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Super Bowl Halftime

My favorite rap song of all time is Swimming Pools by Kendrick Lamar. I like a lot of his music and respect him as an artist. That said, I don’t think rap works that well as a halftime show. I think it sounds a lot better produced on albums than live. Not sure who you go with next, but damn, there’s got to be somebody under the age of 40 who can resonate with the majority of fans.
 



Prince still GOAT halftime show. NFL had a run of good shows and I honestly can't remember but a couple recently. Bruno Mars is the last one I remember being impressed with.

The Super Bowl show should try to appeal to the broadest audience. When I went to the Super Bowl, we met fans before the game who spent a big chunk of their money to be at the game to support their team. To have the NFL not try and appeal to the broadest audience is pretty offensive when people are spending money they don’t have. Prince was awesome, but I think it’s probably a good idea to mix a few genre together under some theme.

Matt Jones telling people the show was not geared toward them is pedantic comedy. Oh, REALLY, Matt? Pray tell!
 
My favorite rap song of all time is Swimming Pools by Kendrick Lamar. I like a lot of his music and respect him as an artist. That said, I don’t think rap works that well as a halftime show. I think it sounds a lot better produced on albums than live. Not sure who you go with next, but damn, there’s got to be somebody under the age of 40 who can resonate with the majority of fans.

The NFL should just pay off Bruno Mars' gigantic Vegas debt to get him out of his residency and have him host every year with a rotating set of pop stars (Gaga, Bad Bunny, etc.).

The man is entertaining, can play the music he writes and has an excellent voice/charisma.
 
The Super Bowl show should try to appeal to the broadest audience. When I went to the Super Bowl, we met fans before the game who spent a big chunk of their money to be at the game to support their team. To have the NFL not try and appeal to the broadest audience is pretty offensive when people are spending money they don’t have. Prince was awesome, but I think it’s probably a good idea to mix a few genre together under and theme.

The NFL's goal is to hook the next generation of fans to watch their product. How much a performer at the halftime show really affects that, I'll never know. But I do know the backlash after The Stones performance forced them to get younger performers each and every year after that.

As others have said, hard to pick a performer that a large group of people will dislike, regardless. Still think it shouldn't be rap/hip hop only though.
 
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The NFL should just pay off Bruno Mars' gigantic Vegas debt to get him out of his residency and have him host every year with a rotating set of pop stars (Gaga, Bad Bunny, etc.).

The man is entertaining, can play the music he writes and has an excellent voice/charisma.
I didn’t want anybody to make fun of me for saying it, but Bruno OWNS the SB halftime format. He was perfect for it and still is.
 
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What is there to understand? I don't 'understand' free form jazz or a lot of progressive rock music. I don't understand Mozart's use of secondary dominants and diminished chords to voice lead, but that doesn't mean I can't hear the melody, rhythm and musicality of the musical piece. That doesn't mean I don't identify musical ability. I don't think I'd ever like hip hop. That's not the point. My point is that there is so little musicality involved in the music as to make it virtually indistinguishable from other artists in that genre.


The Jazz crowd always gets screwed by the Super Bowl. Big Band and Bluegrass probably has received more halftime attention than Jazz. Not fair. And, don’t get me started on opera.
 
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Considering the source of that opinion thinks Bruce Springsteen is the GOAT artist and somehow grew up in KY but is a UNC basketball fan, I wouldn't give his opinions much creedence.
Bruce Springsteen is a great example. He would not be famous or have a cult following if he had grown up in Iowa or the Midwest. Just like John Mellencamp. You could flioflop John Mellencamp and Springsteen and get the same result. They would be famous because of being from NY-NJ media blowtorch. Nothing else. Both are awful.
 
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Everybody talking about kl and drake diss tracks just need to play no Vaseline by Cube.

Ice Cube, Dre and Snoop have all showered Kendrick with praise. You could just call it a west coast thing but you'd be hard pressed to find a top 50 rappers of all time list that doesn't have Kendrick top 10.

He's that good, according to some. I just don't like the genre much.
 
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You know. It's too bad Kendrick and Drake are beefing.. because Drake would have been a great complimentary artist who has a ton of radio hits that almost everyone would recognize. I know hes no longer "cool" these days, but thats a hip-hop/pop artist that was at THE top in the late 2000s and 2010s.

And even better if they could bring out ASAP Rocky so the 3 of them could play "f*ckin problems"..

The Sabrina Williams cameo was pretty funny.
 
