The Slice deal stinks.

[JasonS.]

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[hoggwildcat]

Bottom line, Mullin is a unproven coach.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

Originally posted by catlogic15:
Not boo-hooing. But does bother me that Slice used the enormous recruiting budget of UK, the resources, private plane, unlimited time, etc. to build a relationship on our dime to then stear them away. I have a problem with that.
If he were that great on his own, why didn't Pittsburgh sign 4 5 stars a year?
After this year, Slice goes away. St. John's ain't Kentucky.

Wow! That's just absurd. I don't think you were on here bitching when Cal brought DeMarcus, Wall, and Bledsoe with him. DeMarcus had even already committed to Memphis.
You can't get upset about that. That's just the way coaching goes. I doubt Slice knew that Lavin would be fired after this year. He prolly would've just stayed in Pittsburgh.

 

[Arrogant Blue]

Originally posted by brianpoe:

Originally posted by Arrogant Blue:

The guy was a bad hire, plain and simple.

Yes this is part of college basketball, and we've been on the other side of it before..... Cal with Memphis, and Kenny Paine with Washington.

He was brought in as recruiter only, and unless he brought in Briscoe by himself, he accomplished nothing. All the recruiting he did on our behalf is now working towards St. Johns. I get why left, and I'm not blaming anyone.... but he has proven to be a bad hire nonetheless.

Luckily we have the best coaching staff in the nation still in place, and I have no doubts we'll be fine.

You have no idea if he was a bad hire or not, only Cal can make that statement.

Hindsight is 20\20..... Which is why I'm not blaming anyone, but if a guy was brought in for one reason (this case recruiting).... Doesn't bring us anyone, and in fact, before finishing one season with a team, is now recruiting the same players to another team.... It doesn't take Cal to figure out it was a bad hire.

But if you want to single out my extremely positive post about it, in a thread full of negative ones.... There's not much else I can say to you, except..... well, I'll just leave it at that. I'm not going to bash another fan for disagreeing with me.

 

[BBBLazing]

Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Originally posted by Aike:


Coaches have every right to move on. Get.Over.It.





Slice has the right to move on, but UK fans certainly have the right to piss and moan as much as they want about him leaving halfway through the battle. It works both ways.


Would be like a preacher leaving a church but taking half the congregation with him, or a computer programmer leaving a company and taking his former company's ideas with him.

UK is competing with Slice and St. John's for a future lottery pick. He's the competition now, and UK fans absolutely have the right to hope he fails as a result of being a competitor.

This post was edited on 4/17 10:28 PM by Son_Of_Saul


This happens every day unless there is a contract that prevents it.

 

[preacherfan]

Originally posted by Arrogant Blue

You have no idea if he was a bad hire or not, only Cal can make that statement.

Hindsight is 20\20..... Which is why I'm not blaming anyone, but if a guy was brought in for one reason (this case recruiting).... Doesn't bring us anyone, and in fact, before finishing one season with a team, is now recruiting the same players to another team.... It doesn't take Cal to figure out it was a bad hire.

But if you want to single out my extremely positive post about it, in a thread full of negative ones.... There's not much else I can say to you, except..... well, I'll just leave it at that. I'm not going to bash another fan for disagreeing with me.

I have NO problem agreeing with you that it was a bad hire. What we don't know is why it was. But, we do know that he was only at Pitt a year before taking the UK job. His reputation was as a recruiter and, as you said, whom did he recruit?

 

[jameslee32]

Originally posted by BBBLazing:

Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Originally posted by Aike:


Coaches have every right to move on. Get.Over.It.





Slice has the right to move on, but UK fans certainly have the right to piss and moan as much as they want about him leaving halfway through the battle. It works both ways.


Would be like a preacher leaving a church but taking half the congregation with him, or a computer programmer leaving a company and taking his former company's ideas with him.

UK is competing with Slice and St. John's for a future lottery pick. He's the competition now, and UK fans absolutely have the right to hope he fails as a result of being a competitor.

This post was edited on 4/17 10:28 PM by Son_Of_Saul


This happens every day unless there is a contract that prevents it.

That might not be practical in sports but would be sheer genius having a signed contract to prevent it.

 

[mebeblue2]

Originally posted by catlogic15:
Not boo-hooing. But does bother me that Slice used the enormous recruiting budget of UK, the resources, private plane, unlimited time, etc. to build a relationship on our dime to then stear them away. I have a problem with that.
If he were that great on his own, why didn't Pittsburgh sign 4 5 stars a year?
After this year, Slice goes away. St. John's ain't Kentucky.

did you have the same problem with Cal recruiting Wall and Cousins while at Memphis and then bringing both to UK?

