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The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)

I know, I did.

No, you didn't. Well, you never understood what I was telling you so I guess you could "honestly" bleieve your projection and mischaracterization.

But no, that's not ever what I said nor what I did in my attempts to explain things to you (pl).
 
No, you didn't. Well, you never understood what I was telling you so I guess you could "honestly" bleieve your projection and mischaracterization.

But no, that's not ever what I said nor what I did in my attempts to explain things to you (pl).
Yes, we all know you're far to intelligent for we dolts to understand what you're saying.

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Yes, we all know you're far to intelligent for we dolts to understand what you're saying.

Comedy Lol GIF by Hello All

It's nothing (little) to do with intelligence. It wasn't me belittling you, your (pl) intelligence and character, making all manner of derogatory and dishonest comments against you. That was you (pl).

Like I said, you'll figure out I was right. At some point or anther, you'll figure out I was always right.
 
US funded muhjahideen in Afghanistan to fight Soviets and then Al Qaeda sprang out of that and killed 1000's of Americans. You go watch this old documentary on how we funded terrorist and never thought of what would happen with them later. Absolutely no plan for what comes after.

Also Google Timber Sycamore
 
Yes, and it hasn't happened and won't. My opinion of you has been one of hiding under a desk trying to convince us all that WWIII is gonna break out any day now.

One can support Ukraine without it leading to WWIII. You can't seem to wrap your head around it.
Or you guys can't understand that Ukraine can fight all they want...still has no reason for the US to be involved. Either ww3 is ridiculous or putin can take over the world if we don't assist Ukraine...you can't have it both ways.

Did you guys know when Germany went through reunification that was a concession by russia, bc it meant the west was moving closer to them but they made the concession upon the terms NATO would move no further east of Germany...of GERMANY.
 
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Or you guys can't understand that Ukraine can fight all they want...still has no reason for the US to be involved. Either ww3 is ridiculous or putin can take over the world if we don't assist Ukraine...you can't have it both ways.

Did you guys know when Germany went through reunification that was a concession by russia, bc it meant the west was moving closer to them but they made the concession upon the terms NATO would move no further east of Germany...of GERMANY.
Total bs post.
 
I’ve seen variations of a peace proposal/proposals. How confident are you all a peace deal will be achieved rather quickly and what will it look like? Land swap of Kursk-occupied land for Russian-occupied land in Ukraine? Russia giving up some land in exchange for Ukraine not joining NATO for X amount of years?

No right or wrong answer, just curious.
 
Unrelated, it appears the warm-water port base at Tartus won’t be under Russian control for much longer.
Unless you narrow-mindedly focus on Russia-Ukraine as a local issue, it is related to and a factor in the global conflicts going on.
 
I’ve seen variations of a peace proposal/proposals. How confident are you all a peace deal will be achieved rather quickly and what will it look like? Land swap of Kursk-occupied land for Russian-occupied land in Ukraine? Russia giving up some land in exchange for Ukraine not joining NATO for X amount of years?

No right or wrong answer, just curious.
I admittedly haven’t followed the conflict closely recently. But what makes you think Russia is going to accept those kinds of terms? Has Ukraine had some large gains? And unless they have done so, my opinion is Russia doesn’t settle for anything less than the annexed areas and Ukraine not being admitted to NATO at any point.
 
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I admittedly haven’t followed the conflict closely recently. But what makes you think Russia is going to accept those kinds of terms? Has Ukraine had some large gains? And unless they have done so, my opinion is Russia doesn’t settle for anything less than the annexed areas and Ukraine not being admitted to NATO at any point.
I’m not saying they will accept those terms. Simply asking the group what a peace deal will look like and how fast it can be accomplished. This is not a baited or gotcha question, just a topic of conversation.

Appreciate your take, I personally believe Russia will have to give up something as a stepping stone towards a peace deal. You apparently don’t think they will have to make any concessions, that’s cool. Their economy is in for a hell of a ride in 2025.
 
Unless you narrow-mindedly focus on Russia-Ukraine as a local issue, it is related to and a factor in the global conflicts going on.
Well, the thread is about Ukraine. Should we edit the title and make it the Ukraine AND Syria thread? Please enlighten me ole wise one.
 


Look at all the work msm and the intel comm is doing to pretend they aren't propping up a terrorist just to hurt Russia by hurting Syria. I honestly don't know where some of you think this goes to it's end.... Do you think we can just topple government after government and allow millions of their citizens into our country and in 20 years we'll be this model democratic Republic that just lords over a peaceful world? LOL
 
Well, the thread is about Ukraine. Should we edit the title and make it the Ukraine AND Syria thread? Please enlighten me ole wise one.
I responded to a post about Russia & Syria. Who made that post? Should I not have responded because it wasn't about Ukraine?
 


Look at all the work msm and the intel comm is doing to pretend they aren't propping up a terrorist just to hurt Russia by hurting Syria. I honestly don't know where some of you think this goes to it's end.... Do you think we can just topple government after government and allow millions of their citizens into our country and in 20 years we'll be this model democratic Republic that just lords over a peaceful world? LOL
bcw, another post not about Ukraine. Are you going to go after this one too? Or is your mission just to go after me with any excuse?
 
