This Sums Up How Untouchable UNC is to the NCAA...

[MWes11]

https://www.dukebasketballreport.co...eating-nccu-makes-a-mistake-and-gets-hammered

So just to be clear about this...UNC cheats for nearly 20 years, screws hundreds of athletes out of a potentially life-changing education, is put on probation by the accreditation agency ...and the NCAA can do nothing.

However, NCCU makes some unintentional mistakes, some players played while ineligible and the school self-reported...and gets hammered.

In Central’s case, 58 games were forfeited between baseball, football and basketball, the school is on probation for two years and has to pay $5,000 dollars.

So here’s a question: if Central’s athletes were ineligible and events had to be forfeited, and UNC played with athletes who were enrolled in frankly fraudulent classes, why are their competitions still valid?

Jerry Tarkanian’s joke still stands: the NCAA was so mad at UNC they gave Central two years of probation.

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite]

Nccu didn't have 5 mil to fight it

 

[gossie21]

NCCU admitted they made a mistake. UNC threw mountains of cash at PR firms, killed off scape goats and rogues, buried their head in the sand, and denied that they did anything wrong.

You should never admit a mistake to the NCAA. Never.

 

[Smashcat]

and the NCAA can do nothing.

The NCAA 'could have' done plenty.

 

[kb22stang]

https://www.dukebasketballreport.co...eating-nccu-makes-a-mistake-and-gets-hammered

So just to be clear about this...UNC cheats for nearly 20 years, screws hundreds of athletes out of a potentially life-changing education, is put on probation by the accreditation agency ...and the NCAA can do nothing.

However, NCCU makes some unintentional mistakes, some players played while ineligible and the school self-reported...and gets hammered.

In Central’s case, 58 games were forfeited between baseball, football and basketball, the school is on probation for two years and has to pay $5,000 dollars.

So here’s a question: if Central’s athletes were ineligible and events had to be forfeited, and UNC played with athletes who were enrolled in frankly fraudulent classes, why are their competitions still valid?

Jerry Tarkanian’s joke still stands: the NCAA was so mad at UNC they gave Central two years of probation.

It's really not difficult to understand. The NCAA claimed that policing the difficulty of their classes so the players were eligible.

Right or wrong that is the difference

 

[Ryan Lemonds Diary]

It's really not difficult to understand. The NCAA claimed that policing the difficulty of their classes so the players were eligible.

Right or wrong that is the difference

What about the illegal benefits in the form of rental cars and the $1,000 dental appliances the athletes were given by boosters that the NCAA failed to include in their final report? That alone should have been enough to have to forfeit some games.

 

[the stat man]

20 million dollars gets you a lot of forgiveness from the NCAA , and that’s most likely just the tip of the iceberg !!

 

[~Keyser Soze~]

@jeffbuckies @Whoppercat Thoughts.

 

[~Keyser Soze~]

No program going forward should ever self report anything to the NCAA. UNC never did, well until they self reported their womens basketball and mens soccer programs as a stall tactic and even they got off with no punishment.

 

[Smashcat]

20 million dollars gets you a lot of forgiveness from the NCAA , and that’s most likely just the tip of the iceberg !!

Yep.

 

[UKRuppster]

It's okay. Just do like I do and do three things.

1) Know that "The Carolina Way", Dean Smith and Roy Williams are three of the biggest frauds in college basketball history
2) Do what the NCAA won't do and disregard their tainted titles in 1993, 2005 and 2009 when they were using ineligible players.
3) Because they should have been ineligible for the 2017 NCAA Tournament, do with that "championship" what you will (I choose to disregard it as well).

When you do like I do, you consider 1982 their last legit national championship. In 1982, "Eye of the Tiger" was released, E.T. was released, Joe Montana won the first of his four Super Bowl titles and Michael Jackson's "Thriller" was released. Additionally, here is what it cost to buy gas, car and a TV in 1982:

http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1982.html

 

[uky8unc5]

It's really not difficult to understand. The NCAA claimed that policing the difficulty of their classes so the players were eligible.

Right or wrong that is the difference

UH...WHAT ABOUT THIS (which was part of the NCAA's evidence)

http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/...ll-star-rashad-mccants-says-took-sham-classes

Rashad McCants, the second-leading scorer on the North Carolina basketball team that won the 2004-05 national title, told ESPN's "Outside the Lines" that tutors wrote his term papers, he rarely went to class for about half his time at UNC, and he remained able to play largely because he took bogus classes designed to keep athletes academically eligible.

