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The championships that perhaps got away

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What seasons/games could we really have had another championship if just a little something had been different.

66 Sick players?
70 Casey injury?
75 Wooden curtain call announcement blah
93 Fab Five was a touch matchup. Squeak by in OT and I think we beat UNC.
95 If we beat UNC I think we win but this one may may need to be taken off
97 one FT Nazr/Anderson injury
03 Bogans injury/Wade ugh
10 horrid shooting/match up well in FF
11 Just get past a hot UConn and Kemba Walker and imo we win
14 just ran out of gas and stupid Shabazz couldn't be stopped
15 just a minor adjustment or two and we win it all imo/Dekker killing us on matchups

From the above, if we would just have gotten 5/11. Wow.
 
What seasons/games could we really have had another championship if just a little something had been different.

66 Sick players?
70 Casey injury?
75 Wooden curtain call announcement blah
93 Fab Five was a touch matchup. Squeak by in OT and I think we beat UNC.
95 If we beat UNC I think we win but this one may may need to be taken off
97 one FT Nazr/Anderson injury
03 Bogans injury/Wade ugh
10 horrid shooting/match up well in FF
11 Just get past a hot UConn and Kemba Walker and imo we win
14 just ran out of gas and stupid Shabazz couldn't be stopped
15 just a minor adjustment or two and we win it all imo/Dekker killing us on matchups

From the above, if we would just have gotten 5/11. Wow.
'14=WCS goes down in Elite 8, JR sprains ankle in final 4 (plays at 50-70% in title game)
'15= Poy Injury
 
You could add last year. It's hard to win it all in the lose-and-go-home tournament. I'd quibble with a few of these, like 1970. Injuries happen to everyone and UCLA was still UCLA. And 2003; that was a fun team, but overrated by UK fans. And 66. The fact is the Cats got beat by a quicker, more physical team. And 1995. But there have been lots of heartbreaking losses to go with the gigantic list of fantastic wins.


It'd be interesting to see the list of might-have-beens other programs could pull together.

For example, take the world's biggest cheaters, UNC: Off the top of my head, they probably should have won -- or at least easily could have won -- in 77, 83 (upset in EE. Would have faced NCState in FF) 84 (Jordan's junior year, ranked No. 1, upset by IU in tournament) 95, 97, 98, 2011, 2012 (Marshall injury) 2016 (Jenkins shot) and I'm sure there are others.

The Kansas list is probably longer, given both Roy's chokes and Self's. For example, 1997 is a might-have-been for Kentucky. But going into that tournament, Kansas was viewed as a huge favorite - almost a lock. After Kansas lost, UNC-Cheats was probably the favorite. So, that year is a might-have-been for at least three programs.

Duke has a long list, including 98, 2000, 2002 and so on.
 
1954-undefeated but not allowed to play our seniors in the tournament
1984-shoot 1-1,000 in 2nd half
1986-LSU 4th time
1988-upset by 6 seed nova in a year 6 seed kansas won it.
2004-overall #1 seed and get got by Nolan Richardson telling UAB all our stuff
 
What seasons/games could we really have had another championship if just a little something had been different.

66 Sick players?
70 Casey injury?
75 Wooden curtain call announcement blah
93 Fab Five was a touch matchup. Squeak by in OT and I think we beat UNC.
95 If we beat UNC I think we win but this one may may need to be taken off
97 one FT Nazr/Anderson injury
03 Bogans injury/Wade ugh
10 horrid shooting/match up well in FF
11 Just get past a hot UConn and Kemba Walker and imo we win
14 just ran out of gas and stupid Shabazz couldn't be stopped
15 just a minor adjustment or two and we win it all imo/Dekker killing us on matchups

From the above, if we would just have gotten 5/11. Wow.

Nice list! I'll go by what I've been around for regarding the years you listed...

1993 - I've only watched that game once. I just remember Ford struggling with his shot and some of the calls that didn't go our way in the second half, especially Mash fouling out, killed us. That Michigan team was legit, talent-wise. Still, definitely one I wish we could get back.