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Look at all the work msm and the intel comm is doing to pretend they aren't propping up a terrorist just to hurt Russia by hurting Syria. I honestly don't know where some of you think this goes to it's end.... Do you think we can just topple government after government and allow millions of their citizens into our country and in 20 years we'll be this model democratic Republic that just lords over a peaceful world? LOL
I don't see anyone promoting him & his group, just reporting what's going on. Data on how the US is promoting it would be useful to backup your claim that "we can just topple government".
 
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Look at all the work msm and the intel comm is doing to pretend they aren't propping up a terrorist just to hurt Russia by hurting Syria. I honestly don't know where some of you think this goes to it's end.... Do you think we can just topple government after government and allow millions of their citizens into our country and in 20 years we'll be this model democratic Republic that just lords over a peaceful world? LOL
Yeah HMT, Syria was far better off with Assad in control. Russia did so much for the Syrian people. “We” aren’t toppling anyone. That would be Erdogan. How many civilians in Idlib did Russia kill dropping bombs?
 
Yeah HMT, Syria was far better off with Assad in control. Russia did so much for the Syrian people. “We” aren’t toppling anyone. That would be Erdogan. How many civilians in Idlib did Russia kill dropping bombs?
He's excellent at making false premises to justify whatever he says afterwards or before. Then gets POed when you challenge the premise. Quite a talent.
 
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Yeah HMT, Syria was far better off with Assad in control. Russia did so much for the Syrian people. “We” aren’t toppling anyone. That would be Erdogan. How many civilians in Idlib did Russia kill dropping bombs?
It's funny that you think Assad just started killing people for no reason. Like everything was fine.... we wanted to build a pipeline through Syria and all the sudden Assad just started murking people. Weird timing huh. And if Assad was so bad then how come he had the largest Christian population left in the middle east? Why were there so many ethnic minorities living in peace for so long? One pipeline and all that is done. It's like you didn't know that starting war was going to end up in the death of tons of people. Shocker.
 
I guess if the Islamist get too bold in Syria after Assad flees or dies we can always start a war against them too. Maybe we can find a way to fight in Syria for 20 years or something.
 
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Russians have pulled out and it looks like Syrian army is completely collapsing. Syria is probably days away from being an Islamist state. We'll see if that good for us over the next few years I guess.
 
I guess if the Islamist get to bold in Syria after Assad flees or dies we can always start a war against them too. Maybe we can find a way to fight in Syria for 20 years or something.
I doubt Trump starts a war in Syria. Why don't you?
 


Russians have pulled out and it looks like Syrian army is completely collapsing. Syria is probably days away from being an Islamist state. We'll see if that good for us over the next few years I guess.
Wow, so this isn't just a localized Russia War on Ukraine anymore. It's spread to the Mideast. All we need now is China/Taiwan to show RWoU never was just a localized land grab conflict. LMAO at the DA view on local war. Hilarious.
 
It's funny that you think Assad just started killing people for no reason. Like everything was fine.... we wanted to build a pipeline through Syria and all the sudden Assad just started murking people. Weird timing huh. And if Assad was so bad then how come he had the largest Christian population left in the middle east? Why were there so many ethnic minorities living in peace for so long? One pipeline and all that is done. It's like you didn't know that starting war was going to end up in the death of tons of people. Shocker.
Yep, that’s what this is all about. A pipeline. Good call.

We’re looking at a land grab in Syria right now. Everyone wants a piece!
 
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Yep, that’s what this is all about. A pipeline. Good call.

We’re looking at a land grab in Syria right now. Everyone wants a piece!
Lol.. Some people try to pretend to be neutral and some people just are retarded.....
 
Or you guys can't understand that Ukraine can fight all they want...still has no reason for the US to be involved. Either ww3 is ridiculous or putin can take over the world if we don't assist Ukraine...you can't have it both ways.

Did you guys know when Germany went through reunification that was a concession by russia, bc it meant the west was moving closer to them but they made the concession upon the terms NATO would move no further east of Germany...of GERMANY.
Poor russia, a country who has rarely lived up to promises made in treaties. Your 2 choices, ww3 and Putin taking over arent close to the only possibilities.
 
Lol. TF is wrong with you?

The US funded the Mujahedeen through Pakistani secret services. It's also well known that the CIA and our special forces were on the ground training them.

Bin Laden went there with a wave of Arabs who became known as the Afghan Arabs. They fought under the Mujahedeen banner along with other foreign fighters bought and paid for by the Pakistani secret services using US funds.

Al Qaeda was formed once the Russians beat feet. Those Afghan Arabs decided to hang around and join up.

Those same Pakis took the rest of the funding and used it to pay for their madrassas where they trained tons of their own "students". They then sent them in number back to Afghanistan once the Russians retreated. There they formed their own faction and fought against the remnants of the Mujahedeen, who were by then shattered into smaller factions. Those asshole became the Taliban.

So the US not only paid for the Taliban, they also helped to form Al Qaeda.
 
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