The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)

[Farmy75]

If you watched only the war video, you might be led to believe Ukraine was winning this war. Distributions of these videos is large spread.

If you’re really interested in following front line updates follow the OSINT guys, then pay attention to the ones that shit post updates trying to get clicks for the algo payouts.

A good website to follow developments on frontlines is
Geo confirmed Ukraine.
Uses OSINT fans to place where on the map the video was.

 

[Spica Orbit]

Infographic: Who Sells the Most Weapons?

This chart shows the share of global exports of major conventional weapons systems and components.

www.statista.com

 

[Farmy75]

 

[Farmy75]

Infographic: Who Sells the Most Weapons?

This chart shows the share of global exports of major conventional weapons systems and components.

www.statista.com

Turns out watching Bradley’s take hits and the entire crew survive vs the Soviet tin cans cooking everyone in them has been a boon for global interest in US weapons systems.

No if we go isolationist that momentum will be stalled as we’re already seeing momentum towards.

 

[vhcat70]

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Who cares? I mean Trump says he wants to stop the killing, period. Nothing else matters. Of course, that doesn't stop the killing from restarting the next day.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Who cares? I mean Trump says he wants to stop the killing, period. Nothing else matters. Of course, that doesn't stop the killing from restarting the next day.

VHCat mentioned Trump. Everyone drink!!

 

[WayneDougan]

VHCat mentioned Trump. Everyone drink!!

If you had a drink every time VHCat and his ilk's approach to this war got a young soldier killed you'd be drunk in an hour.

 

[Farmy75]

 

[Farmy75]

If you had a drink every time VHCat and his ilk's approach to this war got a young soldier killed you'd be drunk in an hour.

Just sharing for those that enjoy reading updates about the Ukraine war.

The institute for study of war has consistently been non reactionary and cautious surrounding their updates, seeking confirmation from multiple sources before posting about breakthroughs, war crimes, daily developments.

If anyone reading is interested in actual developments in the war they’re a great source to utilize.

 

[Farmy75]

If you watched only the war video, you might be led to believe Ukraine was winning this war. Distributions of these videos is large spread.

It would take awhile, but they would eventually get there

 

[Farmy75]

 

[Caveman Catfan]

It would take awhile, but they would eventually get there

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Yeah, right. I think you need to go back and take some math classes.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Look at this shit

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Propaganda

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Really? He puts out Russian propaganda. He is Russian and he loves the Kremlin.

 

[HeismaNole]

Really? He puts out Russian propaganda. He is Russian and he loves the Kremlin.

And you put out Ukranian propaganda and love Ukraine.

 

[JumperJack]

It would take awhile, but they would eventually get there

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So we need to fund Ukraine for 83 years?

What exactly is the point of all of your links? Ukraine can’t and won’t win their territory back. All decision making flows from this fact.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

And you put out Ukranian propaganda and love Ukraine.

Really? Show evidence of either. I suspect you know you're lying.

 

[SDC888]

Really? Show evidence of either. I suspect you know you're lying.

Your fundamental problem is that you care not for veracity, but who says it.

If a source tells you something you want to hear, and you deem them credible, then ipso facto it must true. If the converse, if it's something you don't want to hear, that is to say something that your ideological disposition cannot afford, and it comes from a source you deem unworthy, then by that fact alone it must be a lie.

 

[HeismaNole]

Dumbass supporters of Ukraine wait to be told what to think and feel by the worst monsters in the world. No coincidence the avid supporters of Zelensky are also avid supporters of everything big government/intel agencies push- how many boosters are you on, BBGA?

I’m sure your social media the last handful of years was like ◼😷💉🇺🇦

 

[Spica Orbit]

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Dumbass supporters of Ukraine wait to be told what to think and feel by the worst monsters in the world. No coincidence the avid supporters of Zelensky are also avid supporters of everything big government/intel agencies push- how many boosters are you on, BBGA?

I’m sure your social media the last handful of years was are ◼😷💉🇺🇦

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Off topic, but I have a friend who developed heart problems a couple of years ago, but takes a booster every time a new one is announced. I mean, good God, watch something other than MSNBC or CNN. Better yet, read something other than pharma press releases.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Your fundamental problem is that you care not for veracity, but who says it.

If a source tells you something you want to hear, and you deem them credible, then ipso facto it must true. If the converse, if it's something you don't want to hear, that is to say something that your ideological disposition cannot afford, and it comes from a source you deem unworthy, then by that fact alone it must be a lie.