1995 - This one was a legit loss in my book. You can't expect to win when you shoot under 30% for the game. Shots weren't falling and UNC had a good team that year.

1997 - This game will always kill me. DA on the sideline, could he have played? I know he came out and hit the two free throws vs Minnesota two nights before after the tech. I respect Pitino for looking out for his player, but man what could have been! Not to mention Arizona didn't score a single field goal in OT! All free throws. I remember losing my s#it watching essentially all of our starters foul out.

2003 - Bogans rolling his ankle vs Wisconsin...Wisconsin has been ruining Big Blue lives for years! Wade had a game for the ages and honestly I'm not even sure if a two legged Bogans would have helped. Wade was just in a zone that few college basketball players have ever been in. And he chose to be in that zone against us unfortunately. 26 in a row and a stacked team, they absolutely would have won had they not run into Dwyane Wade at the wrong time.

2010 - At the time this was the most painful loss since He Who Shall Not Be Named. Brick after brick, watching our guys struggle with the 1-3-1 and Joe Mazzulla having his way with our team. Easily one of the most frustrating 40 minutes of basketball ever. Knowing the talent that was on that floor, three franchise players (Wall, Boogie, Bledsoe) plus a solid rotation guy in PPatt. That team and that game is one that will forever hurt.

2011 - Terrence Jones going 0-5 from the free throw for the game is probably the most infuriating. When Knight's first two shots came up short I knew we were in trouble. Considering we had knocked off both OSU and UNC who were probably both better teams then us, I can't get that mad. But then again, UCONN was a one man wrecking crew with Kemba and we should have beat them. They smacked us around earlier in the year which should have been enough motivation to end their season and then dust off Butler for our 8th title.

2014 - Again, we were playing a bit with house money. But so was UCONN. Two teams hit their stride at the right time. We probably rode the greatest revenge tour I've seen that March. Knocking off an undefeated team, ending Ricky P's season, game winners vs Michigan and Wiscy. Shabazz and Boatwright were just too much. Not to mention losing Willie inside and Randle cramping up the entire game. Ugh, this one hurts more now that I start thinking about it.

2015 - This is the mother of upsets. The most difficult loss as a UK fan I've ever endured. I was in Indy, had tickets for Monday night. Sitting at a bar downtown with my closest of friends. We had bought our tickets to the title game on Selection Sunday. To go there and feel the weight of that loss. The first loss since losing to UCONN the year before. Pain of astronomical proportions. A lot of people point to Poy being out and thinking he could have guarded Dekker, perhaps not allowed him to hit that three from the top of the key. Or the Nigel Hayes shot after the shot clock. Ultimately we ran into the one team in the nation who could bang with us that year. If we played them 10 more times I think we win all 10. But they knocked us in the mouth and instead of feeding Karl, we went to Willie who ended up with 2 and 5 that game. The twins were on the court while Booker and Ulis sat on the bench. We only took 5 three point attempts for the game. There are so many things Cal probably looks at that occurred during that game that he would change. We had our shot at immortality. And we came up short.
 
What seasons/games could we really have had another championship if just a little something had been different.

66 Sick players?
70 Casey injury?
75 Wooden curtain call announcement blah
93 Fab Five was a touch matchup. Squeak by in OT and I think we beat UNC.
95 If we beat UNC I think we win but this one may may need to be taken off
97 one FT Nazr/Anderson injury
03 Bogans injury/Wade ugh
10 horrid shooting/match up well in FF
11 Just get past a hot UConn and Kemba Walker and imo we win
14 just ran out of gas and stupid Shabazz couldn't be stopped
15 just a minor adjustment or two and we win it all imo/Dekker killing us on matchups

From the above, if we would just have gotten 5/11. Wow.
In '93 Michigan's ass was beat if Dale Brown doesn't go down w/ the injury. He was playing fearless at the time and on his way to a beast of a game, and Mich. had no answer for him. That and Mash picking up fouls 4 and 5 on ticky-tack calls that shouldn't have been made. That team was a juggernaut--I've never seen before or since such a devastating tourney run to the Final 4. Those were 2 good (ACC) teams that we annihilated in the Sweet 16 and Elite 8. I'm still stunned that that team didn't hang #6 for us...
 