McCants told "Outside the Lines" that he could have been academically ineligible to play during the championship season had he not been provided the assistance. Further, he said head basketball coach Roy Williams knew about the "paper class" system at UNC. The so-called paper classes didn't require students to go to class; rather, students were required to submit only one term paper to receive a grade.

McCants also told "Outside the Lines" that he even made the dean's list in the spring of 2005 despite not attending any of his four classes for which he received straight-A grades. He said advisers and tutors who worked with the basketball program steered him to take the paper classes within the African-American Studies program.

 

[uky8unc5]

NCCU is a historically Black University.
Good School that provided a needed service in the embarrassing days of segregation. And they still serve a noble cause.

To their credit, NCCU has integrity. So they got busted. Where is the outrage?

 

[YouKay]

UH...WHAT ABOUT THIS (which was part of the NCAA's evidence)

http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/...ll-star-rashad-mccants-says-took-sham-classes

Rashad McCants, the second-leading scorer on the North Carolina basketball team that won the 2004-05 national title, told ESPN's "Outside the Lines" that tutors wrote his term papers, he rarely went to class for about half his time at UNC, and he remained able to play largely because he took bogus classes designed to keep athletes academically eligible.

McCants told "Outside the Lines" that he could have been academically ineligible to play during the championship season had he not been provided the assistance. Further, he said head basketball coach Roy Williams knew about the "paper class" system at UNC. The so-called paper classes didn't require students to go to class; rather, students were required to submit only one term paper to receive a grade.

McCants also told "Outside the Lines" that he even made the dean's list in the spring of 2005 despite not attending any of his four classes for which he received straight-A grades. He said advisers and tutors who worked with the basketball program steered him to take the paper classes within the African-American Studies program.

UNC denied everything McCants said.

 

[uky8unc5]

UNC denied everything McCants said.

He was never interviewed by the NCAA. And there was a ton of anecdotal evidence that he was telling the truth. The Raleigh News and Observer published and documented it all...and yet the NCAA never took a look.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

NCAA had more than enough to bury UNC. They simply chose not to.

 

[~Keyser Soze~]

Half of Duke's basketball team takes classes at NCCU, they should've told the NCAA and they would've gotten off.

 

[SemperFiCat]

UNCheat got lucky and found a loophole. Doesn't mean they didn't knowingly let athletes cheat for decades. They absolutely cheated. ...and that's the real Carolina Way.

 

[~Keyser Soze~]

UNCheat got lucky and found a loophole. Doesn't mean they didn't knowingly let athletes cheat for decades. They absolutely cheated. ...and that's the real Carolina Way.

There's no loophole for playing academically ineligible players. That's just a talking point being sold by UNC and the media, don't buy it.

 

[littlecreek]

If someone else ends up being NCAA president is it possible this issue could get revisited? Maybe an investigation into something else that could connect to this? Just wondering.

 

[~Keyser Soze~]

If someone else ends up being NCAA president is it possible this issue could get revisited? Maybe an investigation into something else that could connect to this? Just wondering.

Emmert didnt have anything to do with the UNC case, SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey led the committee that let them off.

 

[SemperFiCat]

There's no loophole for playing academically ineligible players. That's just a talking point being sold by UNC and the media, don't buy it.

The loophole was because the fake classes were offered to non athletes as well. That's essentially how they got off.

 

[~Keyser Soze~]

The loophole was because the fake classes were offered to non athletes as well. That's essentially how they got off.

They still had unauthorized grade changes to keep athletes eligible and tutors writing papers for athletes. There's no loophole for that.

 

[SemperFiCat]

They still had unauthorized grade changes to keep athletes eligible and tutors writing papers for athletes. There's no loophole for that.

I completely agree. Just saying the non athletes aspect is what saved them. They were never going to get in trouble either way though.

 

[Creed Bratton]

The NCAA is awful...that is all.

 

[Blueisbest]

The double standard in the NCAA is egregious and needs to end. Schools like UNCheats , Duke and Kansas are allowed to follow a totally different rule book than all the other schools under the NCAA's umbrella. They are able to get away with more violations than anybody and don't have to worry that they will ultimately have to suffer from these transgressions.

Larger schools like Kentucky and even all the way down to smaller institutions like NCCU can and do feel the wrath of the NCAA if they even so much as accidentally step over the lines of what is and isn't allowed by the NCAA. It's a double standard that should never be allowed to happen.

 

[UKat51]

Nccu didn't have 5 mil to fight it

Carolina spent $16 million fighting the NCAA

 

[saxonburgcat]

If someone else ends up being NCAA president is it possible this issue could get revisited? Maybe an investigation into something else that could connect to this? Just wondering.

