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The great ACC football conference

I don’t understand why so many care enough to comment negatively about conference pride, just move along. We have ACC vs SEC challenges week in football and Basketball we are getting ready to have a Big 10 vs SEC match up week in the next few years, so obviously to Nation has an interest or the network wouldn’t put the schedule together. Yet some on here act like they don’t understand why people are paying attention?
 
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I was talking about regular season games.

Pre super conference is a different discussion. For so many years, the east sucked. Georgia could just beat the piss out of their division cause getting to face down teams of Tennessee and Florida then have SC, Kentucky, and Vandy as automatic wins with OOC schedules like UT Martin, Ball State, and UAB (I'm referencing 2023 just as an example), isn't a crazy grind. Now the west had more of an argument with Bama, LSU, Auburn, and Ole Miss sometimes. Those teams are typically good but the conference was always top heavy where it's about two really good teams and then everything under is nothing special.

Texas and Oklahoma coming to the conference and adding more SEC games with no divison makes it a different argument *throw in the NIL/portal stuff and it's even crazier) but still, no one in the SEC has looked amazing this year. No one looks amazing in the entire sport. Probably the first time in forever that many can say that.

When Va Tech and Miami were brought in, that looked like it would be a solid football conference. That hasn't really worked out as times changed. My point is- just by default being in the SEC doesn't make you good or your schedule tough. Texas is a perfect example of that this year. They don't have a single win over a current ranked team this season.

The east didn't suck. Georgia just dominated all of college football except bama. Mizzou was good. Uk was good. UT was good. The only difference is vandy was a gimme.

I didn't say just being in the sec makes a team better. Going through the sec though, definitely has an impact. So the caliber of s team that starts and that ends can be two different teams.

The other impact is no games off. An off game doesn't hurt you in most conferences. It costs you in the sec. Just look at uk vs sc. Uk was the better team but some bad plays, bad play calls, and an injury wrecked the game which hurt the season. One play away a few other games too. If uk plays ul with 8 wins, thats a drastically different game.

The sec is a meat grinder physically and mentally. With the portal, you have guys just sitting out the first time something goes wrong. Our RT last year is a prime example.
 
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I don’t understand why so many care enough to comment negatively about conference pride, just move along.

The main reason I love SEC teams winning is that pointing it out pisses off other conferences, and fans . . . simply because they are NOT SEC programs.

Just look at this thread!!

And it is advertising for the cost of NOTHING!.

That SEC chant is played on the SEC network for a reason!!

Nothing breed$ Succe$$ quite like does $ucce$$.
 
Naw just proud to be part of best conferene in America regardless of sport and as a Southener proud to support my southern brothers there too when pitted against others. Simple as that.

Yes.

Those who feign a lack of understanding are simply minimizing what they do not have: a wealthy, successful, geographically cohesive conference.

The SEC is the last of it’s kind, and was always the best!!
 
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It is just a way to either validate a winning or losing season. That is all the conference chest pounding amounts to.

The reality when Clemson, FSU and back in the day Miami (Best East) won titles they were really good. Same goes for Alabama-Georgia. All these teams would be good-great in whatever conference they played in.
Miami dominated college football in the Big East. The SEC is the best conference but it is being carried by Georgia, LSU and Alabama last ten years.
 
It is just a way to either validate a winning or losing season. That is all the conference chest pounding amounts to.

The reality when Clemson, FSU and back in the day Miami (Best East) won titles they were really good. Same goes for Alabama-Georgia. All these teams would be good-great in whatever conference they played in.
Miami dominated college football in the Big East. The SEC is the best conference but it is being carried by Georgia, LSU and Alabama last ten years.

Been lots of years I could say the SEC was without question the top conference in college football. Not sure I can say that today. Bama and S Carolina were 2 of the biggest whiners about be left out of the playoffs, but were beaten by 2 middle of the pack Big teams yesterday hard to say that right now. Oregon, OSU and Michigan are spending more on NIL than anyone outside of the state of Texas. They are basically identifying who they want and buying the ones that have NIL as a major priority.
 
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Been lots of years I could say the SEC was without question the top conference in college football. Not sure I can say that today. Bama and S Carolina were 2 of the biggest whiners about be left out of the playoffs, but were beaten by 2 middle of the pack Big teams yesterday hard to say that right now. Oregon, OSU and Michigan are spending more on NIL than anyone outside of the state of Texas. They are basically identifying who they want and buying the ones that have NIL as a major priority.