Serena and SZA are both ex-girlfriends of Drake. As was said in another thread, Drake got called a pedophile by 80,000 people in front of 100 million people while his exes danced along, who had a worse day than that?
 
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Ice Cube, Dre and Snoop have all showered Kendrick with praise. You could just call it a west coast thing but you'd be hard pressed to find a top 50 rappers of all time list that doesn't have Kendrick top 10.

He's that good, according to some. I just don't like the genre much.
I just don't hear anything special from him. Cube, dre, Snoop, pac, biggie, legends. I don't think Lamar will be even close to how revered they are now in 25 years. Of course I might be dead and gone anyway lol.
 
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The NFL should just pay off Bruno Mars' gigantic Vegas debt to get him out of his residency and have him host every year with a rotating set of pop stars (Gaga, Bad Bunny, etc.).

The man is entertaining, can play the music he writes and has an excellent voice/charisma.
I was at the Super Bowl where Bruno Mars and The RedHot Chili Peppers performed. Excellent show.
 
I just don't hear anything special from him. Cube, dre, Snoop, pac, biggie, legends. I don't think Lamar will be even close to how revered they are now in 25 years. If course I might be dead and gone anyway lol.

Again, this isn't my genre but I am a distant observer. The biggest critique that Drake made of Kendrick that actually stuck, I think, is that they don't play his music in the clubs. Kendrick isn't going to do a track like "Drop it Like It's Hot" or "Still Dre". The closest we got was "Not Like Us" and it's the biggest hit of his career.

The people who make a living doing this stuff say his cultural impact, lyricism and message are culturally relevant and what make him so special.

As a rap fan who thinks MF DOOM is the greatest of all time, I can see where Kendrick gets his respect.
 
The Jazz crowd always gets screwed by the Super Bowl. Big Band and Bluegrass probably has received more halftime attention than Jazz. Not fair. And, don’t get me started on opera.
I hope you don't think I want jazz at the SB Halftime - I don't. I know you were being facetious with the others. But, as others stated previously, appealing to a small slice of the viewing audience is not very smart on the SB Halftime planners' part. In the 'Worst Halftime Ever' thread, I posited that the viewing audience average age surely is 45+, which means the target market of the halftime show would reflect that, right? For sure, no more octogenarians. But, there are plenty of artists in the 35-50 year old range who could be cobbled together to do a 14-minute show that might appeal to more than 8% of the viewing audience (if that). At least one would think so.

Again, I don't understand why 'artists' need 50 people around them shaking their naughty bits (Monty Python reference) to play, what, 4 songs? I understand that the SB is supposed to be a spectacle but when every single performer seemingly has a battalion of dancers, it's no longer innovative or interesting.
 
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I hope you don't think I want jazz at the SB Halftime - I don't. I know you were being facetious with the others. But, as others stated previously, appealing to a small slice of the viewing audience is not very smart on the SB Halftime planners' part. In the 'Worst Halftime Ever' thread, I posited that the viewing audience average age surely is 45+, which means the target market of the halftime show would reflect that, right? For sure, no more octogenarians. But, there are plenty of artists in the 35-50 year old range who could be cobbled together to do a 14-minute show that might appeal to more than 8% of the viewing audience (if that). At least one would think so.

Again, I don't understand why 'artists' need 50 people around them shaking their naughty bits (Monty Python reference) to play, what, 4 songs? I understand that the SB is supposed to be a spectacle but when every single performer seemingly has a battalion of dancers, it's no longer innovative or interesting.

I think LineSkiCat nailed this. Live Rap shows are pretty rough. Generally speaking, much of the music sounds the same, there isn't an actual band on the stage and you have to have a bunch of people to break up the monotony of one guy "rapping" for 14 straight minutes with other artists that don't sound the same as the featured artist.

Kendrick was just a bad choice because he's already an eclectic artis who just happened to make his biggest hit because it was also his most commercial.

Honestly, the NFL should just start overlapping artists like they already do. If James Brown can sing It's a Man's World with Pavaratti, we can find a way to get Chris Stapleton, John Mayer and the Roots to collaborate for the Super Bowl.
 
I thought the halftime show was awful. Once I realized I didn’t like it, I simply did something else until the game came back on, problem solved. Kinda watched it for the game, not the halftime show anyway.

I can vaguely recall artists from the past halftime shows but can’t recall a single highlight from any of them except for Janet Jackson flashing her teet.
 
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After sleeping on it and reading about it from people who loved it ...

