Switching completely out of control on this team

[CUT-NETS]

Which coach would like to have that gives UK a better chance to win more titles? Name him.

Where did I say I wanted someone else to coach so we could win titles? All I talked about was making some adjustments. Tightening some stuff up. That's the job of a coach afterall. God you are a baby. I talk about making some changes defensively and all of a sudden im saying I want a different coach? Get some thicker skin. Cal's philosophy on guarding ball screens has always left much to be desired. I don't think saying that means that anyone wants a different coach.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

Actually you're right, UK was not as good defensively as Duke last year.....when it counted. Duke was putrid last season defensively at the beginning of the year. Then Coach K made "changes" and they got substantially better. By the NCAA tournament they were playing their best defense, where as we had regressed. Wisconsin beat us and Duke beat Wisconsin.

wow thanks for taking the time to type that out you have a lot of insight

 

[Comebakatz3]

Ok, you don't see Cal's defense as the best. That's why I mentioned the 4 of 5 final four and the NC games. Makes your argument seem pretty weak.

Yes, we can always get better. And yes, this is a message board to discuss UK. But it just gets a little tiring the hear people that MAY have played a little HS BB and played zone, think they know better than our HOF, NC winning coach.

You're right... it certainly doesn't help my argument. However, I'm not really making an argument. I'm having a discussion. I'm not over here trying to convince Coach Cal to change defenses. I would never presume to do so. I'm here having a discussion with other fans about whether they think the defense we use is the most effective one. That doesn't mean anything will change. It's just a friendly discussion. Doesn't mean that I think I know more than Cal.

The discussion of why we run this defense and why it works is welcomed. It educates fans and it gives us something to do. It is kind of the point of the message board. However, the 'Cal is perfect' line of reasoning really doesn't add anything. If we all took that stance then this wouldn't be much of a discussion board at all.

Also, just because this defense worked for some of the teams does not mean it is the most suitable defense for every team. So, technically, his past results do not mean that it is the best defense for this team (and no I am not saying Cal is wrong).

Last thing... no one wants a different coach and just because we might have small criticisms of Cal does not mean that we want a wholesale change.

 

[Cawood86]

Where did I say I wanted someone else to coach so we could win titles? All I talked about was making some adjustments. Tightening some stuff up. That's the job of a coach afterall. God you are a baby. I talk about making some changes defensively and all of a sudden im saying I want a different coach? Get some thicker skin. Cal's philosophy on guarding ball screens has always left much to be desired. I don't think saying that means that anyone wants a different coach.

Exactly what I thought. You have no answer. You just spew out stupidity then get offended if someone calls you on it. There's no better coach in the country than Cal. Yet you whine and cry all the time about this and that. Gimme a break. UK has never had this type of success with anyone not named Rupp.

 

[uk_fan_in_tn]

The use of Hawkins in this game was very puzzling. Mulder has played pretty solid when he has been in games, especially when he goes up after rebounds and hustles. He might not be a lock down defender, but he's done solid, and he at least provides some sort of an offensive threat. Hawkins adds very little on offense and hasn't played in weeks. If Mulder shoots some of the threes that Hawkins took then the game may have looked a lot different, and I am willing to bet that Mulder grabs more than 1 rebound. Where this was particularly puzzling was when Skal fouled out and we put in Hawkins for him.

This was the most questionable thing of that game, IMO. It was as if we were depending on Hawkins to make plays offensively and that's just not his game. Mulder is a better offensive player and has shown his ability to rebound. I don't understand how he doesn't see any time. Sometimes, Cal's strict 7-8 man rotation plays to a fault. Haven't seen Tai Wynyard play, but I have to assume he'd have more rebounds than Skal if given the opportunity.

 

[CUT-NETS]

Exactly what I thought. You have no answer. You just spew out stupidity then get offended if someone calls you on it. There's no better coach in the country than Cal. Yet you whine and cry all the time about this and that. Gimme a break. UK has never had this type of success with anyone not named Rupp.