The B1G was the best conference this year. Both the SEC and B1G were not as good in the middle as in past years, but their middles are bigger than ever and still better than the other conferences. The SEC was not far behind the B1G and then there is a significant drop off to the other conferences. Notre Dame has to be scared silly of losing to a UGA team that was not dominant this year and is playing with a puppy QB. If ND played in the SEC or B1G, they would not be in the playoff.
 
Are you really bragging about beating an FSU team that had all but 2 starters opt out? Lol

In one of the best seasons UL had in a long long time, FSU beat UL without its QB. Had UL won, UL fans would have delusionally thought their team should be in the playoffs, even after taking the loss to a mediocre UK team. So, keep it all in perspective.
 
Imo it doesn't mean anything now.

The acc is still hot garbage. UK would constantly challenge to win that league. Its beyond terrible. Its literally mid major football.
We struggle to compete with mid majors. We got pounded- and I mean curb stomped- by louisville, which pains me to even type. We have gained nothing meaningful in the transfer portal, and that program is passing us by. Louisville did not win the ACC.
I sat in the stands for every one of those home losses this season. Our players are emotionless- the energy on our sideline is the worst I have seen. Stoops has lost his players- we have to turn this thing around- I hope that we are going to do something special the rest of the way in the portal.
 
One thing specifically to note in terms of conferences, the top b10 seems way ahead on nil. Sure seems like theyre way outpacing sec schools.

Something to watch in the near future.

The other way b10 is better managing nil, is they seem to better get their guys to care more beyond just the nil.

Our players are emotionless- the energy on our sideline is the worst I have seen. Stoops has lost his players- we have to turn this thing around- I hope that we are going to do something special the rest of the way in the portal.

I agree with this. Stoops tried buying a team and it didn't work.
 
The B1G was the best conference this year. Both the SEC and B1G were not as good in the middle as in past years, but their middles are bigger than ever and still better than the other conferences. The SEC was not far behind the B1G and then there is a significant drop off to the other conferences. Notre Dame has to be scared silly of losing to a UGA team that was not dominant this year and is playing with a puppy QB. If ND played in the SEC or B1G, they would not be in the playoff.

I think the Big has 2 excellent teams, a very good team and 2-4 good reams. I think all of them would win alot of games in SEC.
 
I agree with this. Stoops tried buying a team and it didn't work.

He seems to be changing his approach this year. Instead of looking at backups on traditional powers, he seems to be taking the Mark Pope approach. Looking for players who excelled at a lower level and who probably dreamed of the SEC and transfer with a chip on their shoulders. The P4 players he is taking seem to be guys who have actually started or are young with untapped potential.

The rest is not directed at Insanity.

The bitching and moaning from fans is typical. The fact is no goofball on this board knows what will transpire. We see a lot of silly “I hope I am wrong” comments, because fans who stick around through success they did not predict can simply say they are happily eating crow. How about they happily take a break of about a year from posting, rather than pretend they understand how next year will play?

The fact is that Stoops knows where he stands and has an idea where he needs to be looking at a daunting schedule. It will play out without giving trolls and whiners any moment now.

Debating next season is for fools. Yes, it is a message board for fools. So, continue.
 
huge difference in college and pro's
in college if your conference wins you get paid
you should always look at the big picture
with that said i will never root for Tennesse
Man, I don't know. It would be a hard choice Tennessee vs Louisville. I would probably want the stadium to collapse or both teams forfeit because of improprieties.
 
Debating next season is for fools. Yes, it is a message board for fools. So, continue.

The most realistic post I have seen in ages. As to the fools who post most frequently, I’ll be your huckle-bearer!

I seriously doubt any Arizona State fans thought preseason they would both make the playoffs and look pretty good doing so.

We live in the least predictable environment of college athletics that has ever existed. Yes, the traditional Top 10 teams will generally prosper, but even that is a slippery statement: just ask Oklahoma!

I very reasonably thought our modestly improved recruiting rankings from 2020-2023, along with pretty impressive transfers would at least keep the program from slipping below 7/8 wins.

Now some are bemoaning being outspent on NIL, etc. Yet for months of discussion, I have seen no reliable numbers of just how badly we are being outspent.

And if we hover at the 20/25th recruiting class and are around Top 20 in Transfer rankings, I suspect without specific knowledge we are 20/25th in NIL spending.

And I think 9-4 USCe is below our level of NIL spending.
 
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