You could add last year. It's hard to win it all in the lose-and-go-home tournament. I'd quibble with a few of these, like 1970. Injuries happen to everyone and UCLA was still UCLA. And 2003; that was a fun team, but overrated by UK fans. And 66. The fact is the Cats got beat by a quicker, more physical team. And 1995. But there have been lots of heartbreaking losses to go with the gigantic list of fantastic wins.


It'd be interesting to see the list of might-have-beens other programs could pull together.

For example, take the world's biggest cheaters, UNC: Off the top of my head, they probably should have won -- or at least easily could have won -- in 77, 83 (upset in EE. Would have faced NCState in FF) 84 (Jordan's junior year, ranked No. 1, upset by IU in tournament) 95, 97, 98, 2011, 2012 (Marshall injury) 2016 (Jenkins shot) and I'm sure there are others.

The Kansas list is probably longer, given both Roy's chokes and Self's. For example, 1997 is a might-have-been for Kentucky. But going into that tournament, Kansas was viewed as a huge favorite - almost a lock. After Kansas lost, UNC-Cheats was probably the favorite. So, that year is a might-have-been for at least three programs.

Duke has a long list, including 98, 2000, 2002 and so on.

Can't use "should have or easily could have" with 2012 UNC. Is this Jay Bilas? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
You could add last year. It's hard to win it all in the lose-and-go-home tournament. I'd quibble with a few of these, like 1970. Injuries happen to everyone and UCLA was still UCLA. And 2003; that was a fun team, but overrated by UK fans. And 66. The fact is the Cats got beat by a quicker, more physical team. And 1995. But there have been lots of heartbreaking losses to go with the gigantic list of fantastic wins.


It'd be interesting to see the list of might-have-beens other programs could pull together.

For example, take the world's biggest cheaters, UNC: Off the top of my head, they probably should have won -- or at least easily could have won -- in 77, 83 (upset in EE. Would have faced NCState in FF) 84 (Jordan's junior year, ranked No. 1, upset by IU in tournament) 95, 97, 98, 2011, 2012 (Marshall injury) 2016 (Jenkins shot) and I'm sure there are others.

The Kansas list is probably longer, given both Roy's chokes and Self's. For example, 1997 is a might-have-been for Kentucky. But going into that tournament, Kansas was viewed as a huge favorite - almost a lock. After Kansas lost, UNC-Cheats was probably the favorite. So, that year is a might-have-been for at least three programs.

Duke has a long list, including 98, 2000, 2002 and so on.

It is pure myth that UNC would have won in '12 with a healthy pg. And one that irritates the hell out of me.

Unc was as soft as a baby's ass in 2012. They were talented with very little alpha mixed. Kentucky was better on paper and also beat them head to head. We were better at nearly every position.

Let it die. That crap was started by UNC and Bilas and was never true.
 
Nice list! I'll go by what I've been around for regarding the years you listed...

1993 - I've only watched that game once. I just remember Ford struggling with his shot and some of the calls that didn't go our way in the second half, especially Mash fouling out, killed us. That Michigan team was legit, talent-wise. Still, definitely one I wish we could get back.

1995 - This one was a legit loss in my book. You can't expect to win when you shoot under 30% for the game. Shots weren't falling and UNC had a good team that year.

1997 - This game will always kill me. DA on the sideline, could he have played? I know he came out and hit the two free throws vs Minnesota two nights before after the tech. I respect Pitino for looking out for his player, but man what could have been! Not to mention Arizona didn't score a single field goal in OT! All free throws. I remember losing my s#it watching essentially all of our starters foul out.

2003 - Bogans rolling his ankle vs Wisconsin...Wisconsin has been ruining Big Blue lives for years! Wade had a game for the ages and honestly I'm not even sure if a two legged Bogans would have helped. Wade was just in a zone that few college basketball players have ever been in. And he chose to be in that zone against us unfortunately. 26 in a row and a stacked team, they absolutely would have won had they not run into Dwyane Wade at the wrong time.

