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Our offensive overall stats have been pretty bad all year. Honestly partly on Stoops, part on the OC. Stoops clearly has his fingerprints on what the OC runs.
It all starts with the line. Their poor play limits the play calling and makes the play calling look bad.
 
It all starts with the line. Their poor play limits the play calling and makes the play calling look bad.
It's sad that the collective crappiness of the line has derailed a top ten QB, fantastic array of WR weapons, and great RB in CRod. There's five turnstiles standing around every play. I'm terrified of what next year has in store without Levis and Rodriguez.
 
We have a few skilled players that are talented, but let's not get confused here and compare them to Bama or Georgia. We probably don't have one offensive lineman starting, that Bama or Georgia would even recruit. And THAT'S where the problem is with this team
Wrong. Horsey was preseason All SEC. Cox was a mid season All American last year. Flax was the number one Juco. Manning was one of the top OL transfers that started at Auburn. Bama, Clemson and Georgia all wanted Burton and Goodwin. Buford was a 4 star. Young was a 4 star. There’s plenty of talent at OL. The problem is bad coaching and bad schemes.
 
Wrong. Horsey was preseason All SEC. Cox was a mid season All American last year. Flax was the number one Juco. Manning was one of the top OL transfers that started at Auburn. Bama, Clemson and Georgia all wanted Burton and Goodwin. Buford was a 4 star. Young was a 4 star. There’s plenty of talent at OL. The problem is bad coaching and bad schemes.
LOL, and there you go, getting caught up in awards and stars. The proof is watching them. Terrible feet, no quickness, and to be frank, they look incredibly weak
 
It all starts with the line. Their poor play limits the play calling and makes the play calling look bad.
The offensive line has not been great but it’s the opposite of what you’re saying. It’s the pro style offense that’s exposing them, not the other way around. Our offensive scheme this year has been dreadful. Hell it’s all the announcers talked about all night. They couldn’t believe how bad it was.
 
LOL, and there you go, getting caught up in awards and stars. The proof is watching them. Terrible feet, no quickness, and to be frank, they look incredibly weak
I guess then you are right. We must’ve literally misjudged the talent of all 14 OL on the roster. They’re all small, weak and slow and had a hard time blocking even Youngstown State. How did we misjudge them so badly 🙄
 
Wrong. Horsey was preseason All SEC. Cox was a mid season All American last year. Flax was the number one Juco. Manning was one of the top OL transfers that started at Auburn. Bama, Clemson and Georgia all wanted Burton and Goodwin. Buford was a 4 star. Young was a 4 star. There’s plenty of talent at OL. The problem is bad coaching and bad schemes.

Last year set us back. No question.
 
55 yards and only 5 touches for CRod in 2nd half. Scrang either had a massive brain fart or he just called the worst game of his life.
Same brain farts occurred at the 6 yard line in the ole miss game with 1:10 remaining in game as well. He just is trying to get cute for no reason I believe.
 
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Yenser should be fired immediately.
This as well, no way our talent is that bad.
Wrong. Horsey was preseason All SEC. Cox was a mid season All American last year. Flax was the number one Juco. Manning was one of the top OL transfers that started at Auburn. Bama, Clemson and Georgia all wanted Burton and Goodwin. Buford was a 4 star. Young was a 4 star. There’s plenty of talent at OL. The problem is bad coaching and bad schemes.
agreed, no way we should be this bad! We couldn’t even block against MAC teams.
 
Our offensive overall stats have been pretty bad all year. Honestly partly on Stoops, part on the OC. Stoops clearly has his fingerprints on what the OC runs.
This right here….. He has always had his fingerprints on what the OC runs and it has shown since he’s been here. What is this OC # 5 or #6 ?
 
The offensive line has not been great but it’s the opposite of what you’re saying. It’s the pro style offense that’s exposing them, not the other way around. Our offensive scheme this year has been dreadful. Hell it’s all the announcers talked about all night. They couldn’t believe how bad it was.
No it isn't. Everything in football starts with the lines. You're just wrong on this one. However, I'm not sold on our OC either.
 
Wrong. Horsey was preseason All SEC. Cox was a mid season All American last year. Flax was the number one Juco. Manning was one of the top OL transfers that started at Auburn. Bama, Clemson and Georgia all wanted Burton and Goodwin. Buford was a 4 star. Young was a 4 star. There’s plenty of talent at OL. The problem is bad coaching and bad schemes.
I agree here. How can guys nobody wanted on Stenberg, Bunchy Stallings, Fortner, Horsey, Cox pan out pretty well and higher rated kids in Burton, Flax,Buford, Young , and now even Cox has regressed play so bad?

The only common denominator is a new coach and OC
 
We have a few skilled players that are talented, but let's not get confused here and compare them to Bama or Georgia. We probably don't have one offensive lineman starting, that Bama or Georgia would even recruit. And THAT'S where the problem is with this team
1. The talent concern (if you are correct) is on Stoops. We should have enough talent. We've recruit well enough to dominate MAC opponents and we can't keep them off our QB.
2. We weren't playing Bama. Again, we should have talent to beat USCjr and Ole Miss.

The reason we lost - Kiffin is just a better coach. Stoops may be a better person, better dude (depending on your definition) but Kiffin can coach X's and O's at a higher level, make in game adjustments better, etc.

Don't get me wrong. Stoops is a good coach but not great and will never be as he's too stubborn and not secure enough to get out of his comfort zone.

Development - while Stoops seemed good at developing lineman (starting to rethink that premise) and LB's, he's historically been bad at QB development. Exasperate that by having our star QB go down and we don't have the scheme or talent to beat a team like USCjr. What makes things worse is, we can't even play low mistake FB and win the ST battle sp we get dominated by Shane Beamer.

