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SOT: Cassidy Rowe leaving Kentucky WBB; ending basketball career.

I agree with you. That’s all he needs to do and it could be fixed quickly.

I just find it hard to believe he would tell her you’re done here at UK, no scholarship, no walk-on status, no nothing. If so, then he’s an absolutely terrible person. Thats why it makes more sense to me that she quit or chose not take a walk on status. He should give some clarity.
She clearly didn't quit. Everyone around her has made that clear.
 
You’re right. Football has more scholarships so keeping someone who isn’t good enough isn’t as impactful as it is in basketball. It’s much more important in basketball to have those quality players. Glad you realize that.

Dwight Perry, Kevin Galloway, and Michael Porter would have all been seniors on Cal’s first team that didn’t make it through the coaching change. So there is 3 that Cal told to kick rocks.
I actually do think that is different. If he had let her go last year, when he got here, like Cal did with those players, that would have sucked, but a coach has the right to build his team. He kept her on the roster her junior year. I'm sorry, its different. And once he kept her for her junior year, you let her graduate and go through senior night.
 
I actually do think that is different. If he had let her go last year, when he got here, like Cal did with those players, that would have sucked, but a coach has the right to build his team. He kept her on the roster her junior year. I'm sorry, it’s different. And once he kept her for her junior year, you let her graduate and go through senior night.
The coach has a right to build his team. I actually think it was more upstanding for him to keep her last year and gives her a shot to earn a roster spot this year. Not even giving her an opportunity would’ve been worse.

I do agree however that he should’ve let her go through senior night this year since she has already graduated.
 
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I hate to see this too, but with the new transfer roles, etc. it comes as a package deal. Coach has a primary job, winning. Keeping a SR that he inherited but really wants to recruit over COULD cost him a recruit. And at the end of the day, its his team. We accepted transfers, some of them SRs.

I love that this kid bleeds blue. But the coach that recruited her got fired. She was only getting 4 minutes a game and while the effort was there .... she wasn't SEC ready. No shame in that. Its a tough league. But her love for UK and where she fits in his program just may not vibe. Both can be true.
 
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People saying "coaches do this everywhere, it's a business". No, they don't. Go scour the interwebs and find all the examples of a coach telling a would be senior that they should leave the team before their last year. People can try to sugar coat this, or excuse it, or make excuses. They facts are Brooks (for whatever the reasons) told a graduating senior that she shouldn't remain on the team and graduate from the program that she gave three years to, and pay to finish her degree. It's BS, no matter how anyone wants to spin it, you can't make it not BS. The balls on Brooks to do this and think it's ok is amazing!! Dude better be fielding the 92 Dream Team is he needs roster spots THAT bad.
Just for clarification, she has already graduated with her bachelors degree, so that was paid for. Not that it changes your mind on it being a bad look, but she wasn't kicked to the curb before graduating.
 
I don’t know the whole story and maybe we never will. Pushing a senior out when they’ve stayed their whole career is pretty terrible. Especially when the roster got expanded.

Low class move and has tainted my opinion of Brooks.
 
I will go against the grain and take emotions out of it.

If she was from Iowa or New Mexico, would there be this much outrage if a coach asked a senior to be to transfer out in hopes of landing a better piece?
 
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I will go against the grain and take emotions out of it.

If she was from Iowa or New Mexico, would there be this much outrage if a coach asked a senior to be to transfer out in hopes of landing a better piece?
You want to take the emotions out of something related to UK athletics? Interesting.

Her uncle was on KSR at the end of the show yesterday. Said Brooks pulled her scholarship. Dick move. Since there are no longer walkons, will be interesting if his daughter is still on the team as well.

This won't build him any favoritism with the fanbase. It'll get ignored as long as wins, but if he doesn't...well.

And lets be COMPLETELY honest...Am I the only one that gets the used car salesman/just a little too slick vibes from Brooks? There's just something about him that's disingenuous.
 
You want to take the emotions out of something related to UK athletics? Interesting.

Her uncle was on KSR at the end of the show yesterday. Said Brooks pulled her scholarship. Dick move. Since there are no longer walkons, will be interesting if his daughter is still on the team as well.