2010 - At the time this was the most painful loss since He Who Shall Not Be Named. Brick after brick, watching our guys struggle with the 1-3-1 and Joe Mazzulla having his way with our team. Easily one of the most frustrating 40 minutes of basketball ever. Knowing the talent that was on that floor, three franchise players (Wall, Boogie, Bledsoe) plus a solid rotation guy in PPatt. That team and that game is one that will forever hurt.

2011 - Terrence Jones going 0-5 from the free throw for the game is probably the most infuriating. When Knight's first two shots came up short I knew we were in trouble. Considering we had knocked off both OSU and UNC who were probably both better teams then us, I can't get that mad. But then again, UCONN was a one man wrecking crew with Kemba and we should have beat them. They smacked us around earlier in the year which should have been enough motivation to end their season and then dust off Butler for our 8th title.

2014 - Again, we were playing a bit with house money. But so was UCONN. Two teams hit their stride at the right time. We probably rode the greatest revenge tour I've seen that March. Knocking off an undefeated team, ending Ricky P's season, game winners vs Michigan and Wiscy. Shabazz and Boatwright were just too much. Not to mention losing Willie inside and Randle cramping up the entire game. Ugh, this one hurts more now that I start thinking about it.

2015 - This is the mother of upsets. The most difficult loss as a UK fan I've ever endured. I was in Indy, had tickets for Monday night. Sitting at a bar downtown with my closest of friends. We had bought our tickets to the title game on Selection Sunday. To go there and feel the weight of that loss. The first loss since losing to UCONN the year before. Pain of astronomical proportions. A lot of people point to Poy being out and thinking he could have guarded Dekker, perhaps not allowed him to hit that three from the top of the key. Or the Nigel Hayes shot after the shot clock. Ultimately we ran into the one team in the nation who could bang with us that year. If we played them 10 more times I think we win all 10. But they knocked us in the mouth and instead of feeding Karl, we went to Willie who ended up with 2 and 5 that game. The twins were on the court while Booker and Ulis sat on the bench. We only took 5 three point attempts for the game. There are so many things Cal probably looks at that occurred during that game that he would change. We had our shot at immortality. And we came up short.

Of all the possible ones that keep coming up is the 2003 run when Bogans hurt his ankle. The myth is we would have won it had he not been hurt. I just don't see it Even with a healthy Bogans we still don't win.

Can we put this one to rest and take it off the list of possibles?
 
It is pure myth that UNC would have won in '12 with a healthy pg. And one that irritates the hell out of me.

Unc was as soft as a baby's ass in 2012. They were talented with very little alpha mixed. Kentucky was better on paper and also beat them head to head. We were better at nearly every position.

Let it die. That crap was started by UNC and Bilas and was never true.

That UNC team got blasted that same year by FSU by 30+ points.

I'm sorry, but you can't get blasted by 30+ in the regular season and say "we should have won it that year". I mean they got absolutely raped by FSU that year on the road
 
It is pure myth that UNC would have won in '12 with a healthy pg. And one that irritates the hell out of me.

Unc was as soft as a baby's ass in 2012. They were talented with very little alpha mixed. Kentucky was better on paper and also beat them head to head. We were better at nearly every position.

Let it die. That crap was started by UNC and Bilas and was never true.

Yeah pardon me for not fearing a team
that lost by 31 to Florida State.

UK went 4-0 against that year's F4 and 9-0 against that year's E8. Think about that for a second.
 
Great thread even if the topic is painful.

My all time worst is 2010 by a nose over 2015. The 2015 was leaking a little oil prior to the Wisconsin game but 2010 was murdering people. The is zero doubt if they beat WV they win the title that year. That team was so effing good. That game will forever haunt me.
 
It is pure myth that UNC would have won in '12 with a healthy pg. And one that irritates the hell out of me.