I hope he does some Calipari level soul searching (when he went to the DDMO at Memphis and revamped his staff after 2020) to change his mentality and move forward. But he's fat, happy, is risk adverse, and has a great job. Not sure why he'd take a shot at being great with the downside of losing this gig.
 
We didn't lose to Ole Miss because of bad coaching. Nor were we outcoached. We simply and blatanty DID NOT EXECUTE.

Same for USC.

The first 3 min of the game last night. Erase the 7 points, different outcome, different rest of the game.

Then we let a punt get blocked. Defense bails us out. Take the ball well into usc territory and miss a FG. Should be up 10-0 at the half.

Instead we get behind immediately, then 10 in the 3rd and go away from mixing things up well. When we had the right play call, we didn't execute. When we're not executing, we can't overcome the horseshit officiating.

If we do execute, we're tied looking to take a lead in 4 of our 2nd half posessions. Worse case were driving for the final field goal instead of needing to catch up late with a tired USC defense that can't stop CRod. SHOULD HAVE BEEN a manageable game. Instead it's a bad loss
 
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We didn't lose to Ole Miss because of bad coaching. Nor were we outcoached. We simply and blatanty DID NOT EXECUTE.

Same for USC.

The first 3 min of the game last night. Erase the 7 points, different outcome, different rest of the game.

Then we let a punt get blocked. Defense bails us out. Take the ball well into usc territory and miss a FG. Should be up 10-0 at the half.

Instead we get behind immediately, then 10 in the 3rd and go away from mixing things up well. When we had the right play call, we didn't execute. When we're not executing, we can't overcome the horseshit officiating.

If we do execute, we're tied looking to take a lead in 4 of our 2nd half posessions. Worse case were driving for the final field goal instead of needing to catch up late with a tired USC defense that can't stop CRod. SHOULD HAVE BEEN a manageable game. Instead it's a bad loss
So was it poor execution or bad coaching that CRod only got five touches in the second half?
 
Fair enough but we’re not rotating this year either. Won’t that set us back next year?

Clearly we can do better than we are. But circling wagons around the reason being not rotating last year just doesn't make sense to me. At this point, it's a more believable story that we didn't rotate because this is what they saw from these guys. We got a taste in the Iowa game. And Wolford probably goes to bama anyway cuz bama, but maybe he also knew what it was going to look like. But i do agree that we are currently asking these guys to do things they aren't capable of doing.
 
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I got news for most you, you can replace two tackles and expect to have great pass protection. That’s at every level expect the NFL. Hell even Bama has had issues in past with pass protection after a mass exodus of Oline starters and talent. The interior line has played pretty well for the most in pass pro but the edges are trash.
 
Yenser should be fired immediately.
Not sure about now, but it has to be on the agenda for review. I feel like Scangarello made some of his missteps out of lack of faith in Yensers unit. They both need to be fixing the problem or getting to a work around asap. All trouble is starting with that unit. Sheron would have had more success if the protection instilled more faith and didn't leave him in crisis almost from the snap too often.
 
Clearly we can do better than we are. But circling wagons around the reason being not rotating last year just doesn't make sense to me. At this point, it's a more believable story that we didn't rotate because this is what they saw from these guys. We got a taste in the Iowa game. And Wolford probably goes to bama anyway cuz bama, but maybe he also knew what it was going to look like. But i do agree that we are currently asking these guys to do things they aren't capable of doing.
Don't like Wolford, but it starts too look this way. No one to play on the outside. We need to portal in 2 OTs. Unfortunately, it seems we.might have dragged our feet out of fear of our big recruit taking flight. Will we continue to do so?

He is SO big. Are we sure he isn't destined to just be Larry Warford 2.0?
 
So was it poor execution or bad coaching that CRod only got five touches in the second half?
Poor execution. Had we been up 10 like the other poster suggested, we flip it and only have to pass 5 times in the second half. Crod would have ran through a tired SC D

C Rod through the reverse at SC and the missed FG hurt us bad and changed a lot.
 
We didn't lose to Ole Miss because of bad coaching. Nor were we outcoached. We simply and blatanty DID NOT EXECUTE.

Same for USC.

The first 3 min of the game last night. Erase the 7 points, different outcome, different rest of the game.

Then we let a punt get blocked. Defense bails us out. Take the ball well into usc territory and miss a FG. Should be up 10-0 at the half.

Instead we get behind immediately, then 10 in the 3rd and go away from mixing things up well. When we had the right play call, we didn't execute. When we're not executing, we can't overcome the horseshit officiating.

If we do execute, we're tied looking to take a lead in 4 of our 2nd half posessions. Worse case were driving for the final field goal instead of needing to catch up late with a tired USC defense that can't stop CRod. SHOULD HAVE BEEN a manageable game. Instead it's a bad loss
It's amazing how often UK has "not executed" under Stoops purview. But that's not his fault?

Semantics is the game you're playing. Whether you call it execution, adjustments, or preparation, something is missing when they don't execute. That falls solely on Mark Stoops.
 
It's amazing how often UK has "not executed" under Stoops purview. But that's not his fault?

Semantics is the game you're playing. Whether you call it execution, adjustments, or preparation, something is missing when they don't execute. That falls solely on Mark Stoops.

It's fascinating how people give Stoops a pass for his players not executing but other UK coaches do not get the same pass.
 
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Not sure about now, but it has to be on the agenda for review. I feel like Scangarello made some of his missteps out of lack of faith in Yensers unit. They both need to be fixing the problem or getting to a work around asap. All trouble is starting with that unit. Sheron would have had more success if the protection instilled more faith and didn't leave him in crisis almost from the snap too often.
When you have no confidence that the line can protect your QB it’s bound to be pretty limiting as a play caller.
 
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