You clearly don't know me and you didn't try to support any of the lies either.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

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Dumbass supporters of Ukraine wait to be told what to think and feel by the worst monsters in the world. No coincidence the avid supporters of Zelensky are also avid supporters of everything big government/intel agencies push- how many boosters are you on, BBGA?

I’m sure your social media the last handful of years was are ◼😷💉🇺🇦

I got the original shot. I have respiratory issues and needed to avoid covid. None of us, including you, knew how ineffective the shots would turn out to be.

I notice you're still slinging your monkey crap and you still can't support anything you babble. Are you unable to support your statements?

I only support Zelensky because I'm not fond of Russia and I like their attack on Ukraine even less. I'm actually quite conservative and given your posting history, I'm quite bright compared to you. Thats no big accomplishment though.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

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Off topic, but I have a friend who developed heart problems a couple of years ago, but takes a booster every time a new one is announced. I mean, good God, watch something other than MSNBC or CNN. Better yet, read something other than pharma press releases.

Do you know what anecdotal means?

 

[Bill Cosby]

None of us, including you, knew how ineffective the shots would turn out to be.

Some of us didn’t blindly follow the obvious bullshit that was being parroted, as mouthpieces of big pharma and the government lied through their ****ing teeth telling you the shots were “safe and effective.”

Pure coincidence those people went from shot emojis in their bios to Ukrainian flags.

 

[SDC8888]

You clearly don't know me and you didn't try to support any of the lies either.

It's not just true of you, but of all of you. If it contradicts your narrative, then it must be a lie from a pro_russia person. Which is nonsense (there's a 3rd option, ya know, being pro/anti neither, being pro PEACE), but You'll never apply that same presumption introspectively.

So as not to make it personal, ook at the "new" guy here who promotes the institute of the study of war (as if people here in this thread aren't aware of them) as a great place to go to understand the war. Of course they are going to tell you the war needs to continue;they are literally funding by the people who are profiting from it . You are in all actuality just being propagandized; you read all these thinktank articles explaining the world to you as if it's information, but they are all funded by the likes of Raytheon. You are literally being marketed to. Not only is he the president of hairclub for men, he's a client too!

Your actual understanding of this war, why it's being waged and why, how easily indeed it could've been and it should've been prevented, is zero... less than zero even.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Some of us didn’t blindly follow the obvious bullshit that was being parroted, as mouthpieces of big pharma and the government lied through their ****ing teeth telling you the shots were “safe and effective.”

Pure coincidence those people went from shot emojis in their bios to Ukrainian flags.

Hmm, you do realize the shots were first championed by Trump. You actually have no idea if the shot helped at all. Its quite likely that it lessened the strength of the virus. Your blanket statement is inaccurate, again.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

It's not just true of you, but of all of you. If it contradicts your narrative, then it must be a lie from a pro_russia person. Which is nonsense (there's a 3rd option, ya know, being pro/anti neither, being pro PEACE), but You'll never apply that same presumption introspectively.

So as not to make it personal, ook at the "new" guy here who promotes the institute of the study of war (as if people here in this thread aren't aware of them) as a great place to go to understand the war. Of course they are going to tell you the war needs to continue;they are literally funding by the people who are profiting from it . You are in all actuality just being propagandized; you read all these thinktank articles explaining the world to you as if it's information, but they are all funded by the likes of Raytheon. You are literally being marketed to. Not only is he the president of hairclub for men, he's a client too!

Your actual understanding of this war, why it's being waged and why, how easily indeed it could've been and it should've been prevented, is zero... less than zero even.

Untrue and lazy. Before I make such statements I do some research and, no, I dont pay attention to much MSM. As for your final statement, right back at ya. You've been wrong repeatedly about this war. You're quite fond of your opinion but you've never proven anything. Sometimes I feel like I'm arguing with a flat earther. You arent one of those too are you?

 

[SDC8888]

There, your goal is just to dismiss. If the person believes one crazy unsubstantiated thing, such as a flat earther does, then their opinion on anything else can be subsequently dismissed.

That is what's lazy. If you realized what your "arguments" said about you, you wouldn't make them.

