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Cal suffers from some type of disfunction ... he's just not right. He says he loves the fans, but his actions and behavior suggest something different. I can't help but believe he is very vindictive, at heart. If you look at his past, nothing much has changed. He doesn't play well with others ... especially if you disagree with him.Between this
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It's such a waste right now, it's actually a tragedy.
Cal's just broken, and I don't think he can be fixed. It's sad considering it's our current reality.
What’s going to be even better is when Z leaves for the draft, and next year performs really well in G league action or possibly in the league itself. Of course some minions here will state that he just wasn’t ready to contribute while here but magically becomes a better player within months after leaving here.
I don't quite understand. I know Big Z made quite the splash. But he has looked lost and very nonchalant since that UGA game. Ugo was pretty darn good when given real minutes and played defense. People have been clamoring for the best players to play the most minutes. Ugo is that guy at the 5. It's easy to see.
The reality of real coaching in the League? This has been a question for me for several years. Our guys only begin to flourish once they're in the League. If this is indeed true ... what the hell is Cal's true purpose at UK?
I think Ugo has earned his minutes but Z and Bradshaw should get equal clock until one shows he's better; then sit the other one. So far, it does appear that Z is not getting a fair shot. The look on his face at times makes me think he feels the same way.
I mean, that happens everywhere. The reason for that is an athlete isn't going to reach his athletic prime from age 18-20. Tyrese Haliburton is a great example. Not everyone is Carmelo Anthony. The vast majority reach their potential at a later age.
That’s understandable to some degree as the players are leaving here so young while still growing and developing in their games. Bigger issue is Cal’s misuse of players while they are here playing them out of position, forcing bigs to be back to the basket players when that’s not their strong suit, giving players more minutes than they deserve when others are better, etc. We have seen all 3 play out this year and it’s been an issue most/if not all of his tenure here.
Kinda hard to tell when he isn't getting even 10 minutes per game.
It was very easy to see that Ugo was the guy to roll with at the 5 last game. He's our number one option at center for sure. I'm all for Z coming in, but as I said before, in his minutes since the UGA game he has looked lost and nonchalant. It only took a few minutes for Ugo to make a difference, so he got most of the minutes deservedly so.
Let Z play the 4 and give Mitchell a rest- Mitchell has not been playing well lately
What? Change something? Don't say such things; Cal's head may explode!
Z and Ugo aren't the same type of player. They theoretically shouldn't be taking a lot of each other's min. The situation should dictate who is getting more min that particular night. Fact is, we don't really know what we have with Z because Cal won't let him play. Makes zero sense, particularly when Cal has given so many underachievers plenty of min, even after we knew they didn't have it. Play the kid, Cal, and let's find out.
Since the guards don't play defense, Ugo is the best and last line of defense. He takes pride in defense and knows his role. Z looks lost and Bradshaw makes too many stupid fouls. If you don’t like making in-game adjustments, then Ugonna is the perfect option at the 5. He's extremely raw on offense, but you know what you are getting from him and he doesn't take any plays off. The guy nearly had a triple double the other night.
The same people bitching about Z not getting enough minutes will say Cal was stupid for not playing Ugo when Z costs us a game.
compulsive non truth teller............typical used car salesman, tell 'em what they want to hear, even thou it is fiction
novel idea would be to let Z play thru a mistake or two like Edwards, DJ and all of the other 5 star kids get too.
maybe if the kid new he wasn't going to be yanked for a mistake, or missing a shot, he might get a little confidence & play more relaxed & better
Excet for they aren't even the same type of player. One is a stretch four, and the other a classic five. They shouldn't be eating each other's min. Their play should be dictated by matchups. Bottom line is, Z needs more min to settle in and we can see what caliber player he actually is. So, if they do, they'd be wrong.
Just wanting him to be a stretch 4 doesn't make him one. He will get eaten alive if he has to guard a 4. He is a center.
Now, could be maybe cover for a brief period in a pinch, possibly! But trying to make him a reliable 4 in February is not going to happen.
The coaches also see him a lot more than you or I. They know far more what he is capable of. Until the UGA, pretty much everyone who had watched him mentioned he was behind and more of a project. There is probably a lot of truth to that.
Determining he should be the backup 4 when he has never played that spot and has only played 20 min all year probably isn't the best use of logic.
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My man is obsessed. Truthfully you got a little overzealous after the Georgia game. You had said that the college game looked easy to him and said he would drop 40 in the next game. So naturally that’s a little embarrassing. So I get why you keep making Z threads.
Seriously though I do wish he would get more run. I’m sure he could produce with more mins. I imagine cal sees him as doing one thing well and two things poorly. He won’t play kids with a narrow skillset. So he’s basically Kyle Witcher. If he can just get better in one more area then maybe we will get our wish. Or maybe cal just hates Matt Damon. Idk
Seriously though I do wish he would get more run. I’m sure he could produce with more mins. I imagine cal sees him as doing one thing well and two things poorly. He won’t play kids with a narrow skillset. So he’s basically Kyle Witcher. If he can just get better in one more area then maybe we will get our wish. Or maybe cal just hates Matt Damon. Idk
They should have let Jon Chaney kick his ass - would have probably improved his overall outlook on life.
LOL ... by the look on Cal's face, Chaney clearly intended to do just that. Either way, Chaney had had enough of Cal's lip.
I think so e of what's going on is that Cal absolutely does not know how to build up players. He tears them down beyond repair.
I mean, I have no knowledge of how players feel about Cal, but the vast majority of the ones that move on from the program and have success speak very highly of how he prepared them for the next stages of life. Not playing Big Z when it clearly looked like he wasn't the best option, is not my definition of tearing him down beyond repair. Again, people have been clamoring for Cal to play the best players... And Ugo was certainly that guy Wednesday night.
At USC - 3 points/2 rebounds/2 blocks in 10 minutes.
2 games since - 4 rebounds in only 9 minutes of action.
What do you want him to do? Rebound? Block shots? Hit an open jumper if he ever gets one?
He should get more run. Can easily be beside UGO, since Z is basically a wing who can clearly stretch the floor.
Yeah, he’s better now. Like basically every player ever who stayed healthy got better.
Point was he was very productive in college. I don’t think many would complain about having a player like Haliburton stay two years at his level of production. Roughly equivalent to a PJ Washington.
Agree completely. Mitchell struggled big time against Florida on offense, perhaps Z would have hit a couple.
Agreed. And that was basically my original point. People say all the time this or that UK player is better now in the pros than here at Kentucky. Yes, they are! Just like every other player that has has success in the league!
Gotcha. I think most people are more frustrated with the Hamidou Diallo types, who leave as second round picks after doing little at Kentucky. But some are just unreasonable.
I get it. And no one expected the meteoric rise of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, for example. Think you've hit the nail on the head with the "some are just unreasonable"... That statement goes a long way round these parts. Mannnnnn, let's just get us a win today.
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