Unc was as soft as a baby's ass in 2012. They were talented with very little alpha mixed. Kentucky was better on paper and also beat them head to head. We were better at nearly every position.

Let it die. That crap was started by UNC and Bilas and was never true.

And Bilas still brings it up. What a chump.
 
Of all the possible ones that keep coming up is the 2003 run when Bogans hurt his ankle. The myth is we would have won it had he not been hurt. I just don't see it Even with a healthy Bogans we still don't win.

Can we put this one to rest and take it off the list of possibles?

No. We finished first in Kenpom, even with the loss to Marquette.

What's so far-fetched about the best team, when healthy, winning the Title?
 
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In '93 Michigan's ass was beat if Dale Brown doesn't go down w/ the injury. He was playing fearless at the time and on his way to a beast of a game, and Mich. had no answer for him. That and Mash picking up fouls 4 and 5 on ticky-tack calls that shouldn't have been made. That team was a juggernaut--I've never seen before or since such a devastating tourney run to the Final 4. Those were 2 good (ACC) teams that we annihilated in the Sweet 16 and Elite 8. I'm still stunned that that team didn't hang #6 for us...

This is my favorite UK team of all time even though they didn't win it all. I was in sixth grade and Mash was my first ever athlete hero. I cried my eyes out when they lost to Michigan.

That 93 squad was great all year, but they got rolling after losing at UT late in the year on that BS intentionally missed free-throw/and 1. After losing at UT, that team beat its next 10 opponents by an average of 25.5 ppg with winning margins of 61, 44 and 34 and 25 - all postseason games. In the tourney, Utah gave us the best game of any team before the FF, only getting beat by 21. The early (and constant) decimation of Wake in the Sweet 16 was a sight to behold.

The blizzard SEC tourney at Rupp was awesome too. I was lucky enough to get to see us crush UT 101-40.
 
You could add last year. It's hard to win it all in the lose-and-go-home tournament. I'd quibble with a few of these, like 1970. Injuries happen to everyone and UCLA was still UCLA. And 2003; that was a fun team, but overrated by UK fans. And 66. The fact is the Cats got beat by a quicker, more physical team. And 1995. But there have been lots of heartbreaking losses to go with the gigantic list of fantastic wins.


It'd be interesting to see the list of might-have-beens other programs could pull together.

For example, take the world's biggest cheaters, UNC: Off the top of my head, they probably should have won -- or at least easily could have won -- in 77, 83 (upset in EE. Would have faced NCState in FF) 84 (Jordan's junior year, ranked No. 1, upset by IU in tournament) 95, 97, 98, 2011, 2012 (Marshall injury) 2016 (Jenkins shot) and I'm sure there are others.

The Kansas list is probably longer, given both Roy's chokes and Self's. For example, 1997 is a might-have-been for Kentucky. But going into that tournament, Kansas was viewed as a huge favorite - almost a lock. After Kansas lost, UNC-Cheats was probably the favorite. So, that year is a might-have-been for at least three programs.

Duke has a long list, including 98, 2000, 2002 and so on.
On paper, UK was right there with Duke for best team in the country that year, preseason. Honestly, UK probably had more talent, top to bottom, healthy. Of course that was before the injuries and drama began. That Team Turmoil team took Duke to OT in December of that season, IIRC. Jay Williams had arguably the best game of his career at Duke to barely squeak by us in OT. That was even after the injuries and drama. Ended up losing to the eventual national champ, Maryland, in the Sweet Sixteen by like four points I believe. I remember being excited as hell about that team all off-season. What a waste of a potentially great team.
 
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Add 1980 to the list; if Anderson doesn't get kicked off the team we win instead of UL that year. Also should've won in 1977 but we got off to a bad start against UNC and couldn't recover against the 'Faux Corners" offense.
 
The'93 team was playing crazy good heading into the Final Four against Michigan.

Brown gets hurt, Mashburn fouls out, and we lose in ot.

For some reason, that one bothers me more than any other.
 