This won't build him any favoritism with the fanbase. It'll get ignored as long as wins, but if he doesn't...well.

And lets be COMPLETELY honest...Am I the only one that gets the used car salesman/just a little too slick vibes from Brooks? There's just something about him that's disingenuous.
Oh, his daughter is on the team too? Her spot is safe 🙄
 
I actually do think that is different. If he had let her go last year, when he got here, like Cal did with those players, that would have sucked, but a coach has the right to build his team. He kept her on the roster her junior year. I'm sorry, its different. And once he kept her for her junior year, you let her graduate and go through senior night.
This.

If he cuts her last year then she’s also an incoming Jr and could have transferred to play without it being as detrimental to her academic timeline.

If she’s going for her DPT, she’s likely in UKs 3-3 program where she was “pre-DPT”

Leaving now would set her timeline back a year if not 2. Leaving after her Soph year she could have still slid easily into another schools tradition 4 years undergrad and applied to UKs DPT (or another schools DPT).

Leaving this year and having to apply to another school DPT program probably sets her back 2 years due to losing transfer credits. Even with zero credits lost, it’s too late in the cycle to apply for the upcoming year of medical professional programs
 
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For sure, but she doesn't play much and she probably isn't the source of any turmoil on the team. Nobody on the team can complain that the coach is showing her favoritism if she isn't playing.
Except for the multi year player going into her senior year who was told there wasn’t a roster spot.

Yeah, a rotation player isn’t going to claim favoritism but when comparing apples to apples it’s clear favoritism. Maybe his kid should transfer to Transy for a year and come back next season
 
The solution is to take her on as a student assistant to the strength and conditioning/Athletic Trainer “coach” assisting in preventative and rehabilitation stuff for the team

It allows her to continue to be part of the program she’s dedicated herself to and walk at senior day; while also giving her experience in her future field of physical therapy
 
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Except for the multi year player going into her senior year who was told there wasn’t a roster spot.

Yeah, a rotation player isn’t going to claim favoritism but when comparing apples to apples it’s clear favoritism. Maybe his kid should transfer to Transy for a year and come back next season
We don't know what she was told. We don't know the inner workings of the team and how they treat each other. Girls/women can be incredibly vicious to each other, especially on a team. We cannot assume that Rowe is wanted around the team just because we want her there as nativist fans.
 
The solution is to take her on as a student assistant to the strength and conditioning/Athletic Trainer “coach” assisting in preventative and rehabilitation stuff for the team

It allows her to continue to be part of the program she’s dedicated herself to and walk at senior day; while also giving her experience in her future field of physical therapy
You are still making an assumption that she is wanted around the team. We don't know that.

For all we know, the rest of the team wants her gone just because she follows Riley Gaines on social media. That's how society works right now. People get ostracized for the pettiest stuff, especially when it comes to politics and social stances.
 
You want to take the emotions out of something related to UK athletics? Interesting.

Her uncle was on KSR at the end of the show yesterday. Said Brooks pulled her scholarship. Dick move. Since there are no longer walkons, will be interesting if his daughter is still on the team as well.

This won't build him any favoritism with the fanbase. It'll get ignored as long as wins, but if he doesn't...well.

And lets be COMPLETELY honest...Am I the only one that gets the used car salesman/just a little too slick vibes from Brooks? There's just something about him that's disingenuous.
Got 2 daughters associated with the team. So he ought to get it. He always spoke highly of her. Tough on the parents as well. Stayed when he wanted her last year. 15 scholarships - cmon she’s plenty good enough to help the team even if just in practice. Great student. Enthusiastic teammate. Fan favorite from EKY. In grad school- does she lose that funding?

Wish Kenny would make a statement on it. If a difference of opinion was the reason. We just don’t know? Seems like a good guy and this is out of character.
 
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Statistically I can see why he'd want her gone. However, you have 15 scholarships. You mean to tell me an SEC experienced Sr couldn't be helpful to the team as a practice player in her last season? Sounds more personal than professional to me.
I was just getting ready to respond with the same thing. As BBN, we have always wanted players who played for the name on the front of the jersey. Sounds to me like she did. She would rather not play than to play for anyone else. She may not have started or been one of the best players on the team, but you can't tell me her experience wouldn't have been helpful at some point. Even as the 15th player. If nothing else, she could have come off the bench to give other players a rest. I can't believe that she is such a bad player, that she couldn't have been helpful somewhere, ANY WHERE. I think she just wanted to be a part of the Kentucky team...not another team. I agree...sounds PERSONAL.
 
