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The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)

Now, see here, your grumpy old goat. This thing is not our problem. Are you wanting to see World War 3, or what?

Mind your business.
Trump has made it our problem by berating Zelenskyy and then forcing him to do what he wanted. Get with the (Trump) program. He owns it now.
 
Trump has made it our problem by berating Zelenskyy and then forcing him to do what he wanted. Get with the (Trump) program. He owns it now.
Ah, but you were all hot about this crap almost three years before Trump had his 2nd inauguration. You have been wailing for three years, and, for what?
 
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Ah, but you were all hot about this crap almost three years before Trump had his 2nd inauguration. You have been wailing for three years, and, for what?
You tell me, genius. Trump's made it only his issue now. What's his solution? None as yet after saying he'd do it in a day. Why aren't you on his case?
 
Because, I have other things to worry about. This crap probably wouldn't even make my top 250 things to keep me up at night, see?
Typical of most of our anti's. You're comfy in your recliner, watching the cats play, drinking a cold beer or an aged bourbon, so why on earth would you ever care about the Ukrainians. You're good and not your problem. We understan.
 
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Typical of most of our anti's. You're comfy in your recliner, watching the cats play, drinking a cold beer or an aged bourbon, so why on earth would you ever care about the Ukrainians. You're good and not your problem. We understan.
No, you don't understand.

This is an argument used against you, which you perceived as effective, so you inverted it against them. There is no greater enemy of the Ukrainian people than those who drew them into this fight needlessly for profit and geopolitical gain.

They are sacrificial pawns, sadly.,
 
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Precisely what I mean.

They just rehash the same narratives to manufacture consent from an ignorant public; whatever is expedient. I don't know what to tell you if you think this loser, who is a totally dishonest malignant narcissist even by the very low standards set by politicians, is capable of relaying a genuine, competent adjudication of anything.

 
No, you don't understand.

This is an argument used against you, which you perceived as effective, so you inverted it against them. There is no greater enemy of the Ukrainian people than those who drew them into this fight needlessly for profit and geopolitical gain.

They are sacrificial pawns, sadly.,
No genius, I first used that 3 years ago against jumperjack. Go look it up and stop thinking you're right. You're almost never right.
 
That's why you'd do everythign you can to prevent war from happening in the first place by finding a mutually agreeable state of affairs for all parties involved.

Something Zel was elected to do but then reneged on his campaign platform when the oligarchs and hard right forces in Ukr told him no.
 
Typical of most of our anti's. You're comfy in your recliner, watching the cats play, drinking a cold beer or an aged bourbon, so why on earth would you ever care about the Ukrainians. You're good and not your problem. We understan.
There have been wars raging around the world for all of history that didn’t affect us.

The borders of Europe changed shape more times than could be counted in the 19th century. America went right on and prospered, blissfully uninvolved, because those generations could remember Washington as a man and not an abstraction.

Aggression happening in the world is not a reason to go to war, or to fund an endless war. This is as true now as it has always been.
 
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