Start Willis over Poythress
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Actually, you are still just being an A-Hole.
I have thrown the towel in on Alex and Marcus. I personally cant wait until both of them are gone. Alex plays like he does not give a crap about BB. He has been at UK for 4 years and he has seen many players leave for the big bucks of the NBA. I am sure that bothers him however I doubt he would admit it to the press/public. As far as Lee goes, he is what he is. All he can do on offense is dunk the ball. After practicing against all of the talent that he has practiced against, he has not improved one bit since being at UK. He has no jump shot, can't hit free throws and rebounds when he wants to. This team is going no where fast. A team can't win if it relies on guard play each and every game. They are easy to game plan for and defend because they do not have an inside scoring presence. Skal is ,2,3,4 years away from being able to contribute.
Why not play Willis more? It's not like our other bigs are "elevating" us either.
Simple. You cultivate the players which can fair the best against the strongest competition in the tourney. Willis is a good kid. Not sure how well that's gonna serve us in the final four.
It's not like Lee, Poythress, and Skal are playing head and shoulders above Willis right now either. Until 2 of the above step up, why not play all 4? Each offers something different and with their penchant for foul trouble we may need all 4.
I'm not a huge Willis fan, he usually ticks me off with his lack of defense. But today he really only ticked me off once. I'm not sure what he was doing diving for the loose ball on the backcourt violation? But with that said. He had a nice game today in a losing effort. Poythress is inconsistent offensively but he plays good defense. So I don't think you can sit him. I wouldn't mind sitting Lee though.
Alex and Lee are all talk. If they had half the heart Ulis does, this team would be a legit contender.
Instead we are stuck with two upper classmen that can't dribble the ball. Lee shoud have stuck with volleyball.
I am just so tired of seeing this over and over. They are all hype. At least Skal is a freshman.
Cal either needs to play Wynard and Humphries or stop complaining about the frontcourt players.
Instead we are stuck with two upper classmen that can't dribble the ball. Lee shoud have stuck with volleyball.
I am just so tired of seeing this over and over. They are all hype. At least Skal is a freshman.
Cal either needs to play Wynard and Humphries or stop complaining about the frontcourt players.
Willis wasn't even close to why we lost tonight. In fact without Willis good defense (yes he was good on D for the most part) and good rebounding we probably would have lost by 20+ points. He was the least of the problems tonight.
The 2nd post about Poy is a little harsh, but I can't disagree. It's one of those things where he's ready to move on from Kentucky, and we're ready to move on from him.
Not sure why Lee is in the dog house though. He had a bad game, but he consistently grabs 7-8 boards. He was never an offensive minded guy, and this is really the first year he's being asked to play big minutes. Lee generally gives it his all. Not gonna sour on him because of a few bad games in what is more or less his freshman year.
Not sure why Lee is in the dog house though. He had a bad game, but he consistently grabs 7-8 boards. He was never an offensive minded guy, and this is really the first year he's being asked to play big minutes. Lee generally gives it his all. Not gonna sour on him because of a few bad games in what is more or less his freshman year.
So that's once. We still lost to a pitiful team. Not exactly a game changer. Kansas is coming. You'll see.
The anti-Willis crowd just need to concede at this point. They act like he's supposed to be combination of Ron Artest and Anthony Davis on the floor. The dude did practically everything he could to defend that circus shot 3-pointer, no less a 90/100 score on that possession, and some fans still said he "didn't defend" lmfao. The announcers saw it, Cal saw it.. but some fans still want.. well. I don't know.
It's real simple. Our reserves will never get better by sitting on the bench. Normally, that's fine, because our front 7 is beastly, and there's no need for playing reserves. But that's not the case this year. Our bench needs to be productive if we want to get past the Sweet16, and we may need someone to rise up from that group... the only way that can happen is with more minutes.
I mean, was Josh Harrellson and 2011 that distant of a memory? We're in the exact same position. Jorts was thrust into that role because of the Kanter screw job. He was rough at first, helped in the middle, and came on strong in the end. At this point, you have to try and find that player.
It's real simple. Our reserves will never get better by sitting on the bench. Normally, that's fine, because our front 7 is beastly, and there's no need for playing reserves. But that's not the case this year. Our bench needs to be productive if we want to get past the Sweet16, and we may need someone to rise up from that group... the only way that can happen is with more minutes.
I mean, was Josh Harrellson and 2011 that distant of a memory? We're in the exact same position. Jorts was thrust into that role because of the Kanter screw job. He was rough at first, helped in the middle, and came on strong in the end. At this point, you have to try and find that player.
It seems some are unable to accept the fact that a Kentucky boy can play big-boy basketball; sometimes they can!
Two and a half years we have heard about the prowess of Willis and how he deserved more time despite not producing . By posting his abilities into existence and entirely omitting any fault . Finally after two and a half years of this nonsense he has had a good game and now he needs to start ? I'm glad he had a good game , I would love it if he was anywhere near as good as he's made out to be . I haven't been too hard on Willis despite him getting far too much attention just because he's white with Ky ties . At least this time the Ky kid can actually do a few things as opposed to years past when the their abilities never came close to posters imaginations .
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You are terrible. And Willis is my boy.
You need to go root for YOUR BOY Tubby at TT.
Hard to argue against this post. Only thing I will say, they are UK players and I still want them until they are ready to leave. However, time to play others. They have had their chances.
