Stallings getting heat today
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He's squandered jones and his team plays soft even by Vandy standards. they should just shut down their program so that we can kick them and mizzou out.
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Yeah, 104.5? Guy on there said a few boosters seem to think he should've been gone years ago..
Vandy has an over-inflated ego. I don't like Stallings but he is a good coach. More importantly, he has done a good job of recruiting kids who are just below the radar and become pretty good players after a couple of years of college. Vandy will never be a consistent top 25 program. I think they would be crazy to get rid of Stallings.
One last thing, Stallings views Vandy as a destination job. He won't leave them until he retires or gets fired. If they bring someone else in they more than likely will leave after the first bit of success. Then they'll be hiring a new coach every 3-4 years.
One last thing, Stallings views Vandy as a destination job. He won't leave them until he retires or gets fired. If they bring someone else in they more than likely will leave after the first bit of success. Then they'll be hiring a new coach every 3-4 years.
Any time Vandy finishes higher than tenth in any SEC sport besides golf and equestrian the fans should be grateful.
That egg head deserves it. Vandy fans are very smitten, but they have small trophy case to go with the attitude.
Baseball been berry berry good to Vandy.
I'm just hoping the return game down here in Nashville goes well for us and we can pickup the season sweep.
I have to disagree with you on your statement on being a consistent top 25 program. The SEC overall is not that strong in basketball and with the right coach I think they could easily become a top 25 program. They have a very supportive fan base and all the necessary resources to become top 25. It takes getting the right coach to see the program fly.
In "theory" Vanderbilt is a basketball school with lots of tradition.
In reality they have been just good enough but to be great. Do you know how many NCAA Tournament wins Vanderbilt has all-time? 10. For comparisons sake Kentucky has 9 in the past two years.
Their fans are great in Memorial Gym. But play a game 10 minutes down the road and none of them go.
In reality they have been just good enough but to be great. Do you know how many NCAA Tournament wins Vanderbilt has all-time? 10. For comparisons sake Kentucky has 9 in the past two years.
Their fans are great in Memorial Gym. But play a game 10 minutes down the road and none of them go.
Sure they can be a top 25 team for a year or two but they will never be a consistent top 25 team, not with the way college basketball is structured now. They can be a consistent tourney team, going 3 out of 5 years.
If they get rid of Stallings and bring in a younger guy who has success he'll leave after 3-4 years. Then they'll be replacing a coach every 3-4 years. To me the stability and competitive teams you get with Stallings is better than hoping someone else can come in and make you something you've never been and risk going back to doormat status.
The other SEC teams seem to take turns in competing with UK at the top of the conference; TN, Ark, Fla, Bama, LSU, and even Georgia and MSU a few times, but Vandy has never done that outside of a really good year here or there.
As someone said this team plays soft even by Vandy standards.I'm not a big fan of Stallingss but he usually gets more out of a team than he has gotten from this one.
Coming in with as much hype as they did early it has to be tough to be where they are right now.The SECT is probably their only shot at making the NCAAT
Coming in with as much hype as they did early it has to be tough to be where they are right now.The SECT is probably their only shot at making the NCAAT
I'm no Vandy hater. I even used to cheer for them as a second team growing up in west Tennessee. I kind of feel bad for Stallings because losing Kornet came at a bad time. However, at some point, that excuse no longer holds water.
But I think there is something else in play here that Vandy fans aren't taking into account, and it likely won't make them happy when I say it. This team really overachieved last season. They benefited greatly from teams taking them lightly in SEC play. But truly, that team may not be as good as many in Nashville want to believe. But the result of that over achieving was high expectations this season, perhaps unrealistic expectations.
But I think there is something else in play here that Vandy fans aren't taking into account, and it likely won't make them happy when I say it. This team really overachieved last season. They benefited greatly from teams taking them lightly in SEC play. But truly, that team may not be as good as many in Nashville want to believe. But the result of that over achieving was high expectations this season, perhaps unrealistic expectations.
This has crossed my mind as well,they won several games last year and played us tough. LaChance and Baldwin haven't followed up what they did last year
Vandy should be very careful here. Stallings is a good coach, though I can't stand him. Don't know who would do better.
Where did you grow up in west tn?