There's no better coach in the country than Cal? So you are saying his offensive philosophies are the best in the country? His defensive philosophies are the best in the country? So he is better than anyone at those?

 

[uksam21]

Actually you're right, UK was not as good defensively as Duke last year.....when it counted. Duke was putrid last season defensively at the beginning of the year. Then Coach K made "changes" and they got substantially better. By the NCAA tournament they were playing their best defense, where as we had regressed. Wisconsin beat us and Duke beat Wisconsin.

I got an idea go root for Duke!

 

[Comebakatz3]

This was the most questionable thing of that game, IMO. It was as if we were depending on Hawkins to make plays offensively and that's just not his game. Mulder is a better offensive player and has shown his ability to rebound. I don't understand how he doesn't see any time. Sometimes, Cal's strict 7-8 man rotation plays to a fault. Haven't seen Tai Wynyard play, but I have to assume he'd have more rebounds than Skal if given the opportunity.

I think Tai doesn't play because he just isn't ready to do so defensively. That's understandable. However, I would think that he would have seen time against Missouri. Since he didn't it leads me to believe that he has a long way to go and he won't play this year at all.

The Hawkins decision throughout the game was a puzzling one. I understand he plays solid defense, but this was a weird game to re-introduce him into the rotation. Matthews plays some solid defense and gives us a good rebounding option, but he only played 2 minutes. Mulder is probably not as great on defense, but he does give us the ability to score from the three point line and gives us some excellent rebounding. Mulder has pulled down 23 rebounds in just 76 minutes of play. Compare that to Hawkins who has 98 minutes and 6 rebounds or Matthews who has 254 minutes and 33 rebounds. Hawkins played 15 minutes in the game, more than both Skal and Lee.

If you can put Hawkins into the game to give a defensive boost and not interrupt the offense then I think it is a good thing, but Hawkins seemed to play a lot in this game and it was at the times when our offense was struggling. Would have liked to have seen Mulder in there to get us some rebounds, especially on defense, and to possibly knock down some of those threes (even though he isn't shooting particularly well this year).

 

[Cawood86]

There's no better coach in the country than Cal? So you are saying his offensive philosophies are the best in the country? His defensive philosophies are the best in the country? So he is better than anyone at those?

Yes. Please list who you think is better.

 

[CUT-NETS]

Yes. Please list who you think is better.

Cal is the best in terms of total package (recruiting, marketing, motivating, molding a team, handling the press, promoting, etc).

I dare say he is the best offensive and defensive coach in the country. I don't think you will find one person on this board who thinks like you do, that Cal is the best offensive and defensive coach in the country. I might see defensive based on his teams defensive rankings in the past, but he is far from one of the best offensive minds in college basketball. But because you do think he is the best, I now have a better idea of the type of fan/poster im conversing with.

 

[Mike-D]

Oh look, it's Cut-Nets posting the same shit in a different thread again. Nothing to see here.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

what's frustrating is people who won't shut up about it

Buddy, you're more than welcome to log out.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

The best defensive teams switch out. Virginia is known for being one of the top defensive teams and they switch as well. You do this when all of your positions can technically guard all of their positions. If a smaller guard is up against a taller player in the post, you get weak-side help from a post-up player since they usually have to throw the ball over the smaller guard to get it to the taller post up player. When played right, it is very effective. Murray has a problem with the switching and ends up watching the ball too much, leaving his man for a backcut or him losing his man altogether.

You are correct. However, you also have to have the personnel to be effective and if coaches are using it as a strategy against you, you have to adjust.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

the NPOY, on the best statistical offense of the last 15 years, got a favorable matchup off switches in a game last year

so forget that uk was the best defensive team ever

clearly cal has to go back to the drawing board

I think you missed the sarcasm train buddy.

 

[Cawood86]

Cal is the best in terms of total package (recruiting, marketing, motivating, molding a team, handling the press, promoting, etc).

