I don't believe it though what with who the AD is and all.
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-coaches-hot-seat-2015/
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-coaches-hot-seat-2015/
Stoops could be on the hot seat in 2015 according to SDS
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In Year Three with a traditional cellar-dweller? Laughable. I think somebody's getting concerned with his modest progress.
How happy would fans be with 4-8?
This is Stoops 3rd season and there are some expectations.
Every fan had there own thoughts of what those expectations should be.
As for myself I would like to see a team that is better at the end of the season than it was at the start of the season. A sign of great coaching.
This is Stoops 3rd season and there are some expectations.
Every fan had there own thoughts of what those expectations should be.
As for myself I would like to see a team that is better at the end of the season than it was at the start of the season. A sign of great coaching.
yeah ok. Unless we go 0-12 his seat is quite cool.
I'm not sure whether I should be outraged or saddened that our fanbase's expectations are this ridiculously low in year-three of Stoops' tenure..we have such a long way to go to change this terrible, terrible mindset that it's not even funny
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Anyone who believes anything written in the rag is a naive fool.
"Call me when we're 2-10."
In reality, if we don't make a bowl game there is going to be a fair portion of the fanbase who will start to get really upset. Just the way our fanbase is. They want to win. They want to win now. So, yeah, his seat could heat up but I don't think he would be fired unless something catastrophic happened.
In reality, if we don't make a bowl game there is going to be a fair portion of the fanbase who will start to get really upset. Just the way our fanbase is. They want to win. They want to win now. So, yeah, his seat could heat up but I don't think he would be fired unless something catastrophic happened.
What rubbish! The ONLY way Stoops seat gets hot after 2015 is a 3 win or less season with no plausible excuses (i.e., a veritable tidal wave of key injuries). And that ain't gonna happen. That said, the seat may warm up a bit with another 5-7 season if there are no extenuating circumstances. But I don't think that is gonna happen either. Stoops will get a year 4 regardless of record.
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The last part would make me happy, even if they go 6-6, as long as there is improvement over the course of the season. It's been the opposite for so many years in a row, it's getting old.
Honestly I think this just reflects how disconnected the rest of the SEC is to the pulse of UK football and how little they care about it. I live in south Mississippi, and I've heard the local sports radio guys consistently name Stoops as a guy that will be fired soon, Kentucky as being SIGNIFICANTLY lower on the totem pole as either of the Mississippi schools. They even predicted Southern Miss may get a win against UK because apparently they think the programs are comparable.
When websites outside the commonwealth publish articles like this, it's just really easy to throw UK/Stoops in as the worst or one of the worst. It requires no research, and really nobody is going to argue with it. When Finebaum or any of the SEC guys are doing their rundown on predictions, UK doesn't even get analyzed. It's "we know UK and Vandy will suck, let's start at number 5." It's lazy journalism, but it just shows how little the rest of the SEC cares about UK football.
When websites outside the commonwealth publish articles like this, it's just really easy to throw UK/Stoops in as the worst or one of the worst. It requires no research, and really nobody is going to argue with it. When Finebaum or any of the SEC guys are doing their rundown on predictions, UK doesn't even get analyzed. It's "we know UK and Vandy will suck, let's start at number 5." It's lazy journalism, but it just shows how little the rest of the SEC cares about UK football.
[QUOTE="hangin#8, post: It's lazy journalism, but it just shows how little the rest of the SEC cares about UK football.[/QUOTE]
It's worth noting that for every "lazy journalist" out there who is outside the BBN trashing us, there is 1 journalist who is impressed with our progress lately. Stating that UK has finally found a QB and with the recruiting uptake they are on their way up. And it wasn't too long ago when some media sources were throwing around Stoops' name with every high profile coaching job that came open.
It's worth noting that for every "lazy journalist" out there who is outside the BBN trashing us, there is 1 journalist who is impressed with our progress lately. Stating that UK has finally found a QB and with the recruiting uptake they are on their way up. And it wasn't too long ago when some media sources were throwing around Stoops' name with every high profile coaching job that came open.
IMO it is way more likely that Stoops would be hired by another program than that UK would fire him. I however do not thing either is about to happen anytime soon.
Stoops has till year 5 to reach a bowl game and then sustain that success further. Anyone who thinks different is wrong.
As silly as it was to list Stoops as No. 4 on the hot seat.... at No. 2 and 3 respectively, are Malzahn and Sumlin. Uh, okay.
Basically, if it was really necessary to write an article about SEC coaches on the hot seat, a better idea would have been to write that there really aren't any on the hot seat, with the exception of Mason. I also wouldn't be surprised if Spurrier retires.
Basically, if it was really necessary to write an article about SEC coaches on the hot seat, a better idea would have been to write that there really aren't any on the hot seat, with the exception of Mason. I also wouldn't be surprised if Spurrier retires.
the only thing worth reading on that site is when they printed articles mocking Will Muschamp and even thats been taken away from us now.
That fan is not alone....Me and many others will be sorely disappointed with 5 or less wins. Stoops will absolutely lose any recruiting momentum if we don't get to 6 wins and a bowl this season. His seat WILL be warm with less than 6 wins. That is NOT being a microwave fan. Those expectations are very reasonable.
Although I am predicting 8 regular season wins, Coach Stoops has 5 years to prove himself, and the only way we don't get to at LEAST 6 wins is if we have horrible amount of injuries. If that happens then it wont be on him anyway.
They were better at the end of last year than the beginning. They simply played a murderers row schedule with no depth.
