This team gets a total pass for last night
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Well, until they take a mental holiday against an SEC opponent, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. I’ll also give them a pass since this game was sandwiched between Gonzaga and Louisville and playing without PG1 and PG2. I don’t see this team losing focus against big time opponents.
Perry was the 1st one in not Noah
Perry has a very long way to go, as does Chandler
Both were out classed by Colgate
Exciting road environment at Clemson, then to one of the best regular season games in the last 10 years against Gonzaga, then the Colgate sandwiched between all of that and the Louisville game coming up on Saturday - this was a tough game to really, truly get excited for (as players) - it just is what it is.
I bet they come out and blast Louisville. This was almost predictable with PG 1 and 2 out after a thrilling win in Seattle. Lazy, sleepy, Wednesday night game in Rupp, three days before playing your arch rival.
Meh. They’ll be fine.
Meh. They’ll be fine.
But they didn’t lose.
It was a subpar mideweek December cupcake game. We have these nearly every year no matter who is coaching. Our 1993 team only beat EKU by 9 at Rupp (sandwiched between a win over #5 Georgia Tech and a game at No. 9 Louisville). Our 1996 team only beat Wisconsin Green-Bay by 12 and barely scored 70 (sandwiched between a win against Indiana and a game against Marbury and 16th ranked Georgia Tech). More recently our 2012 team only beat Old Dominion by 10 in a game we trailed by double digits early.
My point is these games happen and are usually not a big deal at all. Getting out with the W is all that matters.
Wonky shut the hell up. You’re exactly like the one group who wants to act like the moral high ground police because people had issues with last night. But then when you all say stuff it’s perfectly fine. And yes cooper Flagg would help Kentucky a lot considering he is one of the better players in the sport, so yeah that’s not the burn you think it is. Kentucky has played like shit for 3 weeks now, minus one half, but oh we can’t say that because wonky and 5 others don’t like when you say the truth. I have never questioned popes coaching, that’s rock solid, it’s always been if the players are good enough, and there is a sample size to suggest that might be an issue. And lastly congratulations your only the 50,000th person to point my username on here man, you must be really good at problem solving.
So saying we lacked energy in defense is now whining? lol ok.
Agree, but some on here act like saying this is going over a line. It’s not the death of the team, but Kentucky certainly needs to start playing better than what they have been. Which I certainly think they will.
Man you and I are fighting losing battles on here. I said they haven’t been good for a couple of weeks and were bad, but will get better, and you said they lacked energy and hope it gets better because it going to have to. People still get upset. If Kentucky fans didn’t have standards and expectations, then what exactly are we then? I still find it hilarious how I’ve said multiple times on here, I’m posting shit to stir things up because I know I can make multiple people mad, but the same ones fall for it everytime, and look like pricks everytime.
In the end they won this game would have been a loss under Cal, remember UofE.
Saturday they have to. Louisville is desperate and plays really hard. The energy will have to be matched, which I think they will do.
We haven't blown out a power 4 or power 5 (idk what is a power conference anymore) team yet. Granted UL is not as good as the other 3 and this one's at Rupp.
I can see a 10 to 12 point win.
The effort was very unexpected for sure and the nonchalant play was a little disappointing, this is is uk and not the programs they’re coming from so no days off. We are going to get everyone’s best shot so I was a little disappointed in seeing the effort and the lack of awareness, 17-0 should have been pressed to a 25 point lead at half. Yes he subbed, but those guys are expected to give max effort especially if to they’re wanting to get more minutes.
We won. As has already been pointed out, this was sandwiched between a full travel week going to Clemson and then all the way to Seattle for a late night Saturday game, down two point guards, a big Saturday coming up with a rivalry game. The excitement of playing the cream puffs on the schedule goes away after the first three games. This was a trap game no matter how you look at it and we pulled it out. Someone already posted it bit earlier but I remember that 1992-93 game against EKU sandwiched between big games and we had to have Mashburn score a career high 38 points to win by single digits.
It’s got nothing to do with moral high ground. It has to do with your lack of credibility. For a solid month before the Duke game you probably made 20-30 posts saying that we just couldn’t beat them. Over and over again, you said Duke will have the best player on the floor and in college basketball, that is the difference. That we had no chance of winning the game and you’d be happy if we were just competitive. And this wasn’t some sort of reverse jinx attempt — you truly believed we had zero shot because of one overhyped 17 year old kid. Then we not only won, but won by absolutely flustering said kid the last two possessions. So I just think it’s funny you are right back to your default setting which is negativity and skepticism. You think you’re being rational but here’s some ACTUAL rationality for you: We’re missing both our point guards. But go on biting your nails some more man.