I dare say he is the best offensive and defensive coach in the country. I don't think you will find one person on this board who thinks like you do, that Cal is the best offensive and defensive coach in the country. I might see defensive based on his teams defensive rankings in the past, but he is far from one of the best offensive minds in college basketball. But because you do think he is the best, I now have a better idea of the type of fan/poster im conversing with.

Lemme guess you think Pitino is better. So you Cal is good at everything but coaching? Good grief man. Still didn't see you list who you think is better. Why is that?

 

[JohnnyGentle]

Buddy, you're more than welcome to log out.

i have a few suggestions for you

buddy

 

[JohnnyGentle]

I think you missed the sarcasm train buddy.

the irony train flattened you

rip

buddy

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

the irony train flattened you

rip

buddy

Hahahahahaaa!!! That's a good one. I'm going to have to write that one down.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

i have a few suggestions for you

buddy

This will be interesting.

 

[KDcats11]

I see a lot of people are talking to a ghost in this thread.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

The switching was almost as dumb as Cal having Briscoe be the PG the last 10 minutes of the game instead of Ulis. I don't know what the hell he's thinking at times. Problem is he's too stubborn to change during games when things aren't working.

 

[CUT-NETS]

Lemme guess you think Pitino is better. So you Cal is good at everything but coaching? Good grief man. Still didn't see you list who you think is better. Why is that?

Where did I say he was good at everything except coaching? God you're dumb. You originally said that you thought he was the best offensive and defensive coach in the country. All I said was that I didn't think he was. That doesn't mean I don't think he is good at coaching. Sorry, but I don't think Cal is the best offensive minded coach in the country. You'd have to be either A). The biggest homer in the world or B). A dumb ass, to think Cal is the best offensive minded coach in the country. You are likely A and B. God knows you are B for sure.

 

[stuway]

Cut nets and zaytoven bashing Cal again.... Yawn

 

[CUT-NETS]

Cut nets and zaytoven bashing Cal again.... Yawn

Show me where I bashed Cal. If you can show me where I "bashed" Cal I will leave this board forever

 

[mdlUK.1]

The switching was almost as dumb as Cal having Briscoe be the PG the last 10 minutes of the game instead of Ulis. I don't know what the hell he's thinking at times. Problem is he's too stubborn to change during games when things aren't working.

you do realize they were keying their defense on Ullis, right? And that Cal might be taking some of the pressure off Ullis to give him some rest, right?

Gee, if we only had a genius like you on the sidelines. Dws

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Yea lets give Ulis a rest at the time he's needed most. Him moving to SG wasn't a rest. All it did was bog down the offense because nobody would freaking move around to get open and Briscoe has no idea how to run an offense like Tyler.

When nobody moved, Briscoe just put his head down and drove and got fouled. Which is fine if you can hit free throws. When Tyler is running point and nobody moves then he will start moving around and drag defenders until somebody gets open.

This is the 2nd time this year that Cal has made an absolute stupid move later in game that hurt us. The other was having Ulis take the ball out in the game we were being pressed. We had zero trouble getting the ball in or beating the press until Ulis started taking it out. Offense was also flowing until Briscoe started running point on Saturday.

Cal needs to quit trying to be cute or show his haters that he has coaching ability and just make the common sense moves. It's fine to try something but damn if it doesn't work don't keep doing the same shit until you lose. It's that freaking simple.

 

[KyFaninNC]

Some folks are considered stupid. Some folks then speak and remove all doubt.

Exactly, you need to stop posting.

 

[Cawood86]

Where did I say he was good at everything except coaching? God you're dumb. You originally said that you thought he was the best offensive and defensive coach in the country. All I said was that I didn't think he was. That doesn't mean I don't think he is good at coaching. Sorry, but I don't think Cal is the best offensive minded coach in the country. You'd have to be either A). The biggest homer in the world or B). A dumb ass, to think Cal is the best offensive minded coach in the country. You are likely A and B. God knows you are B for sure.