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Word of this is just starting to really bubble out into the public now. The Kentucky Kernel eviscerated him over this. If half of what they say is true then there is something very very wrong here. There is more than enough room on the roster for her even if she never sat foot on the hardwood again.

Publicity wise this is an absolute disaster for Brooks. Not only does it harm his integrity here in Kentucky, where let's face it, women's Bball isn't a priority, but other players will hear about this and second guess playing for him. Other recruiters will use it as well.

It will be interesting to see how Brooks handles this. He claims to be completely transparent. We will see. If it as others have postulated, that it is a political thing, then he loses again because the fans in this state will not support that sort of thing.

Lastly, some VT fans have some fairly negative things to say about Brooks class wise. I always just assumed that was sour apples, but now...
 
The coach has a right to build his team. I actually think it was more upstanding for him to keep her last year and gives her a shot to earn a roster spot this year. Not even giving her an opportunity would’ve been worse.

I do agree however that he should’ve let her go through senior night this year since she has already graduated.
Yeah, he's also got more on his plate than just "building a team". We all know, not all 15 spots are going to be of value. This is a pissing contest and nothing more.

I coach HS basketball at a pretty large school in MO. We NEVER cut seniors if they've been with us all the way through. We've had to sit a few down and explain to them they're just not going to play, but if they want a spot on the team it is theirs to have because they've been in our program the whole time. Why? Optics and loyalty matters. There is a potential for it to have negative impact, but it's never really played out that way for us. With 15 spots available, IDGAF how you want to look at this, it's a bad look for Brooks. There's zero chance he's using 15 players next season. Just none. Anyone that thinks that or tries to reason it is just being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse.
 
Word of this is just starting to really bubble out into the public now. The Kentucky Kernel eviscerated him over this. If half of what they say is true then there is something very very wrong here. There is more than enough room on the roster for her even if she never sat foot on the hardwood again.

Publicity wise this is an absolute disaster for Brooks. Not only does it harm his integrity here in Kentucky, where let's face it, women's Bball isn't a priority, but other players will hear about this and second guess playing for him. Other recruiters will use it as well.

It will be interesting to see how Brooks handles this. He claims to be completely transparent. We will see. If it as others have postulated, that it is a political thing, then he loses again because the fans in this state will not support that sort of thing.

Lastly, some VT fans have some fairly negative things to say about Brooks class wise. I always just assumed that was sour apples, but now...
The Kernel website put a disclaimer on the article:

*NOTE: The opinions discussed in this article, as is the case with all columns produced by the Kentucky Kernel, is the sole opinion of the writer and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of the staff as a whole.

Is this common for them to do this? If not, then it is further evidence that the situation involves other sensitivities that nobody is publicly discussing.

http://kykernel.com/114359/sports/c...y-rowe-was-an-act-of-betrayal-to-kentuckians/
 
This.

If he cuts her last year then she’s also an incoming Jr and could have transferred to play without it being as detrimental to her academic timeline.

If she’s going for her DPT, she’s likely in UKs 3-3 program where she was “pre-DPT”

Leaving now would set her timeline back a year if not 2. Leaving after her Soph year she could have still slid easily into another schools tradition 4 years undergrad and applied to UKs DPT (or another schools DPT).

Leaving this year and having to apply to another school DPT program probably sets her back 2 years due to losing transfer credits. Even with zero credits lost, it’s too late in the cycle to apply for the upcoming year of medical professional programs
On the same note, I don't see any way she could continue to play WBB at this level and succeed in the DPT program. Almost no way to do this.
 
On the same note, I don't see any way she could continue to play WBB at this level and succeed in the DPT program. Almost no way to do this.
I don’t think this is getting enough attention. I know reports are that she planned to do both but I don’t think she would have been able to and be truly good at both. Maybe KB took this into consideration with his decision. He knew her hopes and dreams with regards to PT and knew both school and basketball would suffer if she did both so he made a decision with her best interest in mind even if it doesn’t look like it.
 