I read all the whining on here, and you would think Cal never brought in a #1 recruiting class without Slice

 

[K-Town Kat]

St. John's aint doing squat.

Cal can recruit circles around that Sopranos bum.

 

[chevyman 50]

The guy was here only 1 yr, we had great recruits before his name was ever heard of, the 2 asst. coaches who left before him was much better recruiters.

 

[Rondoed]

Just when I finally thought we were getting over the loss of Scott Rigot, now this happens.

Gloom, despair, and agony.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Originally posted by jameslee32:

Originally posted by BBBLazing:

Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Originally posted by Aike:


Coaches have every right to move on. Get.Over.It.





Slice has the right to move on, but UK fans certainly have the right to piss and moan as much as they want about him leaving halfway through the battle. It works both ways.


Would be like a preacher leaving a church but taking half the congregation with him, or a computer programmer leaving a company and taking his former company's ideas with him.

UK is competing with Slice and St. John's for a future lottery pick. He's the competition now, and UK fans absolutely have the right to hope he fails as a result of being a competitor.

This post was edited on 4/17 10:28 PM by Son_Of_Saul


This happens every day unless there is a contract that prevents it.

That might not be practical in sports but would be sheer genius having a signed contract to prevent it.

In the business world it's call a 'non-compete contract'. Years ago I got sued for a million dollars from an ex-employer because I left them and went to a competitor. After a lot of time, money, and depositions it was dropped because I lived in a 'right to work' state, and those contracts don't hold water. But live in a non-right to work state and you're toast.

 

[DDS62]

OK all of you bleeding heart liberals (I have to listen to that line every day) everything you say about Roherssen leaving being just part of the game is true but how can you guys not hate the man? I mean yes Cal did the same thing, but Roherssen jumped in bed with Chris Mullins, the prick that jabbed Walker in the eye and kept Kentucky out of the 85 FF. I have always hated Mullins and the way he played in that game and I hope like hell Cal can even the score, do some more magic and reel in Diallo.

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite]

Kept us out of the FF? We were probably lucky to even be in the tourny that year.

 

[Arrogant Blue]

I'm not gonna hate the man.... He seemed like a nice guy, which I think is why most of us have been pretty civil about it. Plus its understandable why he took the job. It's also part of the game unfortunately, which we've benefited from In the past.

All that said, in round about way, he did totally screw us over. Also, when you're main job is recruiting, it starts to look bad on you when you've been 3 places in 3 years..... So he better hope it works out in St. Johns. It wont look good on his résumé if it doesn't.

But we're the last school to have to worry about recruiting, so for the above reasons, I wish him well..... But I'm not going to pretend he didn't hurt us in some way.

I guess I keep venting about it because it does piss me off, but at the same time, I understand it.... Nothing we can do.

 

[KYCAT78]

So it is ok for the players to leave and follow their dream but not coach's?

 

[BBBLazing]

Originally posted by OHIO COLONEL:

Originally posted by jameslee32:

Originally posted by BBBLazing:

Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Originally posted by Aike:


Coaches have every right to move on. Get.Over.It.





Slice has the right to move on, but UK fans certainly have the right to piss and moan as much as they want about him leaving halfway through the battle. It works both ways.


Would be like a preacher leaving a church but taking half the congregation with him, or a computer programmer leaving a company and taking his former company's ideas with him.

UK is competing with Slice and St. John's for a future lottery pick. He's the competition now, and UK fans absolutely have the right to hope he fails as a result of being a competitor.

This post was edited on 4/17 10:28 PM by Son_Of_Saul


This happens every day unless there is a contract that prevents it.

That might not be practical in sports but would be sheer genius having a signed contract to prevent it.

In the business world it's call a 'non-compete contract'. Years ago I got sued for a million dollars from an ex-employer because I left them and went to a competitor. After a lot of time, money, and depositions it was dropped because I lived in a 'right to work' state, and those contracts don't hold water. But live in a non-right to work state and you're toast.

In the context of non-compete agreements between employees and employers, a distinction must be drawn between a "right-to-work" law and the individual right of an employee to be gainfully employed. A right-to-work law is typically a law governing the relations between unions, laborers, union dues the rights in collective bargaining agreements; they typically have no effect on a non-compete agreement. An individual employee's right to be gainfully employed (meaning his right to find work that he is suitable to perform) can be affected by a non-compete agreement.

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/right-work-vs-noncompete-58492.html