Tim couch?

[redbudman]

There are SO many Couch haters but besides his fortune and Miss fortune of being drafted #1 by the worst offensive line in history, he still managed to get a $40,000,000.00 signing bonus and those days are gone! If you take a look around all of the improvements within our facilities, they have a lot to do with Couch, more than people know! But on the topic at hand, I will say this his 2nd TD pass in Outback Bowl 17 years to the day was thrown from about the 50 and it was all he could muster to get it there! However a year later I saw him at State Tournament and his arms were HUGE!

 

[redbudman]

Add to it....Cleveland HC Palmer reportedly had him throwing 200 deep balls a day in practice. Talked about "throwing through shoulder fatigue" or some crap like that.

Consider that a NFL FB weighs about 15 oz. By comparison, a MLB ball weighs about 5 oz, plus there is an entire bullpen of pitchers to share the load, and a MLB pitching coach usually gets nervous when the pitch count (every fourth outing or so) reaches around 100. Palmer had Couch throwing 200 high velocity throws every day. I think Couch was done-in not only by the bad OL and lack of offensive weapons, but also by the asinine handling of the #1 pick by his first time Browns HC with regard to developing/protecting his arm.

By the time he got to Green Bay, his arm was so chewed up he had absolutely no zip behind the ball at all.

Palmer was an idiot! He ruined Woodson as well!

 

[CatGotMyTongue]

Any member of sports media eh refers to Couch as an NFL "bust" should be fired and shot on sight.

 

[CatGotMyTongue]

Good, not great. His numbers are somewhat inflated due to Craig Yeast and some other WR's and RB's that made him look better than he was. I'd take Woodson his final two years over Couch any day of the week.

As for his time in Cleveland...Karma has a way. He was cocky and thought his sh!t didn't stink and well....he got put in his place. He was Johnny football before it was "cool" to be Johnny football.

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