Stoops will lose most of the fan's support and lose most of his recruiting mojo if a bowl game is not reached this year. No way around it. It's time to prove that you are going to move this program toward national prominence. That is the goal, competing toward division titles and major bowl games. Shouldn't take him till year 4 or 5 to make a minor bowl game and have a winning season if he has the potential as a coach. Especially with the talent he has brought in. Brooks made a bunch of minor bowl games with considerably less talent. One website already has him at # 16 with the hot seat for coaches in the country. http://www.coacheshotseat.com/
That being said it's a moot point, we will win AT LEAST 7 games in the regular season barring some sort of rampant injury bug!
That being said it's a moot point, we will win AT LEAST 7 games in the regular season barring some sort of rampant injury bug!
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Why all the negativity... It seems like every post that I've read today is negative....
Stoops and his assistant coaches just got raises. Stoops is recruiting better than any other modern Kentucky football coach has recruited. Stoops is not, and will not be, on the hot seat. This is nothing but an unfounded rumor from a non-source.
SDS = garbage. And any UK fan who puts Stoops on the hot seat doesn't understand in how bad a shape the last coach left us.
If the team wins 6, not 7 and not 8, games this season it will be a pleasant surprise and reason to hope for 7 or 8 in the following year.
Every year some have eyes bigger than their stomachs and wild eyed optimists begin predicting the future based on hot air and fan, internet hype.
We have an unproven OlL, DL, LBs, QB, WRs and DBs in the SEC. How does that equate to 7 or 8 wins? Maybe, but sure as hell maybe not.
All we've got too much of is an all too familiar overload of hair trigger, uninformed, coaching critics eager to pile on the first negative thread.
Heaven help us. Can there be a forty day and forty night, fan site, internet flood?
Rant over.
Every year some have eyes bigger than their stomachs and wild eyed optimists begin predicting the future based on hot air and fan, internet hype.
We have an unproven OlL, DL, LBs, QB, WRs and DBs in the SEC. How does that equate to 7 or 8 wins? Maybe, but sure as hell maybe not.
All we've got too much of is an all too familiar overload of hair trigger, uninformed, coaching critics eager to pile on the first negative thread.
Heaven help us. Can there be a forty day and forty night, fan site, internet flood?
Rant over.
Anyone who doesnt think we win enough to at least get to a bowl game and would accept that is uninformed AND perpetuating the loser mentality that we dont need at uk. Fans have good reason to be optimistic about the upcoming season, and if in the upcoming season the coaches dont produce, they will have every right to be frustrated with this staff.
I agree with everything you said... The one thing I would add is that the games that we lose, we can see the improvement that has been made in the team this year... You have to remember that 90% of the Country's teams would lose against our schedule... We should be able with our eyes to see if our team is improving, without having X amount of games....
I will admit that I am going to be very disappointed if the Cats do not continue forward progress and get 6 or 7 wins. That does not mean however that I will give up on this coaching staff and put them on some kind of hot seat if they some how fail to reach what I think is a very fair goal in their 3rd year. I think the schedule with 8 home games and 3 winnable games on the road sets up about as well as you can ever hope for when you play a SEC schedule. Things happen and the old oblong ball bounces strangely at times so there is never any sure thing when you play in the toughest conference in college football so it is possible that the Cats might not get the 6 wins needed to become bowl eligible. IMO however they will get at least enough to be bowl eligible this season and continue their forward progress.
They did post an article on how to get rid of comcast and still watch SEC sports. . . they have value
It would take a major scandal and complete regression for Stoops not to have at least five years.
I'm more worried about Stoops doing very well and having to fend off other programs to keep him here than I am about him getting on the hot seat.
Being on the hot seat doesn't mean "fired." It means some fans, some sports media, etc will openly question whether a HC was the right hire. This is UK football we're talking about, and Coach Stoops will get five years IMO. But if he wins less than 6 this year, he will lose his recruiting edge and success will be even harder to find because the national press will start talking about his prospects for remaining UK's HC. It can turn into a death spiral (sub .500 seasons hurt recruiting.....lack of talent hurts on field performance....and so on......and so on). That being said, I think we stand a good chance of 6+ wins if we shore up our O & D lines and clean up special teams. GBB!
Definitely not "uninformed" but maybe a little more football sense than some and probably a lot more time in the UK football saddle than most
Just a major difference in opinion over games not yet played and a fan's ability to judge a coach's performance. Kind'a funny if you think about it.
By the way, where did that "we" come from. Sounds symptomatic of the "true fan" syndrome. A dreadful disease cured only by experience.
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I think it would be a one hell of an accomplishment if the staff gets this team to 6 wins. I am predicting 5, and that's with us having to upset someone along the way, which isn't going to be easy. I won't be shocked if they only win 4. There are just too many unknowns on both sides of the ball...so if they get to 6, then people should celebrate it.
With the harshest SEC part of the schedule left, playing with a young roster, including some injuries that really hurt us, and an oline who couldn't stay up with the type SEC defenses that we were facing, unless you believe in miracles what happened to us is explainable. No one in the history of football could have won with this beat down group that they were before the ul game, it was brutal. This didn't have anything to do with great coaching, it was about survival, you do know the BEAR is dead right?
well, I certainly agree with you that we are still 2 years away from having a solid SEC team. We are still lacking talent and maturity on Defense(DE, linebacker, and CB are thin) and the O-Line is still very young with talent. So, it won't be easy. I think we beat UL this time for the 6th win.
I think we have an elite receiving corps and we have to utilize that....Even if that means moving the pocket for Towles because of our suspect O-Line. Our receivers are legit SEC talent. I was seriously impressed with Bone last season. He made some BIG TIME plays that we don't usually see at UK from receivers.
I'm praying that Boom can stay healthy the whole season. He's been injured before....
I still think we get to 6 wins. One more than last season is progress. We need that to maintain recruiting momentum.
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