"Elite" is too weak. The level we currently have 1-4 is historic. I'm already resigned to the toxic level of casual dismissal and peevishness that this board is going to be next year.
The transfer portal should be interesting
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Did you think Reed would be this level of player at UK as a freshman?
I am not going to write any of the new guys off months before they get here. Travis Perry may be special or, average, I don't know but he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
"There is a lot of upside defensively. He has great length with quick twitch and explosion. Can switch down a line up and guard fours also the athleticism to run with twos and threes. Will need to continue tightening the mechanics and keeping a consistent motor. Is the younger brother of NBAer Kevin Knox."
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What part of that do you not understand ? Curious, what are your qualifications to give that opinion / evaluation ? Have you seen him play ? "Has great LENGTH with QUICK twitch and EXPLOSION. Has the athleticism to run with the 2's and 3's." Funny, you use Reed and DJ asking if I think he could guard them, Reed is a great player, but speed, quickness, and ability to create his own shot, is NOT his forte. His superior size and length, (and would say is quicker than Sheppard), was not the greatest measuring stick. Reed has problems with taller, more athletic, even quicker, physical guards. Using him to ask the question if Knox can guard smaller players lets me know everything I need to know about how you came to your evaluation of Knox's abilities. What about on offense, do you think Reed, or even DJ could guard Knox ? There is two ends of the court, Knox has the ability, quickness, and athleticism to potentially be very good at both ends. Several scouts (you know, guys who do this for a living, not armchair it) says he can. Until you can come with some FACTS on why he can't, I will take their opinion over yours. By the way, the "stuck in the 80's" comment was also not very revealing in your debate. Todays game players are bigger, stronger, faster. 6-6 / 224 being able to guard 1-4 is NOT uncommon, you must not watch basketball. Not saying he is Paul George (may never be, that is lofty expectations), but his game is VERY similar, are you saying George would have had trouble guarding Reed or DJ ? Not George today, college Paul George (today George would be unfair he is an elite defensive / offensive superstar). I simply use him as a size and athletic example of a player that Knox models his game after, built like, and plays like. Oh, and Paul George is not stuck in the 80's.
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That was not my comedy material, but glad you got relief from it. But rather than make fly post with no information or substance in it, why don't you spend some time and watch players / games and maybe then you could possibly come with a informed, intelligent counter. Making smart ass, one line fly by post does not make you a intelligent, informed basketball fan, quite the opposite actually. Guys like you are plentiful and a dime a dozen on here, you THINK you know it all, but do not know jack shit. But that is ok, maybe one day you will educate yourself and be able to come to the big boy table and discuss basketball. I hope so anyway your really an embarrassment to fans who try to have discussions and opinions that differ from your uninformed one.
FACTS, just the facts, come with them, or stay on the porch young fella.
FACTS, just the facts, come with them, or stay on the porch young fella.
To impress me let me know the next time a 6.6 225 forward can guard our guards and be able to guard at 30 ft out and beat them to the goal when they drive . You don’t know todays game at all
6'4 220lb Trevor Keels didn't have any problem spanking TyTy's ass at the Champions Classic.
Keels is not doing much in the NBA but helped Duke to a FF.
Is that not the type of freshman UK fans want since they don't care what they do in the NBA.
High floor/ low ceiling.
That describes Karter Knox.
Everyone this time next year will be damn glad we got Karter since his is physically ready to compete day 1.
He is the antithesis of a Hami Diallo or BJ Boston.
Yes, and after having several years that we might have 1 decent 3 point shooter on the team
Sure I do. My point of view is backed with facts and comparisons. YOU on the other hand, have not stated ONE fact or info that he can't. SEVERAL people that evaluate players FOR A LIVING, not post fly by one liners on a message board, has witnessed him and his abilities. Not ALL 6-6 guys are created equal. Some are quicker, stronger, and more athletic than others. This is not a cookie cutter factory where ALL 6-6 / 224 pound players are all equally talented in their abilities. My goodness, you are bringing NOTHING to this debate based on facts. It is all based on what you THINK and you haven't even watched the kid. There are SEVERAL 6-6 guys who can guard smaller players. He has the QUICKNESS and ATHLETIC talent to do it. There are guys 6-10 who have the athletic ability and quickness to do it also. Quit trying to put ALL 6-6 guys in the same mold. Not every player are created equally in abilities, if so, there would be no need for draft analysis and scouting reports.
Example : I guess all 6-4 240 pound linebackers are slow and can't tackle smaller running backs ?? You are to thick headed (or maybe just to dense) to understand this. Look at the damn NFL combine, you had 250+ pound guys scoring off the charts in the 40 YD, vertical jump, broad jump, cone agility test. Jamin Davis is a 6-3 240 pound linebacker and runs a sub 4.4 forty yard dash. You are just making yourself look more foolish every post trying to counter the expert analysis without bringing ANY information to back your stance. "you are stuck in the 80's", "6-6 / 224 pound guys can't guard smaller guards", you have no proof of that, just talking out of your ass, based on what you THINK.
I will give you ONE example, then I am done, I am not going to continue wasting my time arguing with someone who is too dense to talk basketball. Deandre Liggins was 6-6 / 215 pounds at UK. Are you saying he could not guard Sheppard 30 feet from the basket or quick enough to guard him ? OK, I am tired of smacking you around, while trying to talk / debate basketball with someone who doesn't have the mental capability to carry on a intelligent conversation. No need replying, I just dropped the mic on your no knowledge of the game ass. Move along and find someone more of your ilk.
That's a good point about Knox's body. And I would think that a "high floor" is a must for an OAD to generally have enough value to take a roster spot. I feel good about Knox having a role on next season's team, just thinking backup SF is probably the best role for him next year on a contending team.
Save your time and energy. He is to dense to combat your point of view. I gave him Deandre Liggins. I guess he would not be able to guard 30 feet from the basket or quick enough ?? He is saying ALL players 6-6 cannot guard smaller players, and with NOTHING to back his stance. "They can't" that is his whole retort.
Well ok Historic, but I wanna reserve that for how good we end. Yea it is actually historic especially for Cal numbers wise but I want them to have a final 4 at worst!
Yeah it is historic. Shep and Dilly are vying to be the number one NBA pick, Wagner is a third generation McDonalds AA, and Reeves may be the best 5th year transfer portal wing in CBB.
True that. Was a fan of AR last year and this year he has taken his game to another level. How/why he isn’t seeing any love at the next level at this stage is quite baffling. Hard to imagine what our team looks like without him and how good we would actually be. Good yes, a threat to win it, probably not. He adds that much to our team.
I wouldn’t mind pilfering that Vandy point guard. He isn’t a great shooter but he is a heck of a player.
I think you can even take the qualifiers off of Reeves. The only wing in CBB that probably has an argument is Dalton Knecht, and Reeves offensive efficiency stats actually look better.
Have you seen Quaintance, Cyril, Richmond, and Knox? How many linebackers and boxers can one basketball team use?
I know it's a longshot but I'd like to land Liam McNeeley. Need a pure shooter for next year, that dudes form is flawless
Javon small should definitely be a guard Kentucky looks at. Small and Erik reynolds with fland would be a really good backcourt
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