Nope. It is over. UNC is OJ.

 

[BourbonBalz]

The loophole was because the fake classes were offered to non athletes as well. That's essentially how they got off.

Of course they were. Allowing some non-athletes to enroll in the fake classes was nothing more than a way to keep it from looking so obvious. In other words, a cover-up. What possible rationale would any university have for allowing non-athlete students to enroll in fake classes? None, other than to cover up the real violation. Regardless, some of UNCheat's players should've been ineligible to play. Period.

 

[FactCheckerUSA]

UH...WHAT ABOUT THIS (which was part of the NCAA's evidence)

http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/...ll-star-rashad-mccants-says-took-sham-classes

Rashad McCants, the second-leading scorer on the North Carolina basketball team that won the 2004-05 national title, told ESPN's "Outside the Lines" that tutors wrote his term papers, he rarely went to class for about half his time at UNC, and he remained able to play largely because he took bogus classes designed to keep athletes academically eligible.

McCants told "Outside the Lines" that he could have been academically ineligible to play during the championship season had he not been provided the assistance. Further, he said head basketball coach Roy Williams knew about the "paper class" system at UNC. The so-called paper classes didn't require students to go to class; rather, students were required to submit only one term paper to receive a grade.

McCants also told "Outside the Lines" that he even made the dean's list in the spring of 2005 despite not attending any of his four classes for which he received straight-A grades. He said advisers and tutors who worked with the basketball program steered him to take the paper classes within the African-American Studies program.

McCants lied repeatedly to the press, and then refused to cooperate with the NCAA investigation.

 

[FactCheckerUSA]

Nope. It is over. UNC is OJ.

I hope I never become delusional enough to compare a college sports scandal to a double-homicide.

 

[uky8unc5]

McCants lied repeatedly to the press, and then refused to cooperate with the NCAA investigation.

Only a UNC fan would characterize McCants this way.
Check the Facts...

 

[Midway Cat]

I hope I never become delusional enough to compare a college sports scandal to a double-homicide.

Delusional?

You're well aware that he wasn't comparing UNC's cheating to murder. He's clearly talking about the fact that both cases are over and no one was punished for obvious rules or legal violations.

Please spare us the deliberately obtuse routine. TIA.

 

[Ineverplayedthegame]

Fellas, all I got is be happy that the dumpster fire known as U6 continues to burn.

 

[FactCheckerUSA]

Only a UNC fan would characterize McCants this way.
Check the Facts...

What is wrong with you? I give you facts and you accuse me of being a UNC fan?

McCants lied repeatedly to the press and on Outside the Lines. That's why he refused to cooperate with the NCAA investigation. The NCAA collected evidence that disproved many of McCants' claims, and McCants didn't want to be confronted with that. So he just flat out refused to be part of the NCAA investigation.

Instead of insulting UK fans who actually know the facts, maybe you should start insulting the former UNC player who got your hopes up and then crushed them by refusing to testify.

 

[UKRuppster]

Only a UNC fan would characterize McCants this way.

Don't debate with tar hole trash. They drag you down to their level of stupidity and delusion, then beat you with experience. The even sadder part about tar hole trash is once you talk to one of their meathead fans, you've talked to 99 percent of them. You may find 1 or 2 that aren't so bad, but they're far for the exception than the norm.

 

[FactCheckerUSA]

Delusional?

.

Yes, anyone who uses the OJ comparison is a delusional moron.

OJ got away with murder. Two people lost their lives. Nothing about the corrupt NCAA sports machine is comparable to murder. Using the OJ comparison is quite simply indefensible.

 

[uky8unc5]

Don't debate with tar hole trash. They drag you down to their level of stupidity and delusion, then beat you with experience. The even sadder part about tar hole trash is once you talk to one of their meathead fans, you've talked to 99 percent of them. You may find 1 or 2 that aren't so bad, but they're far for the exception than the norm.

I live in N.C. so I know their idiocy.
Factchecker offered no facts. Why? He made it up.
I know Dan the reporter for Raleigh News Observer who hammered UNC for 4 years.
F.C. is lint on my sleeve.

 

[bigblue7609]

It has probably already been discussed but I was watching Vince Carter's documentary on Netflix and when he graduated, guess what he majored in? African-American studies.

 

[Poetax]

The loophole was because the fake classes were offered to non athletes as well. That's essentially how they got off.

So thousands of supposingly unc grads are living a LIE.