And do you and others ever pay attention where I say that I’m trying to get people worked up, that’s my goal because I know I can. Some of you are easy to get going on here. So no a lot of these takes( I guess thats what you can call them) are pure attempts to get the jerkoffs( not you) who take themselves to seriously on here upset. The duke stuff is the perfect example, I knew I could get a portion very upset by spewing the media narrative all week leading up to the game, and guess what it worked, s portion of you showed your true colors in how you interacted with my bait posts. The reality is that I’m somewhere in the middle when it comes to Kentucky. It’s not the end of the world with some of the issues, but they certainly need to fix the effort some. Our coach is good and will put them in the best position to do so. Cooper Flagg is good, I will admit I don’t get the hate have for the kid I’m here, but that’s not the point. I knew he would be a sore topic in the lead up to that game, and it clearly works.
last nights team under Cal might have lost, Cal would send Orlando Antigua out to meet the press afterwards, and then we'd hear about a player who threatened to quit at halftime and another player who was sick but no one knew.
So you're either a horrible fan who out right predicted we would lose to Duke, while insulting every fan who disagreed with you, or you are just a troll who baits people. I specifically remember you coming out after the Duke game admitting that you were wrong and that you would NEVER doubt Pope again. No one should take anything you post seriously.
I know and it’s a fair point. I made it a bit earlier.
But since you seem to be challenging it, is there something unfair about my statement?
I agree in general with what you're saying. My point is that in the case of last night's game, the lack of productivity and energy is understandable. And we still won the game. The fact that we have not yet played to our full potential and are sitting on 9-1 with 2 top 5 victories says something about the grit of this team and our coach. I'm over last night, our roster is depleted and the big game is Saturday.
Not really. But it 'seems' unfair unless you include the caveat. Being low on energy and playing out of sorts is a normal result when your lineup gets shaken up and you just had a massive emotional victory just a few nights before. The fact that we came away with a comfortable win despite that ADVERSITY says a lot about the team POSITIVELY and IMHO should be more of a celebration than a lament.
And why do you think I would do that Mr music? And you sure seem to because again you respond to the stuff I’m posting. And I have never gone at pope on here. Idk why people continue to bring that up, because I don’t. Pope is great, and breathe of fresh air for sure. And to answer the question yes I’m trolling, because the group your in makes it to easy to do so. The responses you all come up is hilarious, I also find it funny how you all act like you’re any different than the ones who are negative. It’s the same thing, just one side is being hypocritical about what they are doing on here, and the other isn’t.
Agree, Kentucky is fine, they just need butler back, and for the effort to be better.
Alright, so you're nothing more than a troll. Got it. Just wanted you to admit it so folks will stop wasting time and space engaging with you. I know I won't be anymore.
Cool, my feelings aren’t hurt. You were very easy to make mad, is are some of the others.
We have had a few other recent flat moments which have been as long as entire halves so there is room for reasonable criticism.
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Manning, come on now.
If you don't think fatigue plays any part in defensive intensity that tells me you probably never played the game.
We brag about how our bench wore down Duke when they faded down the stretch from fatigue.
But, when we are playing guys put of position and too many minutes because of an injury problem with two point guards, then there is no excuse for allowing an uncontested layup??
Come on. Do better.
Do better? Come on. Even Pope was not happy with the effort at times, that was clear from his comment "got love we didn't deserve".
No, there is no excuse; especially not when you have a guy like Kerr who broke his damn foot and still got back to challenge a shot. THAT is what Kentucky basketball is about. Not allowing a layup line. Not saying go hard foul the guy, but don't stand there and watch it either.
I've done PLENTY of hard physical labor in my life man. Guess what didn't matter? If I was tired. Work still had to get done. I'm not going to specifically crap on any one player- I don't do that very often. But last night's defensive effort was not good. And claiming otherwise is disingenuous.
We got up 17, then quit, then went "Oh we need to actually try because these dudes came to win" and make no mistake. Colgate cut that to like 8 with a couple of minutes left and were very much still trying to win that game.
I love our dudes, but that's not the first time we saw some lazy passing. It's gonna really bite us in the ass in SEC play if it continues.
Come out on Saturday like we're 0-9 and beat the tar out of UofL. That's what I want to see. We've yet to put a true hurting on a P5 team. Need to do that Saturday. If freaking Creighton can beat KU by 13, we should be able to torch UofL.
Hang in there….your points are logical and fair! We are a fairly thin team and we have 3 elite defensive players (Butler, Oweh, Williams) and everybody else is bad to average on defense. The only thing that Pope does that I’m not crazy about are his rotations. When he puts a rotation out that doesn’t have ANY of those defensive players in it we not surprisingly can’t get any stops and the energy just drains. I wish he wouldn’t EVER sub out Butler and Oweh at the same time but he does it every game. He’s a brilliant coach but I struggle with his substitution pattern’s this year.
I don't think anyone was happy with their effort last night, including CMP.
But, to say fatigue has no correlation to effort is just bogus. Especially in sports.
It did, but we can’t also act like Kentucky wasn’t playing like they were to cool for school at times either.
Exactly right. Trying to say it was just last night is false. The 1st half of Gonzaga was the same way, and the effort and focus was lacking early on against WKU and Jackson St. Nothing wrong with pointing that out and seeing how that can cost the team down the road. Hopefully it’s figured out sooner rather than later.
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