I more mean this to who you quoted^^
But why, again, are we comparing Lee to Poythress? Poythress has another year, and was a pivitol player his freshman and sophomore year. Lee was an after thought his freshman year and was lost in the rotation last year.. He's essentially a red shirt freshman.. Who's still doing better than Poythress.
But why, again, are we comparing Lee to Poythress? Poythress has another year, and was a pivitol player his freshman and sophomore year. Lee was an after thought his freshman year and was lost in the rotation last year.. He's essentially a red shirt freshman.. Who's still doing better than Poythress.
You are terrible. And Willis is my boy.
You need to go root for YOUR BOY Tubby at TT.
That all you got? Looks like you are down to name calling in both threads. Your done.
exactly who the hell on this team besides Tyler Ullis do you think can be depended upon to win 4 games in a row in a post season tournament? This team doesn't need to make preps for a final four. This team needs to make preps for being functional, something that resembles something capable of not squandering 15 point leads on any given Saturday.
And you need to check the name on the jerseys. I think you have the cats confused with a program that hopes to suck.
I knew it was just a matter of time until someone brought up Willis being white. Somebody always has to go there and this time it was you. Congrats! What in the hell does that have to do with anything? He's playing better than Alex and Lee. Period! I couldn't care less who is producing as long as it gets done. Grow up and knock that stupid shit off.
Wrong. Those players you want to "cultivate" are not going to suddenly play like superstars in the tourney. Unfortunately, Willis IS our best big this season and that is why our chances of going far in the tourrney are not good. Next season we will be back to dominating the NCAA. This season other teams will abuse the Cats as payback for years of embarrassing them.
I don't get how it's tough to understand that there is a reason these guys aren't playing. The staff can tell immediately in practice if someone is ready to contribute. We're halfway through the season, the players who will be playing are playing. This isn't a Jorts situation at all, otherwise one of those guys would have already been replaced.
That makes you and your other Louisville friends happy, I'm sure.
I remember 2014. Folks were ready to flush our best players then too. Fortunately for the Cats and bad for you guys, we have a coach that understands you are VERY wrong.
Thanks ! He has played better for one game , one , one , one . You and a collection of worshippers have been chomping at the bit for him to do something to catch up with the laughable and outlandish praise for years now . Congrats on one game , your ivory tower can now be showcased and make all Ky folk really proud . He's from here ya know !!!
Even so, I'm not fanaticizing about most improbable final fours and letting that prevent me from recognizing quality effort when it happens. Perhaps you would imagine that Briscoe's free throw shooting prowess as a dependable asset in your final four fantasies? What is he up to? 40% yet? Honestly, why don't you just go ahead and say what it is that you want to say. Here's what I'm getting so far: that you are confident that we are going to a final four and that we don't need to waste playing time on our best perimeter shooters, as those persons would be of little or no use.
I honestly can't find a coherent thought in that post. Nobody said Willis didn't have a quality game at Auburn. However, he really played that game as a fourth guard, not as a substitute power forward. Many of his minutes came because Poythress had an eye poked. He had a good game. He did not have a great game. I think Willis himself would characterize his game as "better". No self respecting athlete would say he played great while his team was beaten by the league joker.
I think you are making the mistake of measuring Poythress average output with Willis best game. You need to compare apples to apples. Average to average, best to best. You are going to have to do some heavy spinning to make Willis look better in either. When it comes to playing defense, where there are precious few stats, Willis has a long way to go to match Poythress on defense, again, avg to avg, best to best.
Poythress needs a good backup. He's had zero up to now this year. I'm happy Willis appears to be stepping into that role. We really need the depth. We need our best players playing their best.
Now as to the final four discussion, I mention that to make the point that Willis will not hold up under that level of competition. Poythress will. He has been there, done that in 2014. If we are so poor that Willis can legitimately start on this team, then our aspirations have fallen from a deep tournament run to possible not making the NCAA and another early out in the NIT.
I know you want to watch your boy play more. I get that. However, if Willis were thrust into the role the fanboi's are promoting right now for him, this team is nose down going into the drink. Maybe you'd prefer to watch your guy play rather than watch the team do well. I'm not there yet. The '14 team taught me you aren't there till the season is over. Remember '14?
I had not mentioned Willis' name once in this thread, btw, nor have I mentioned anything about "starting." You are very amusing. So was your multi-paragraph missive. Flattering even. Aspirations have fallen, indeed. It doesn't matter who starts. My point was to determine YOUR position. I made none of my own (save for cynical remarks for Briscoe's FT shooting).
Oh so I'm not allowed to keep a post on topic with the thread because you post random BS? You clearly have no point. I do admit that I was mistaken to assume you were replying in context to the thread. I failed to note You lack the attention span and coherence to do so. YOU posted nonsense in a thread about Willis starting over Poythress is what you are telling me.
But, we'll play your off topic game since you lack the attention span of a gnat. Let's see, has nobody on this team played in a final foul beside Ulis?
Anybody? Anybody? Is Ulis all there is?
Hint: His initials are AP. Oh wait! There's another one. Ummmmm, Marcus something. Anybody else? Focus now.
But they suck so bad they couldn't play in two final fours right? That what you meant? Wait, wasn't that Marcus guy on the team in '14 and '15?
We won't count international stars, that wouldn't be fair to you.
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