hanigan, Marshall, Broxton, Phillips all need moved. Bailey/Choo/Chapman/Hanigan (When healthy) to replenish the farm system, Marshall/Broxton/Phillips for a bag of balls to shed salary.
Time to rebuild around Votto/Mesoraco/Latos/Cueto/Hamilton/Cingrani/Leake
I'd offer Chapman to Detroit for Castellanos/Rondon/Smyly
Move Cingrani to closer, Smyly takes over as LH reliever.
Rondon as the setup man
Nice postOriginally posted by Vandalayindustries:
The "Dusty is a horrible manager" crowd are just ridiculous. The Reds made the post-season once in 18 years and this will be their 3rd in 4 years. The Cubs hadn't won a post-season series in nearly a hundred years and did under Dusty and should have been to the World Series if not for a comedy of errors. The Giants had been to the World Series exactly one time since moving west and they did it under Dusty. Those aren't coincidences. Is he the best manager in the game? Absolutely not, but he's not nearly as horrible as you small-minded fools make him out to be.
And no way do you trade Homer Bailey or Arroyo or blow up the team. They've missed their #1 starter basically all season long. Their LF missed almost the entire season. Their SS and 3B can't hit, half their bullpen is still injured, Votto has had a down year, and they have no bench yet they're well-ahead for the last wildcard spot.
All they need to do is get healthy and get hot in October. They have a 2-3 year run in them to have a decent chance so no way do you make major changes.
Well, he has been a major leaguer for about ten minutes now, but that being said, makes it a much tougher call for the Reds as to what to do with Choo next season. If he won't take anything but a multi year contract (and he probably won't) I think you have to let Choo walk and hope that BH is ready for everyday CF next year.Originally posted by wildcat1973:
I was wrong on Hamilton. Kid's speed is ridiculous and game-changing. He needs to figure hitting out, but he started to come around towards the end of his AAA season, and he's obviously having some success at the MLB level so far. His base stealing is potentially legendary.
Sometimes guys just figure it out and make the leap. Hamilton appears to be doing that now.
Yep, St Louis has used 10 starting pitchers and is on their 3rd closerOriginally posted by Blue63Madison:
The injury argument doesn't hold water. The Cards and Pirates have had as many, if not more, injury issues than the Reds have. The Reds are the more talented of the three teams, yet have spent most of the season in third place.
Just another one of Baker's stupid ideas. I have never seen a team that can get into scoreless droughts like this one. They finished 3rd in the NL in runs scored and I have no idea how. It will be a very short post-season for the Reds.Originally posted by wildcat1973:
Can't wait for Ryan Ludwick in the 2 slot today!!!!
I understand the frustration. I've been with them since the early 70s, so I've been there in good times and bad, but you are just non-stop negative. You make me look like Pollyanna.Originally posted by TCPUKChamps:
This team doesn't deserve to go to the Playoffs. Selig is a joke
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But the 2nd Wild Card does exist and the Reds are a playoff team. This thread is not 100% accurate. The Reds can still go deep in the playoffs. People are acting like the season is already over. I hope the players don't feel this way.Originally posted by TCPUKChamps:
And if it wasn't for the BS 2nd Wild Card, this team would be one more loss away from not even making the playoffs.
This thread was 100% accurate and correct.
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If you "win" your division, you deserve to go to the playoffs. Stupid comment.Originally posted by PTI (pti):
In 2006, the Cardinals didn't "deserve" to go to the playoffs, either. They won the NL Central by finishing 83-78, and limped into the postseason by losing 9 of their last 12.
And you know what.....? None of that nonsense mattered in October.
The MLB postseason is just different. This isn't the NBA, where you know a week into the season who's going to bring home the tropy. Anyone can win in baseball if you just give them a chance. The "best" team rarely wins the World Series. Instead, it's typically won by whichever team gets on a roll, finds timely hits, and catches the most lucky breaks.
I see what you're saying, but the 2006 team was comprised of basically the same roster from 2004 & 2005, which each won 100 games or more. The reason for the difference in record was that the 2006 squad was decimated by injuries throughout the year. At the very end, just about everyone got healthy (Rolen was still struggling, but toughed it out) and the rest is history.Originally posted by PTI (pti):
In 2006, the Cardinals didn't "deserve" to go to the playoffs, either. They won the NL Central by finishing 83-78, and limped into the postseason by losing 9 of their last 12.
And you know what.....? None of that nonsense mattered in October.
We massively overpaid Bailey to keep him. Hamilton can't hit what he is hitting and be a lead-off hitter. Definitely should have kept Choo, but I have no problem losing Arroyo. The Reds need someone that knows how to run a winning organization. They have won ONE playoff series since their last WS in 1990.Originally posted by krazykats:
What happened last night is easily being picked apart.
1- Homer should be the starter, and if not he should be the one up and ready the second Cueto show a sign of not being ready which was somewhat early.
2- Why Billy Hamilton isnt starting in LF is a joke, Ludwick is a great hitter of the bench vs BH coming in to pinch run, especially when he cancause chaos in 3-4 ABs possibly already.
That doesnt gurantee anything different but would show Dusty is trying.
This offseason they have to figure out a way to keep Choo, and they have to let Arroyo go.