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Sorry I am not a Ben Simmons Fan

SI College Hoops ‏@si_ncaabb 7m7 minutes ago

Ben Simmons mocks Drake after beating Kentucky http://on.si.com/22KWKJ6 pic.twitter.com/6Vq4dX69iZ

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Agree with OP. Bit of a cocky attitude which was evident with his little back and forth dribble at nearly half court as if he was going to "take" Briscoe to town. There was something about his demeanor that turned me off as a fan, and made me thankful that he didn't choose UK.


Jesus Dude that take is worse than your cycling posts.
 
We should cut Ulis. Something about him bothers me and it makes perfect sense to revoke his scholarship even though he's our best player and has some cockiness to him. I just don't like players that are good and show off.
 
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He's a bit arrogant. I agree with the op. Ultimately, I really don't care. He's a kid.

Definitely not 6'10....Marcus Lee was listed at 6'9 and he was 2 or 3 inches taller than Simmons.

Maybe, but Simmons plays 3 inches taller and more than 5 mins
 
I agree that the Simmons hype is a little out of control. He is the best player in college basketball currently but he isn't half the player and prospect that Lebron was at the same age. And any team that drafts him expecting the next Lebron will be disappointed. I would love to have him at UK because he is a fantastic player. But the NBA is full of players with the same measurables and skill set. He will likely be an all-star in the NBA but I don't see him being the best player in the world at any point. But I could be wrong, I am all the time. I should add that I don't have a problem with the way he acts. Seems like the typical elite athlete.

If Simmons develops a jumper,
He will.
he will be a top 10 player in the league in 5 years. At 6'10" and 260 the dude is an ELITE finisher, rebounder, and passer RIGHT NOW. You're right that the NBA has lots of players that possess some of those skills, but not all of them.

If he was at UK the hype would be 10x what it is now.
 
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If Simmons develops a jumper,
He will.
he will be a top 10 player in the league in 5 years. At 6'10" and 260 the dude is an ELITE finisher, rebounder, and passer RIGHT NOW. You're right that the NBA has lots of players that possess some of those skills, but not all of them.

If he was at UK the hype would be 10x what it is now.

He is listed as 6'10" and 225 not 260. The guy for Milwaukee Giannis Antekounmpo compares to him in both size and skill. Antekounmpo is actually heavier at 222 lbs . Antekounmpo is also more athletic than Simmons, there is a reason he is known as the Greek Freak, and he isn't setting the NBA on fire. I agree that Simmons is a fantastic prospect and should be the number 1 pick. The NBA has lots of guys as big as him, as athletic as him, and at this point stronger than him. I just don't think he will take the NBA by storm like Lebron or Magic did. And I bring those two up because ESPN keeps comparing him to those two.
 
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You did see the shenanigans Skal was pulling just prior to, right? Slinging Simmons down after a grabbed rebound. Ramming into him on the way down the floor after. That love tap was warranted.

I would have just waited until Skal wasn't looking and pulled his shorts down to his knees. Bad Skal. So Simmons pulls a gut punch while two officials watched, smart play.
 
Link to replay.

Start at 11:30, on Victor's made free throw. Skal slips and falls, grabs jersey and pulls Simmons down. Then gives him the ole chest bump while running down the floor. The "love tap" came after that.

Simmons had a Duke tendency when it comes to falls and charges. But he is the #1 player from a talent level.
 
That was enough for me. Punk move.

Oh, your not gonna perpetually kiss this kid's ass like everyone else?

Kudos. His body language was awful. Arrogant.

Funny how everyone hated on T Jones and his roars after dunks, but Ben "almighty God of the world" Simmons acts like a brat and everyone jumps to his defense. Screw it. No love for me, I hate his guts.
 
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He is listed as 6'10" and 225 not 260. The guy for Milwaukee Giannis Antekounmpo compares to him in both size and skill. Antekounmpo is actually heavier at 222 lbs . Antekounmpo is also more athletic than Simmons, there is a reason he is known as the Greek Freak, and he isn't setting the NBA on fire. I agree that Simmons is a fantastic prospect and should be the number 1 pick. The NBA has lots of guys as big as him, as athletic as him, and at this point stronger than him. I just don't think he will take the NBA by storm like Lebron or Magic did. And I bring those two up because ESPN keeps comparing him to those two.

Again, there are lots of guys in the league that are more athletic than Simmons. There are better passers, there are better shooters, and there are guys that are bigger and stronger. My point is there's only a handful that have more than one or two of those elite skills or physical attributes, and Simmons will be one of those guys.

And by the way, there's no chance the dude playing last night was 225 lbs. After searching again I saw him listed at 240, which is probably closer to his current weight.

Go ahead and leave yourself a little note somewhere that you'll find in 6-7 years that will remind you that you once compared Giannis Antekounmpo to Ben Simmons. Should be a riot.
 
