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Stoops nearly pleading for money.

So is the rush to defend him. I give Barnhardt his due in that several things he does is good. However....a glaring deficiency in his leadership style is the willingness to accept change. Selling beer was the first example.

Leaders like Mitch get focused on the cost of a potential bad outcome. However they always lose sight that doing nothing is also one of the bad outcomes; and is usually more costly than making an aggressive error in judgement
I am not in a rush. Whatever gave you that idea? My position is consistent, and I say what I say because Barnhart has done a great job. Criticisms on this thread are speculation without information. When Kentucky continues to win, Barnhart's accusers will fade into the background again with no accoubtability. Just watch.
 
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people who rush to defend Barnhart on NIL because of loyalty from past results were probably also demanding Tubby Smith be left alone from criticism & he be allowed to coach UK for decades.

He won a championship! How dare you say his 20-10 seasons aren't good enough!

The football coach he hired won 10 games! How dare you say his NIL policy is backwards and harmful!

Same energy
To whatever extent I defend Barnhart, it is because he has earned it. I never defended Tubby. False equivalency. You manufacture this because it suits your thinking.

I give credit to Tubby for winning a championship because that is exactly what he did, but with an important caveat. Tubby got it done with his predecessor's roster. When Tubby had to replace those players with his own recruits, he brought Bogans and Prince but he could not maintain a recruiting pace to sustain success. Barnhart was right to manage Tubby's departure. Then he made a mistake by hiring Gillispie. Gillispie had the resume, but Barnhart made the mistake of missing Gillispie's alcoholism just like Cliff Hagan had missed Eddie Sutton's alcoholism. Barnhart learned from that mistake and I give credit for that. Learning from mistakes is a characteristic of a good manager. Everyone makes them. His management of Stoops' program has been, at the least, insightful and strong. I see no reason to believe that will change.

What will you say when Kentucky wins again this fall, and Stoops' class turns out to be strong again? Will you post apologies to those you have criticized for no reason?

We just got pledges from Stuart and Keenum. Your rant is already being disproved. At least, I give you credit for caring. But we can't beat up the people who got us here. They have earned our confidence.
 
If the TV money is off the charts in Lexington, then the NIL business is none of Mitch’s concern. He can’t expect to wallow in both TV and private funds now that NIL is here. The money offered up to individuals is none of his business.
This is the problem, however, when it comes to the locker room and the idea that kids are collecting up front for their potential, their star ratings, instead of producing on the field, contributing to the scoreboard.
Will the kids drawing the biggest NIL checks get more touches because the benefactors sitting in the stands expect it? How can they be counted on for next season’s batch of 4 star recruits while part of this years class stands on the sideline being “developed” ? When the redshirt sophomore hits his stride, does the NIL freshman figuratively sit on his cash-padded bench?
Amateurism running off the rails.
 
This is so clearly a major portion of Barnhart's job that Stoops is now mired in trying to navigate.

THIS kind of BS, having to do the Bosses job (and a really nasty job at that) that causes outstanding employees (Coach Stoops) to leave. Stoops would not have this BS if he was at FSU or Georgia. I bet the tension is thick between the two already, or Stoops never would have spoken up,

This is not good.
 
This is so clearly a major portion of Barnhart's job that Stoops is now mired in trying to navigate.

THIS kind of BS, having to do the Bosses job (and a really nasty job at that) that causes outstanding employees (Coach Stoops) to leave. Stoops would not have this BS if he was at FSU or Georgia. I bet the tension is thick between the two already, or Stoops never would have spoken up,

This is not good.
Yeah...we need to quit acting like there is no issue with UK and NIL. Stoops sounded awkward as all get out when pleading for money...he could not even say the word "collective" even though he described it to a tee. Mitch needs to handle this and just submit short term until the rules get settled....he's hand cuffing Stoops.
 
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If Adidas is buying a decent UL team, then maybe UK needs to relook it's contract with nike? Nike does provide a lot of cool gear for the players, but UK is not their "top" priority. Perhaps UK should look at companies that will give them a little more love?
 
Perhaps UK should look at companies that will give them a little more love?
I ask, again, how many major sports facilities sport the name “Kroger,” for 20 million a year?

And how many Universities have sold all non-ESPN (radio) broadcast rights, and naming rights to IMG for 28 million a year?

Just thinking out loud . . . .
 
Stoops would not have this BS if he was at FSU or Georgia.
Georgia fans are reporting frequent refusals by UGA to guarantee true frosh NIL.

Ask Grumpy; his thoughts are very similar to most of ours.
 
This is so clearly a major portion of Barnhart's job that Stoops is now mired in trying to navigate.

THIS kind of BS, having to do the Bosses job (and a really nasty job at that) that causes outstanding employees (Coach Stoops) to leave. Stoops would not have this BS if he was at FSU or Georgia. I bet the tension is thick between the two already, or Stoops never would have spoken up,

This is not good.
Drama time. Good grief.
 