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In 66 there were injuries. Conley was battling the flu and Riley had infected big toe. In 2003 the Bogans injury did cost us IMHO. Not only would we have gotten a few more points from that position, but Wade probably gets a few less. It messed up our defensive rotations. Wade going off didn't beat us, it was Novak having a career day. Hayes would have been on him instead of Wade if no Bogans injury.
 
In 66 there were injuries. Conley was battling the flu and Riley had infected big toe. In 2003 the Bogans injury did cost us IMHO. Not only would we have gotten a few more points from that position, but Wade probably gets a few less. It messed up our defensive rotations. Wade going off didn't beat us, it was Novak having a career day. Hayes would have been on him instead of Wade if no Bogans injury.
Bogans is 4th on the all-time scoring list and was an All-American in 2003. He was the heart and soul of that team and anyone saying that his injury did not matter is not looking at facts. Heck, he had a 13 year NBA career. The guy was a monster.

Your best player averaging 15.7 points, 3.8 rebounds, 2.7 assists, and 1.2 steals being injured IS the main reason they did not make a run to the title game that season.
 
What seasons/games could we really have had another championship if just a little something had been different.

66 Sick players?
70 Casey injury?
75 Wooden curtain call announcement blah
93 Fab Five was a touch matchup. Squeak by in OT and I think we beat UNC.
95 If we beat UNC I think we win but this one may may need to be taken off
97 one FT Nazr/Anderson injury
03 Bogans injury/Wade ugh
10 horrid shooting/match up well in FF
11 Just get past a hot UConn and Kemba Walker and imo we win
14 just ran out of gas and stupid Shabazz couldn't be stopped
15 just a minor adjustment or two and we win it all imo/Dekker killing us on matchups

From the above, if we would just have gotten 5/11. Wow.

True. But you could also argue we were far from the favorite in 98. And although we were the favorite (1A) in 12, UNC had to be 1B and if not for an injury to their starting PG we might have missed on that one. I don't know enough about our team's and the competition in our first 5 championship years to guage those. But I do know outside of UCLA and their incredible 12 year run, we have had the best success rate of turning Final 4's into Titles.


I wouldn't include 95 in that list. But I think you could add the 84 team, 3-for-33. And what about the team in the mid-late 50's that was undefeated but not allowed to play in the tournament because we had graduate students who did not get to play their SR year due to the point-shaving scandal.
 
The'93 team was playing crazy good heading into the Final Four against Michigan.

Brown gets hurt, Mashburn fouls out, and we lose in ot.

For some reason, that one bothers me more than any other.

I was at the Sweet 16 game where we dismantled a good Wake Forest team, that game was over 10 minutes in. I think Pitino could have put the walkons in for the entire 2nd half and felt pretty confident.
 
Yeah, that 93 team was a juggernaut. Never forget Jalen Rose bringing the ball up the court on the last possession of regulation and he ran right over Delk. Pimptino on the sidelines clapping, thinking we were gonna get the charge called. Never happened.
 
2005 Double OT vs Michigan St. (Never know with the inside out combo we had)

2011 UConn (terrible shooting night)

2015 Wisconsin (Enough said)

2017 UNC (We had the better team)

These are a few games that I personally feel that, if won, win the NC. (Obviuosly the final in 2011).

These also happen to be games officiated by one John Higgins. 3 of the games I have high confidence in the Cats winning the NC with a victory. (Not as convinced with the 05 team). Those three also happen to have been shining examples of atrocious officiating.

At least in my eyes, one man has single-handedly prevented the Cats from hoisting three additional trophies. Without Higgins terrible officiating the Cats probably have 11 titles, with a fair shot at 12!
 
Can someone find the gif of Miller not touching Napier? With Higgins right there?

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Truly one of the worst calls I've ever seen. It doesn't compare to 2015, though. The second we lost to Wisconsin my whole view on sports changed. I never thought a loss could make me feel as shitty as that one, and I'll never feel as bad after the Cats lose again.

What you said is one of the best things I've read on this board. So true. We lose now and I'm not as upset. Because that Wisconsin game was just crushing.
 
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