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The problem with Lincoln Riley teams

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They can't win only scoring in the 20s. It's very rare for a Riley team to win 27-24 or something like that. They just never have a defense that's capable of keeping a good team from scoring 30.
 
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They avoided Oregon and Washington on the schedule this year. Notre Dame might be the best team they actually beat.
 
If they'd made the CFP, Georgia would have exposed them bad.

I guess OSU is in now. If TCU loses, does Bama with 2 losses get in over them? TN beat Bama but they don't jump them in the ratings? Crazy.
 
Riley's defense is always gonna be gassed by the end of the game. The offensive system does nothing slowly. If they are successful, they score quickly and the defense is back on the field. If they're not successful, they punt quickly and the defense is back on the field.

I hate that UK is so deliberate but our system does help our defense stay fresh. Now we've taken it to an extreme at times but the hurry up offense is almost always going to require that the offense scores 40 points because the defense won't be able to stop any decent team.
 
If they'd made the CFP, Georgia would have exposed them bad.

I guess OSU is in now. If TCU loses, does Bama with 2 losses get in over them? TN beat Bama but they don't jump them in the ratings? Crazy.
Then OSU would move to 3 and face Michigan again.
 
They can't win only scoring in the 20s. It's very rare for a Riley team to win 27-24 or something like that. They just never have a defense that's capable of keeping a good team from scoring 30.

Because those type teams are soft, always have been. Just look at OU under Riley, now he has carried it to USC. They would be pressed get t ING to a bowl playing Big10 or Sec.
 
Because those type teams are soft, always have been. Just look at OU under Riley, now he has carried it to USC. They would be pressed get t ING to a bowl playing Big10 or Sec.
Yep. can’t wait to see USC & Riley go on the road in the B1G in November with a pass heavy….no defense team. Not going to be sustainable. UCLA will be even worse.

Ugly.

Enjoy the money boys because PAC12 transplants ain’t winning s#ite!

GBB!
 
Stoops has the right model. Saban went away from it because he has the bodies on defense to play fast or slow. Big time football is always won up front.

The only problem with always managing the number of plays in every game it makes some games closer than they need to be. When the offense gets in a rhythm offensive he needs to sit back and enjoy the ride.
 
Worse than Utah did?
Lose twice to the same team (second worse than the first) and you don’t go to the playoff, unless the team that beat you is in the playoff. I fell asleep at the end of the third quarter. Utah must have rolled them in the fourth. OSU is in. Thankful that South Caroline beat Clemson or Clemson would be in. UGH!!!
 
Yep. can’t wait to see USC & Riley go on the road in the B1G in November with a pass heavy….no defense team. Not going to be sustainable. UCLA will be even worse.

Ugly.

Enjoy the money boys because PAC12 transplants ain’t winning s#ite!

GBB!

I won't argue, because this may well prove to be true . . . . but the funny thing is that the PAC 12 used to own the B10 in the Rose Bowl, won 80% of the time, pulled a lot of upsets, but while that is no longer absolutely true, I just looked it up and the last 12 meetings in the Rose Bowl between a PAC 12 team and a B10 team . . . PAC 12 leads 8-4. Could be because the B10 almost always has its best team in the CFP, and the PAC 12 gets left out, but still, 8-4 in favor of the Left Coast.
 
I won't argue, because this may well prove to be true . . . . but the funny thing is that the PAC 12 used to own the B10 in the Rose Bowl, won 80% of the time, pulled a lot of upsets, but while that is no longer absolutely true, I just looked it up and the last 12 meetings in the Rose Bowl between a PAC 12 team and a B10 team . . . PAC 12 leads 8-4. Could be because the B10 almost always has its best team in the CFP, and the PAC 12 gets left out, but still, 8-4 in favor of the Left Coast.
I did read an article that said when a team has to travel across more than 1 time zone the chance of winning drops like 30%. Hard to believe jet lag is that powerful but said Vegas lines account for this phenomenon. Could explain it???
 
I won't argue, because this may well prove to be true . . . . but the funny thing is that the PAC 12 used to own the B10 in the Rose Bowl, won 80% of the time, pulled a lot of upsets, but while that is no longer absolutely true, I just looked it up and the last 12 meetings in the Rose Bowl between a PAC 12 team and a B10 team . . . PAC 12 leads 8-4. Could be because the B10 almost always has its best team in the CFP, and the PAC 12 gets left out, but still, 8-4 in favor of the Left Coast.
Also have to remember that Rose Bowlnis generally played in perfect weather. That won't be the case in November and December when USC and UCLA go on the road.

They'll be OK in the B10 but I wouldn't expect them to be dominant. They'll contend some years, for sure. Think both teams may have to change their style, though. Can't plan to win every game 45-42 in the B10.
 
USC QB got hurt... his magic was gone.

D was exposed. That D I saw vs Utah is not ready for the SEC week to week pounding.

Now, when the magic comes back to the offense, it's a different story, but they gonna have to beef up that physicality to an SEC level.
 
Stoops has the right model. Saban went away from it because he has the bodies on defense to play fast or slow. Big time football is always won up front.

The only problem with always managing the number of plays in every game it makes some games closer than they need to be. When the offense gets in a rhythm offensive he needs to sit back and enjoy the ride.
It’s basically the same model UGA uses. They just have much more talent across the board to make it effective at a championship level.
 
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It’s basically the same model UGA uses. They just have much more talent across the board to make it effective at a championship level.

We won't ever be Georgia or have their talent or a coach as good as Kirby smart. So the model is worthless at UK if you ever want to compete in the SEC.
 
He ran away from OK because of the SEC and still can't get in the playoffs....🤣🤣🤣
 
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