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We just got pledges from Stuart and Keenum. Your rant is already being disproved. At least, I give you credit for caring.
A well-written and well-reasoned post . . . and pretty much along my line of thinking prior to reading Coach Stoops’ comments.

There obviously a deep touch of concern in Stoops’ words that reduction to print cannot hide.
 
There's a lot to read in this thread yet, so it may have been addressed. But I listened to Stoops when he said this on KSR, so I think I can maybe clear it up some.

Stoops was adamant in saying, several times, "you can do this. It's legal", and he kind of hinted that the administration may have been saying the opposite. But over and over "this is legal". So there's nothing Barnhart can do about it. Nothing for him to allow. It doesn't concern him.

As far as how, I think it's against NCAA rules for the school (admins and coaches) to be directly involved. So this has to be organized by donors and boosters. And Kentucky is behind because business leaders in the community have been told by the athletic department not to do it because it will hurt the University.

So now the wheels are in motion, this will likely be settled in a couple weeks at the longest, and there will be more information about how.
Except no one in the administration ever said you can’t do this. No one ever even hinted that you can’t give to collectives.
 
Except no one in the administration ever said you can’t do this. No one ever even hinted that you can’t give to collectives.
But Ole Mitch didn't want ANY of UK's sponsors to STOP giving directly to UK and take their money and GIVE it to the NIL Collectives. JMI made it CLEAR that NIL had to be SEPARATE from ALL of the UK sponsors.

Why not share??!!!!
 
Why not share??!!!!
Seriously, I don’t think any AD has yet said they were reducing prices to fans or sponsors so that the savings could go to NIL instead.

Being that direct may cross a line that the NCAA could enforce.
 
But Ole Mitch didn't want ANY of UK's sponsors to STOP giving directly to UK and take their money and GIVE it to the NIL Collectives. JMI made it CLEAR that NIL had to be SEPARATE from ALL of the UK sponsors.

Why not share??!!!!
You got this info from where exactly? What sponsor did Mitch Barnhart stop or discourage from giving to an NIL? Name a single one. Who did JMI make it clear to that NIL had to be separate from sponsors? That doesn’t even make sense. JMI gets money that they are contractually obligated to get. What does UK sponsors or NIL have to do with JMI?
 
You got this info from where exactly? What sponsor did Mitch Barnhart stop or discourage from giving to an NIL? Name a single one. Who did JMI make it clear to that NIL had to be separate from sponsors? That doesn’t even make sense. JMI gets money that they are contractually obligated to get. What does UK sponsors or NIL have to do with JMI?
The radio show, coaches shows, countdown sponsors, coaches going outside of UK to hold NIL events, EXORBITANT Licensing fees and UK corporate sponsors which Mitch ENCOURAGES to stick with ONLY UK.

Heck, Mitch should be taking at least HALF of his K-Fund GRIFT and figuring out how season ticket holders can donate it to NIL!!!
 
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Except no one in the administration ever said you can’t do this. No one ever even hinted that you can’t give to collectives.

When Matt Jones says these things on his radio show, it's because the football staff, and Vince Marrow in particular, are telling him to. He's not exactly subtle.

So when he says Mitch and them bitches was holding nil back, that's the feeling the football staff are getting from the administration. And that ain't good.
 
When Matt Jones says these things on his radio show, it's because the football staff, and Vince Marrow in particular, are telling him to. He's not exactly subtle.

So when he says Mitch and them bitches was holding nil back, that's the feeling the football staff are getting from the administration. And that ain't good.
That’s odd because Vince Marrow publicly said the opposite when he didn’t have to say anything.

I guess we should assume that Vince Marrow is lying when he speaks publicly and also assume that Matt Jones is speaking for him. LOL, the lies y’all spew to keep your BS narrative going is pathetic.

 
A looming recession, our govt spending money as if that bill wont need to be paid at some point in the future, inflation, the govt hiring 80,000 plus IRS agents to nickel and dime US taxpayers, etc. Read the room Mitch and Mark. NIL is literally the last thing I would consider putting money into these days.
 
That’s odd because Vince Marrow publicly said the opposite when he didn’t have to say anything.

I guess we should assume that Vince Marrow is lying when he speaks publicly and also assume that Matt Jones is speaking for him. LOL, the lies y’all spew to keep your BS narrative going is pathetic.

From the Big Dawg's mouth. I believe him.

Money is no issue with UK. Any program that can pay a football and basketball coach $9 million each is not hurting for money. There is no reason to think the NIL funds are any different. The money is there.

Now earn your $9 million coaches and players enjoy your NIL money, new cars and lifestyles fit for the rich and famous. Let Matt Jones spew out his narrative and meanwhile the real world is what our program is living in. And it is a Wonderful Life.
 