If you are deep into the Kendrick/Drake drama and Kendrick in general you were able to pick up subtle details that made it amazing.

If you aren't deep into it and you are the average NFL fan it was disappointing. I wouldn't say it was the worst ever, but the target audience was so specific/narrow it was bound to be received poorly. Maybe throwing in one or two more collabs would have helped the average fan like it more.
 
We all know what the halftime show should be, but no one here has the balls to say it.

LIVE JARDIANCE COMMERCIAL

Just picture it ... artists spanning all genres playing their take on the Jardiance song.

Fade from black:
A single spotlight on the stage alights to reveal Beyonce. She waits a few beats for the applause to die down and then sings, a capella, "I have type 2 diabetes and I manage it well."

The band walks down some chords with hits.

Brad Paisley shoots through stage left with his guitar "It's a little pill with a great story to tell.

*guitar solo*

Andrea Bocelli skydives onto the field. "I take once daily Jardiance."

The entire Mormon Tabernacle choir is revealed "AT EACH DAY'S START!!!"

All three singers break into three part harmony for the rest of the song, accompanied by Verdine White on bass.

Suddenly, walking out from beneath the stage, a gaunt 115-pound Lizzo walks out and begins to sing "O-O-OO-OZEM ..." and is promptly kicked in the face and then leg-dropped by Hulk Hogan.

Scene.
 
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Ice Cube, Dre and Snoop have all showered Kendrick with praise.
Could be because he was signed to Aftermath Records and I'm pretty sure Dre has a hand in his private label. My point is, like most things, its about money.

Rap in general is in a bad place. Every musical genre ebbs and flows, but rap has just gone completely still. Kendrick is really the only star left.

On the NFL thing. I'm not going to look this up but didn't the NFL start a policy where the artist has to pay the NFL to appear instead of the other way around. That greatly limits the prospects and thereby lowers the quality of the show.
 
The NFL should just pay off Bruno Mars' gigantic Vegas debt to get him out of his residency and have him host every year with a rotating set of pop stars (Gaga, Bad Bunny, etc.).

The man is entertaining, can play the music he writes and has an excellent voice/charisma.

Your first sentence is false, and he's a dead soldier in terms of massive popularity until he gets new music out. He and AP failed mightily by not having a follow up to their first smash.

Your second sentence is actually correct.
 
Considering the source of that opinion thinks Bruce Springsteen is the GOAT artist and somehow grew up in KY but is a UNC basketball fan, I wouldn't give his opinions much creedence.

Yep....the source is spot on, and given my diverse musical expertise dwarfs most, I will just dismiss your post as blatantly ignorant. Amusing as well.
 
I guess people are tired of Drake getting dissed, but I am not. At the Super Bowl??? With Samuel L Jackson narrating? Lmao.

I agree the actual performance was average, not bad, but it’s the Drake thing that counts. It was a historical moment for rap.

But man how in the ever loving F do you not bring out Master P and a gold tank for a Super Bowl in New Orleans. Fly the Hot Boys in on a helicopter. Something.
 
I guess people are tired of Drake getting dissed, but I am not. At the Super Bowl??? With Samuel L Jackson narrating? Lmao.
You'd probably be shocked by how large the percentage is of Americans who haven't heard about Drake, let alone Kendrick Lamar. My wife had absolutely no idea who Kendrick Lamar was before the Super Bowl (and sure as hell will not be listening to him after, I assure you.)

That was just a terrible niche choice for what should be the most inclusive music event in the world. It reeked of the decision-makers being too online and not understanding their audience.
 
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That halftime was a perfect amazing performance. Kendick is the future of entertainment it is plain to see. JK I didn't understand it at all as a 49 y/o that doesn't get mumble rap.
 
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When you understand that the Halftime Show is going to be someone you'd hear on a NOW THAT'S MUSIC CD, you don't care.

I think maybe I've enjoyed like two halftime shows ever and one of those was the LA rappers at the Bengals/Rams Super Bowl.
 
I guess people are tired of Drake getting dissed, but I am not. At the Super Bowl??? With Samuel L Jackson narrating? Lmao.

I agree the actual performance was average, not bad, but it’s the Drake thing that counts. It was a historical moment for rap.

But man how in the ever loving F do you not bring out Master P and a gold tank for a Super Bowl in New Orleans. Fly the Hot Boys in on a helicopter. Something.

A friend in our college group chat this morning said that Drake has been owned so bad at this point he should change his name to Kunte Kinte.
 
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