And no, I have most certainly not been repeatedly proven wrong about this war. Anyone can go back and read what I've said about this war. I stand by it all. Nor have I been arguing with you. For me thereis no argument: just an informed opinion vs an uninformed one, a propagandized narrative designed to manufacture consent from the public used to mask the naked war profiteering and geopolitical gain, nothing more.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Some of us didn’t blindly follow the obvious bullshit that was being parroted, as mouthpieces of big pharma and the government lied through their ****ing teeth telling you the shots were “safe and effective.”

Pure coincidence those people went from shot emojis in their bios to Ukrainian flags.

Anecdotally, I agree that the people who berated and demeaned and virtue signaled over vaccines were likely to switch to a Ukraine flag. If my experience is common, why do you think that was so?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Hmm, you do realize the shots were first championed by Trump. You actually have no idea if the shot helped at all. Its quite likely that it lessened the strength of the virus. Your blanket statement is inaccurate, again.

That is a theory. It exists with the truth that viruses tend to weaken as mutation takes place. So, it’s a theory.

Let me add that people were harmed by the vaccine and we knew, basically, early on who was at greatest risk and who was not. The push for vaccinations denied that understanding.

 

[Spica Orbit]

Do you know what anecdotal means?

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Do you know what taking something you don't need means?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

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Do you know what taking something you don't need means?

And when Trump rushed it thru, did your crystal ball tell you it wasn't needed? Well hells bells, You should have notified Trump. I thought you liked him as I did.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

That is a theory. It exists with the truth that viruses tend to weaken as mutation takes place. So, it’s a theory.

Let me add that people were harmed by the vaccine and we knew, basically, early on who was at greatest risk and who was not. The push for vaccinations denied that understanding.

Yes, in large part but it wasn't at the beginning. That was a few months in.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

There, your goal is just to dismiss. If the person believes one crazy unsubstantiated thing, such as a flat earther does, then their opinion on anything else can be subsequently dismissed.

That is what's lazy. If you realized what your "arguments" said about you, you wouldn't make them.

And no, I have most certainly not been repeatedly proven wrong about this war. Anyone can go back and read what I've said about this war. I stand by it all. Nor have I been arguing with you. For me thereis no argument: just an informed opinion vs an uninformed one, a propagandized narrative designed to manufacture consent from the public used to mask the naked war profiteering and geopolitical gain, nothing more.

No but their opinion on anything else deserves extra scrutiny.

 

[SDC8888]

No but their opinion on anything else deserves extra scrutiny.

Apply that same scrutiny with genuine intellectual integrity to the pro0war narrative brought to you by thinktanks paid for by the MIC and you'll realize the war was manufactured for profiteering and geopolitics, should've and could;ve been easily avoided.

Same as it ever was... rich man's war, poor man's fight.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Hmm, you do realize the shots were first championed by Trump. You actually have no idea if the shot helped at all. Its quite likely that it lessened the strength of the virus. Your blanket statement is inaccurate, again.

I don’t care who championed them. They were experimental shots that skipped all normal trials, then shamed and/or forced into arms of scared victims. It’s not quite likely at all it lessened the strength, you literally just made that up.

It’s not coincidental that the Venn diagram of Covid shot zealots and Ukrainian war zealots is a circle.

 

[vhcat70]

It’s not coincidental that the Venn diagram of Covid shot zealots and Ukrainian war zealots is a circle.

There aren't any Ukraine War zealots to speak of given the figment nature of the term. Only Russia Invasion War opponents.

 

[vhcat70]

So Trump has got Russia to agree to slow Their Black Sea warring in exchange for US sanctions relief while just jawboning Ukraine to completely stop returning fire from Russia firing there. But no agreement between the fighting parties. What a deal !!

 

[Spica Orbit]

And when Trump rushed it thru, did your crystal ball tell you it wasn't needed? Well hells bells, You should have notified Trump. I thought you liked him as I did.

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I was diagnosed with cancer in 2018. I had to take the shots in order to get continued treatment. If it hadn't been for that, no I wouldn't have taken it.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

So Trump has got Russia to agree to slow Their Black Sea warring in exchange for US sanctions relief while just jawboning Ukraine to completely stop returning fire from Russia firing there. But no agreement between the fighting parties. What a deal !!

We know you prefer all out war over any progression towards possible peace. That’s why you never asked your boy Biden to even attempt peace.

 

[vhcat70]

We know you prefer all out war over any progression towards possible peace. That’s why you never asked your boy Biden to even attempt peace.

U no DS.