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You got this info from where exactly? What sponsor did Mitch Barnhart stop or discourage from giving to an NIL? Name a single one. Who did JMI make it clear to that NIL had to be separate from sponsors? That doesn’t even make sense. JMI gets money that they are contractually obligated to get. What does UK sponsors or NIL have to do with JMI?
Here we go again. Are you magilla gorilla or bill bixby?
 
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Here we go again. Are you magilla gorilla or bill bixby?
Here we go again lying. Are you a UK fan or do you lie and spread misinformation to hurt UK. What’s your agenda? Why so much lying?

Oh that’s right, you won’t answer. Y’all just deflect and run when you get busted lying.

He says Matt Jones is speaking for Vince Marrow. Vince Marrow comes out and says the complete opposite, these clowns can’t defend their pathetic lies, so they deflect.
 
But Ole Mitch didn't want ANY of UK's sponsors to STOP giving directly to UK and take their money and GIVE it to the NIL Collectives. JMI made it CLEAR that NIL had to be SEPARATE from ALL of the UK sponsors.

Why not share??!!!!

All Mitch has to do is let those big donors fund nil and find more money to fund the usual stuff. He won't do it.
 
“So when he says Mitch and them bitches was holding nil back, that's the feeling the football staff are getting from the administration. And that ain't good.”

Yup, sure looks like that’s the feeling the football staff are getting from the administration. LOL, imagine making up stuff to take shots at people you don’t even know. SMH, this is embarrassing.
 
All Mitch has to do is let those big donors fund nil and find more money to fund the usual stuff. He won't do it.
More lies. Big donors can give to whatever they want to. You completely made up he won’t do it. Lie after lie. Specifically which big donor won’t Mitch allow to give to NIL? Oh that’s right, you can’t say because you’re lying.

This is where you deflect with a personal attack because you can’t defend your lie. I’m guessing you’re gonna cal me Mrs Barnhart. That’s the usual go to when y’all can’t defend your lie.
 
More lies. Big donors can give to whatever they want to. You completely made up he won’t do it. Lie after lie. Specifically which big donor won’t Mitch allow to give to NIL? Oh that’s right, you can’t say because you’re lying.

This is where you deflect with a personal attack because you can’t defend your lie. I’m guessing you’re gonna cal me Mrs Barnhart. That’s the usual go to when y’all can’t defend your lie.

It isn't a personal attack. By all accounts he is a fine person. It's pointing out that professionally, he's either gotten lazy or isn't pursuing these opportunities because of some moral ground. Neither are acceptable in this day and age.
 
It isn't a personal attack. By all accounts he is a fine person. It's pointing out that professionally, he's either gotten lazy or isn't pursuing these opportunities because of some moral ground. Neither are acceptable in this day and age.
The lies y’all spew to forward your agenda aren’t acceptable. Fortunately despite all the lies we were still able to attract the top QB, one of the top CB’s, and LT in the portal. We’re about to get one of the top HS RBs too. Y’all can keep making up lies about the UK administration not supporting NIL, you get proven wrong every step of the way.

I would ask you specifically how he’s gotten lazy or what opportunities he didn’t pursue because of moral grounds but we all know you wouldn’t answer. Y’all just throw out vague accusations and have nothing to back them up with. Nothing is more important to y’all than the narrative Matt Jones put out, y’all will tell any lie or make up and story to protect it.
 
Here we go again lying. Are you a UK fan or do you lie and spread misinformation to hurt UK. What’s your agenda? Why so much lying?

Oh that’s right, you won’t answer. Y’all just deflect and run when you get busted lying.

He says Matt Jones is speaking for Vince Marrow. Vince Marrow comes out and says the complete opposite, these clowns can’t defend their pathetic lies, so they deflect.
What have I lied about?
 
Still don't see where I can donate to football only.

I'm not donating to the UK funds this year until Mitch decides we need the alcohol sales.
 
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What have I lied about?
You didn’t lie about anything, you just deflected for the fraud who lied and claimed the UK coaching staff says the UK administration doesn’t support NIL. That seems to be your job, you don’t comment on the subject, you just deflect when your buddies get busted lying about NIL.

Vince Marrow directly contradicted his claims which were lies that he made up. You came in and deflected with here we go again. You didn’t want to address the lies he told or Marrows comments, just wanted to deflect for the liar spewing misinformation that hurts UK.
 
Still don't see where I can donate to football only.

I'm not donating to the UK funds this year until Mitch decides we need the alcohol sales.
LOL at how utterly clueless they remain. “The UK fund”? What exactly is the UK fund? Different collectives do different things, find one that’s exclusively for football. Hell, start one on your own and do NIL deals exclusively with football players.
 
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