My apologies for ending up in Illinois. America can't get rid of that state fast enough
If I were Vandy I would go after Archie Miller at Dayton. This could be the perfect match IMO.
Go Big Blue!
Yes, I appreciate your sympathy. Haha! I grew up in the Northwest corner of Tennessee, in the Union City area. I live in southern IL, so at least it's not Chicago. But yeah, I wouldn't recommend to anyone to move here unless you feel you must.
Quite possibly, but they are not going to win with Stallings. Not saying he isn't a good coach - but how long has he been at Vanderbilt? How many SEC titles does he have? How many SEC tourney titles does he have? Vanderbilt was the second best basketball school in the SEC when he took over - now where are they? If Vandy wants to win, they must consider making a change - or they can stay with Stallings and be happy with being 6th or so in the SEC.
Vanderbilt has great potential. As I have said, they are the Duke of the SEC.
Go Big Blue!
Ha Union city. I'm from Dyersburg.
As you can see in my avatar, I wouldn't like Illinois. That's 1/100th of my arsenal.
Egg Head??? Why not call it like it is: Dickie V lite...Jr...wannabe or, whatever...
I'm not sure what you're basing this off of other than they are both elite academic schools. dUKe was relevant in college basketball before coach K ever arrived. Sure he has made them one of the elite programs since he's been there but they were in a few final fours and a championship game before him.
Vandy has never been close to dUKe in basketball, before or after coach K. Sure they could be a "dUKe of the SEC", but they're not, and won't be. They'll be what they've always been, outside of a few really good years, and that's middle of the pack in the SEC. They are a lot like UK in football with a little more success. We aspire to be an elite SEC football program, you have to or you'll be a laughing stock. Hopefully we can knock on the door once in a while. The key is to keep from collapsing every 4-5 years and set a baseline of success and try to maintain that throughout. In football our baseline should be 6 wins. That's not our goal mind you, just what we should expect, and hopefully break through every so often and knock on that door for a division title. Just don't let the down years be 3-4 wins, always be in a position to at least be .500. Same for Vandy in basketball and Stallings has them there right there, and it has been no easy task.
I think stallings is a good coach, but I don't think he is going to get Vanderbilt to the place they want to be consistently. I also think part of the reason Vandy is disappointed this season is because of the hype they had coming in. They were ranked and getting a lot of mentions on National sports media. Now they are looking NIT bound. A fall like that is hard to swallow. But, when you watch them as a team, they have good individual talent. For some reason the pieces just don't fit together well, they rely on outside shooting too much, they aren't a very quick team, and they play way too soft.
I think you are correct,SEC basketball(unless you are coming to UK) is not where a coach wants to come just to be here(unlike football)Miller will look for a bigger stage
I think Stallings may get some of his bad rap based on visual appearance. When watching him during a game, he comes off as a super whiny pr*ck. But I think he's probably one of those guys who would come off a lot better when miked for sound, as he's very well spoken. Just a guess.
Vandy is not going to be a consistent top 25 teams for the simple reason that they cannot recruit the top athletes. They have to hope that they bring in some players who either over achieve. The school, though overrated in my opinion, has the reputation for allowing only top drawer students, which are typically not the best basketball players. Look at Vandy's history. It has made little difference who the coach has been. They have an occasionally mediocre year and the rest are something less in quality. It is what they always have been are they are not likely to change just because they change coaches. The Vandy coaching position is truly either a destination for a non-ambitious coach or a stepping stone to better or to the end of a career.
Didn't they win the NCAA women's bowling championship a couple of years ago? So there's that too..........
That is definitely true, although I think Stallings has a little more around the edges than Dukey V.
Well said.
I have always been in Stallings' corner, but he has done a TERRIBLE job with this team. Obviously, the total crap performance Saturday was bad, but what about the other 7 losses? We have played extremely soft all year and nervous. We have multiple players playing scared and that is a direct reflection of Kevin Stallings and what he is getting out of this team.
People that say this team doesn't have talent don't have a single clue of what they are talking about. This team has 3 1st round draft picks on it and is 11-8. That's disgusting.
If Stallings doesn't take this team to the NCAA Tourney, he needs to be fired.
People around here are sick of him and his poor performing teams.
-And yes, he's an elite x's and 0's coach, but results do matter.
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