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Again, there are lots of guys in the league that are more athletic than Simmons. There are better passers, there are better shooters, and there are guys that are bigger and stronger. My point is there's only a handful that have more than one or two of those elite skills or physical attributes, and Simmons will be one of those guys.

And by the way, there's no chance the dude playing last night was 225 lbs. After searching again I saw him listed at 240, which is probably closer to his current weight.

Go ahead and leave yourself a little note somewhere that you'll find in 6-7 years that will remind you that you once compared Giannis Antekounmpo to Ben Simmons. Should be a riot.

They are comparable physically and skill wise. Everything you say about Simmons was said about Antekounmpo. Will Simmons be better? Yes. But at this point in time they are comparable. Look I think Simmons is going to be great and I enjoy watching him. All I'm saying is he isn't the talent or prospect that Lebron or Magic was, which is what is being said. And Antekounmpo is a very good NBA player, any player being drafted would love to have the career he has had so far. He is being hyped as the next basketball great and as a transcendent talent. Does he have that potential? Yes. But that is not the given it is being billed as.
 
Lmao old heads always lose their stuff when a talented kid shows some immaturity.

Yes, judge someone off 1 action on a competitive playing field being televised. You people have never spent 1 second with them outside the court.

These same people will go around defending every action DeMarcus Cousins does. Labeling him " mis-understood sweetheart" Lol.
 
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Love him! Didn't force anything (5 shots) and made the team and every other player on the floor better. AD-ish. How they've lost 5 games is puzzling...
 
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They are comparable physically and skill wise. Everything you say about Simmons was said about Antekounmpo. Will Simmons be better? Yes. But at this point in time they are comparable. Look I think Simmons is going to be great and I enjoy watching him. All I'm saying is he isn't the talent or prospect that Lebron or Magic was, which is what is being said. And Antekounmpo is a very good NBA player, any player being drafted would love to have the career he has had so far. He is being hyped as the next basketball great and as a transcendent talent. Does he have that potential? Yes. But that is not the given it is being billed as.

My previous rantings aside, I like the Greek Freak a lot actually, but I just think Simmons will end up being quite a bit better. I don't think he's gonna be one of the 10-15 greatest of all time like Magic or Lebron, but I do think he'll be closer to the skill level of those two than he will the skill level of Antekounmpo.
 
Let's see he is 18 yrs old. He is considered the best player in the country. He is being compared to Lebron and Magic when they were his age. He is ESPN's current flavor of the day. How many folks on this board would feel "cocky" if that were them and blessed with this talent this kid has. I know I probably would if all of that praise had been heaped on me when I was 18 yrs old. I bet those saying he is cocky and arrogant would feel differently about him if he were wearing the Blue and White. Speaking of cocky and arrogant, I believe that kind of describes our own Jamal Murray in my opinion.
 
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Love him! Didn't force anything (5 shots) and made the team and every other player on the floor better. AD-ish. How they've lost 5 games is puzzling...

Not puzzling at all. they had a couple guys miss some games but really UK stunk up the gym last night and LSU only pulled away at the end. The Cats could have won that game with a few more timely makes. If Quarterman has one of his stinko games we might have won anyway.
 
He's pretty cocky. It's not like it's a rule that you have to be cocky. Humility is allowed.

Of course we've had our share of cocky too. And I love them all...because they were Cats.

I think the thing with Simmons is that he has a bit of Eddie Haskel in him. But whatever. Great player, and of course I'd love him in blue.

I've always looked at him as a rich man's Lamar Odom. I don't think he'll be Lebron or Magic good. Probably not AD/Durant good. But at least a consistent All Star if healthy.
 
Agree with OP. Bit of a cocky attitude which was evident with his little back and forth dribble at nearly half court as if he was going to "take" Briscoe to town. There was something about his demeanor that turned me off as a fan, and made me thankful that he didn't choose UK.
Not like we could have used Simmons on our frontline anyway >insert sarcasm <.
 
When you are a College freshman and every time you look at ESPN you see yourself being touted as the next Lebron and by the way he has Lebrons number in his cell phone...add to that next season you will be a very wealthy person provided you don't get injured and you have a formula for making it hard to be humble. I thought the little love taps he and Skal exchanged were about as hard as two 5 year old girls hitting one another didn't see anything to cause permanent injury and I can't see anything to get fired up against Ben Simmons I am sure Poythress and Lee will be excited to see him when he visits Lexington.
 
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This thread for those who don't want to read it all....

OP: I don't care much for Ben Simmons. Seems too cocky for my tastes.

Others: Sir, how DARE you. How dare you deprive this young man his well earned right to talk some ****.

OP's defenders: He made fun of Drake. He made fun of our team.

Others: Oh, like UK players never showed their ass. Give me a break.

Rinse, lather, repeat
 

I see that now. As I said above, trying to do two things at once and not paying much attention. I do know how to count and do realize that 225 is greater than 222. Was trying to point out that they were pretty well the same size.
 
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