On the same note, I don't see any way she could continue to play WBB at this level and succeed in the DPT program. Almost no way to do this.
She referred to that as her "new dream" though. Was that her original plan for this upcoming academic year if she was still on the team, or is it her new plan now that she is off the team?
 
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I think just about everyone agrees the players deserve to be paid, since the men's game especially (and perhaps? the women's game) is generating big dollars. But that necessarily converts the players to "professionals", and if you are a professional, the world is kind of cut-throat. It is what it is.
 
I don’t think this is getting enough attention. I know reports are that she planned to do both but I don’t think she would have been able to and be truly good at both. Maybe KB took this into consideration with his decision. He knew her hopes and dreams with regards to PT and knew both school and basketball would suffer if she did both so he made a decision with her best interest in mind even if it doesn’t look like it.
It doesn't make sense for the coach to say, "I'm sorry, but you're off the team because I don't think you can manage your time with studies and athletics. I'm doing this for you."

Shouldn't that be her choice? And like I said above, it's her "new dream." Her new plan. That may not have been her plan this upcoming year but now it is with basketball being ruled out.
 
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It doesn't make sense for the coach to say, "I'm sorry, but you're off the team because I don't think you can manage your time with studies and athletics. I'm doing this for you."

Shouldn't that be her choice? And like I said above, it's her "new dream." Her new plan. That may not have been her plan this upcoming year but now it is with basketball being ruled out.
The coach is responsible for looking out for the player. That could be part of it. If it wasn’t her plan, she wouldn’t have already applied and been admitted. She would have waited until basketball was over. Every thing I’ve seen said she had indeed planned to do both. It is possible that KB knew it wouldn’t work (possibly even from a previous experience) so he considered it all when making decisions. It’s not as far fetched as you make it out to be.
 


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Kenny pulled her scholarship and told her she was off the team. She and her family were blindsided by it. So I don't think she just decided to step away. I don't think she and Kenny agreed it was best for her studies. Her family is openly saying Kenny unilaterally made the decision.

That's his right as the coach. He has to do what he thinks is best for the team.

But for f$%k's sake, can we stop acting like there's something else going on.
 
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Per her father:

Kenny pulled her scholarship and told her she was off the team. She and her family were blindsided by it. So I don't think she just decided to step away. I don't think she and Kenny agreed it was best for her studies. Her family is openly saying Kenny unilaterally made the decision.

That's his right as the coach. He has to do what he thinks is best for the team.

But for f$%k's sake, can we stop acting like there's something else going on.


That’s also coming from a very biased/ one-sided position.
 
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That’s also coming from a very biased/ one-sided position.
I mean...

People's theories are "She decided to step away because she wasn't playing." "She decided to step away to focus on school"

If those are the reasons and they are on GOOD terms with Kenny--there's no reason to have a bias. Why be biased when you CHOSE to give up your scholarship?

That doesn't make sense.
 
So like most said , he kicked her off the team .. sorry way to operate , I was starting to lean in the lady Cats but I’ll have a hard time rooting for this guy now .
 
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That's what I've been kinda hearing too. Kinda losing just a smidge of respect for Brooks on that. If a player wants to stay for their SENIOR year, even if its as a walk on, you let them stay.
No question. This was a classic situation where you sit her down and explain that its going to be hard to get her the minutes she wants next year and just wanted to be upfront about that . . . but after that there its 1000% her decision from there and you dont make it for her. No team NEEDS the 15th spot for anybody over a home grown senior. The PR blunder here is hard to believe.
 
Shitty last few weeks for Brooks. Loses two games he should have won, then asks a state kid to transfer before her senior year; after she’s given her blood, sweat, and tears to the program. Pushes her out? If he doesn’t fill 15 schollies with good players, he needs to get hell from someone. Lost a little respect for the guy, for both the coaching the last two and this blunder of a decision. Doesn’t make sense.
No decent coach needs more than 10 good players to do what they want to do. The rest are roster fillouts anyway and you certainly make room for one of those to be a senior from Ky.
 
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