This is one of the reasons I can't stand Mitch!

[kywildcat41035]

He's just so oblivious to what is going on. I just wish he would retire and we would get an athletic director in there that would have a set!

Mitch Barnhart Breaks Kentucky Football Silence with Poorly Used Three-Word Phrase

Mitch Barnhart is telling Kentucky football fans who are eager for change to practice patience with head coach Mark Stoops.

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[truebluewildcat]

MB isn’t the reason CMS is still around.

The folks who don’t like change and love barely .500 banjo bourbon ball bowls are.

The “well uk football was never good…CMS at least got us to average…” crowd.

If the outrage and threat to funding/tickets/attendance was real enough Stoops would be gone.

Every time Stoops sniffed a bowl and rumors started that every program was beating down the door for him the masses clamored for big extensions.

Kind of like Cal. Most folks bitched at the end but they were all for those big extensions during the good times. Last year it was “Fire Cal…Mitch is an idiot for the contract…”

8-10 years ago it was “Mitch better not let Cal go to Cleveland, LA, etc…sign him to the biggest best deal and lifetime contract…”

 

[K_TIME]

MB isn’t the reason CMS is still around.

The folks who don’t like change and love barely .500 banjo bourbon ball bowls are.

The “well uk football was never good…CMS at least got us to average…” crowd.

If the outrage and threat to funding/tickets/attendance was real enough Stoops would be gone.

Every time Stoops sniffed a bowl and rumors started that every program was beating down the door for him the masses clamored for big extensions.

Kind of like Cal. Most folks bitched at the end but they were all for those big extensions during the good times. Last year it was “Fire Cal…Mitch is an idiot for the contract…”

8-10 years ago it was “Mitch better not let Cal go to Cleveland, LA, etc…sign him to the biggest best deal and lifetime contract…”

I think you are missing a huge perspective.....Mitch is a ton of why Stoops is solidly still here

1. It was Mitch that had a 1 year auto extension when Stoops would win 6 games....not fans
2. Mitch has a history of throwing around Monopoly money to coaches a UK.
3. Even saying "one year blip"...so what were back to back 7 - 6 seasons before the disaster 4-8 season?

 

[cat_in_the_hat]

He's just so oblivious to what is going on. I just wish he would retire and we would get an athletic director in there that would have a set!

Mitch Barnhart Breaks Kentucky Football Silence with Poorly Used Three-Word Phrase

Mitch Barnhart is telling Kentucky football fans who are eager for change to practice patience with head coach Mark Stoops.

www.on3.com

I don't understand your hatred for these comments. To expect a football coach to never have a subpar year UK, when virtually every season at UK has been subpar, doesn't make lot of sense. Every coach will have ups and down years and that's especially true here. Like MB says, if it continues to be mediocre by UK's standards, then something has to change. Otherwise, we've had best football in my 62 living.

 

[truebluewildcat]

I think you are missing a huge perspective.....Mitch is a ton of why Stoops is solidly still here

1. It was Mitch that had a 1 year auto extension when Stoops would win 6 games....not fans
2. Mitch has a history of throwing around Monopoly money to coaches a UK.
3. Even saying "one year blip"...so what were back to back 7 - 6 seasons before the disaster 4-8 season?

Why do you think that “auto-extension” is even a thing?

Because 6-6 is the magic number for “football” fans around here to lose their damn minds, all logic, and reason.

“Just get us to a bowl”

That was/is the standard. MB knows it. If he jeopardizes it by letting said average coach explore even the slightest bit of attention he’s on the hot seat.

He errored on the side of stability. I can’t say I totally disagree.

I don’t disagree that there’s been some questionable contact decisions. I’m not saying MB bats a 1000. Nobody does.

However it’s real easy to look back and make a call. Hind sight is 20/20.

Big contracts and extensions were a fad for a while. Everyone was doing it. It was good for recruiting, moral, stability, generated some headlines…kind of a status symbol.

I think that era has passed as things change more and more in the new age.

MB has probably learned like we all should have as well. I don’t see him signing big block buster extensions anymore. The downside risk of being stuck in an expensive toxic situation where the coach doesn’t budge is greater than the return of keeping him around.

We can find a coach who can win a title in basketball here. We can also find a coach who can white knuckle out a 6-7 win season.

So remember all this whining about Cal and Stoops the past few seasons when Pope is not given a block buster deal after a run. Remember all these discussions if (big if) CMS wins 7-8 games and MB doesn’t roll out the red carpet. Or doesn’t sign CMS’ replacement to a big whopper.

 

[Deeeefense]

No sense of urgency, instead trying to put lipstick on a pig and convince everyone to lower their expectations.
If these comments were made at Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, Auburn, any other SEC team, the fans would be calling for his head.

If Kentucky's brain trust isn't interested in being serious about football, football fans will quit being serious about supporting it.

 

[K_TIME]

Why do you think that “auto-extension” is even a thing?

Because 6-6 is the magic number for “football” fans around here to lose their damn minds, all logic, and reason.

“Just get us to a bowl”

That was/is the standard. MB knows it. If he jeopardizes it by letting said average coach explore even the slightest bit of attention he’s on the hot seat.

He errored on the side of stability. I can’t say I totally disagree.

I don’t disagree that there’s been some questionable contact decisions. I’m not saying MB bats a 1000. Nobody does.

However it’s real easy to look back and make a call. Hind sight is 20/20.

Big contracts and extensions were a fad for a while. Everyone was doing it. It was good for recruiting, moral, stability, generated some headlines…kind of a status symbol.

I think that era has passed as things change more and more in the new age.

MB has probably learned like we all should have as well. I don’t see him signing big block buster extensions anymore. The downside risk of being stuck in an expensive toxic situation where the coach doesn’t budge is greater than the return of keeping him around.

We can find a coach who can win a title in basketball here. We can also find a coach who can white knuckle out a 6-7 win season.

So remember all this whining about Cal and Stoops the past few seasons when Pope is not given a block buster deal after a run. Remember all these discussions if (big if) CMS wins 7-8 games and MB doesn’t roll out the red carpet. Or doesn’t sign CMS’ replacement to a big whopper.

To go back to your original comment....

"MB isn’t the reason CMS is still around.

The folks who don’t like change and love barely .500 banjo bourbon ball bowls are."

Mitch is a huge reason why Stoops is still around after 2 7-6 season, and then this 4-8 disaster of a season. So giving our auto-extensions for 6 win season (especially when you play 3 OOC scrubs, UL had been down, Vandy is down....so all UK had to do was scrape out the USC/Mizzou games and boom...we're re-upping Stoops year over year).

Mitch didn't learn from the Cal debacle of a contract....he gave one to Stoops a handful of years later.....

Finally, what exactly has Pope done "after a run"....what run has Pope gone on? Beating Duke and Zags?

Don't blame fans....the football program has been all but fan backed....Stoops/Mitch got us in this situation.