How many posts and you still won't say who you think is better? You are a coward to say who you think is better. No surprise. You said it in your post that he was good at marketing, media, etc. Not coaching. You can't even be honest in what you said. Since you want to get ugly I can see you have no intelligent response, which is typical of someone like you that runs his mouth. If you are so right then name your coach chicken boy. Have some guts. Waiting.
Still pining for Rick? What a joke......

 

[Cawood86]

Exactly, you need to stop posting.

You miss Rick too huh?

 

[CUT-NETS]

You miss Rick too huh?

Translation:

Cawood86: "when im getting served I just accuse posters of being Pitino fans"

 

[SDcatfan13]

Just when you think they're gone, like a bad disease the trolls come back. Wish they would just get banned for good.

 

[CUT-NETS]

How many posts and you still won't say who you think is better? You are a coward to say who you think is better. No surprise. You said it in your post that he was good at marketing, media, etc. Not coaching. You can't even be honest in what you said. Since you want to get ugly I can see you have no intelligent response, which is typical of someone like you that runs his mouth. If you are so right then name your coach chicken boy. Have some guts. Waiting.
Still pining for Rick? What a joke......

Chicken boy? Haha ok man

I'm not the one that thinks Cal is the best offensive mind in coaching. I'm sure it's all your environment. Your circle of people say "Cal's the best coach in basketball" and you automatically assume that means he's the best "offensive mind". I mean he has to be right? He's the best coach in basketball. You see you can't differentiate all the aspects of coaching. In your small mind you hear "best coach in basketball" and for you that constitutes being best offensive mind. I doubt you will find another poster on here who agrees with you that Cal is "the best offensive mind in college basketball". Let's just see if anyone else agrees.

Anyone think Cal is the best offensive mind in basketball?

And it's ok that he's not, he doesn't have to be.

 

[Cawood86]

Translation:

Cawood86: "when im getting served I just accuse posters of being Pitino fans"

Served? Ha..... You're such a scared little boy you won't say who you think is better. You can't say can you. Come on chicken little. Guarantee you won't.

 

[Cawood86]

Chicken boy? Haha ok man

I'm not the one that thinks Cal is the best offensive mind in coaching. I'm sure it's all your environment. Your circle of people say "Cal's the best coach in basketball" and you automatically assume that means he's the best "offensive mind". I mean he has to be right? He's the best coach in basketball. You see you can't differentiate all the aspects of coaching. In your small mind you hear "best coach in basketball" and for you that constitutes being best offensive mind. I doubt you will find another poster on here who agrees with you that Cal is "the best offensive mind in college basketball". Let's just see if anyone else agrees.

Anyone think Cal is the best offensive mind in basketball?

And it's ok that he's not, he doesn't have to be.

Have you no guts at all? Sheesh. This is embarrassing. What? You have to get other folks to throw out names for you so you can latch onto one? I think Cal is the best coach in college basketball. I ain't afraid to say it.

 

[Lexchess]

I also think he is the best coach in basketball, but that doesn't mean Cal is mistake proof.
Everyone, and that includes Hall of Fame coaches, can learn from mistakes.
I will say though, I think Cal will try certain things to see if they are successful, to learn about his team for March runs. There is no argument that his March runs have been special.

 

[CUT-NETS]

X

Have you no guts at all? Sheesh. This is embarrassing. What? You have to get other folks to throw out names for you so you can latch onto one? I think Cal is the best coach in college basketball. I ain't afraid to say it.

Again, is he the best offensive mind in basketball?

 

[KyFaninNC]

You miss Rick too huh?

TROLL!!

 

[Cawood86]

X


Again, is he the best offensive mind in basketball?

I have answered that. You have answered nothing. Either man up and answer or go change your diaper. You won't though. That's what cowards do.

 

[Cawood86]

TROLL!!

you still got his auotgraph in your wallet?

 

[bigbluedon]

What is ridiculous is to say that you know what is the better defense than a coach who is in the HOF and has taken UK to 4 out of the last 5 FF's and won a championship. Is it any wonder some coaches burn out here?

Do you really think Cal reads and worries about the crap put on this board? Gracious.