He played awful against UF, so did the oline, Baker dropped a crucial TD at the very start. Only the defense played that game.
So...whats the excuse now?
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He played awful against UF, so did the oline, Baker dropped a crucial TD at the very start. Only the defense played that game.
He played a third of a quarter last night ... the rest of the game he was basically a high school level QB, how is that ok? (Inb4 line sucks, defense sucks, Towles needs time, Towles needs WRs to catch)
We are 4-1 and you are still complaining. Players and coaches were asleep all night and woke up with 7 mins to play. You are clueless. Ole miss got thumped by Florida two weeks after thumping Bama at Bama! This sport is strange. It's never the same. There are so many factors that go into determining an outcome. Just enjoy that we are 4-1.
These guys would rather us have lost to Eastern just so we could get Barker in the game. Towles played a terrible first half. I actually thought they should give Barker a shot at the beginning of the 2nd half he was playing so bad. But guess what? Towles stepped up and made plays.
The fact you want to put little on the oline is just head in the sand dumb. The oline was so bad they couldn't even open holes up for running backs. Is that Towles fault too? His throws were right where they needed to be for the most part. Receivers are supposed to be able to catch not perfect throws. Good receivers can do that.
Rather than cry over spilt milk you just gotta chalk this up to not respecting your opponent and giving no effort. Stoops will get that fixed I guarantee it.
Instead of blaming Boom for how he acted after the Mizzou game I bet you blame Stoops for not playing him.
The fact you want to put little on the oline is just head in the sand dumb. The oline was so bad they couldn't even open holes up for running backs. Is that Towles fault too? His throws were right where they needed to be for the most part. Receivers are supposed to be able to catch not perfect throws. Good receivers can do that.
Rather than cry over spilt milk you just gotta chalk this up to not respecting your opponent and giving no effort. Stoops will get that fixed I guarantee it.
Instead of blaming Boom for how he acted after the Mizzou game I bet you blame Stoops for not playing him.
Exactly which statement is false genius? That you can't put all the blame on the oline? 90% of the time? Do you do math?
So, people who don't share your opinion are clowns. That statement is the 1st sign of misplaced anger. I guess that makes clowns out of several former players who post here. Stats can be deceiving. We agree on that. But not always. Is 4-1 deceiving? No, it is what it is. With 19 starts left in his career if he stays healthy, Towles is already on Kentucky's top 10 list for most career passing yards. If he continues at his current pace, he will finish his career at #2 on our career passing list. Is that deceiving? This year, Towles has quarterbacked Kentucky to our 1st SEC road win since 2010, and also to our 1st win over a nationally ranked team since 2010. Is that deceiving? You may know a lot about football, I'm sure you do. So does Poe. But your words tell us that you have an ax to grind. If you want a conversation where you know everything and no 1 else in the room knows anything, you will have to have it in your bathroom.
No, people who get on here and bash anyone who criticizes anything UK football are clowns. People who get on last week after one good game and call out every to "eat crow" are clowns.
We can disagree all we want but there's a HUGE contingent (Poe) that immediately bash anyone who isn't happy barely beating an FCS team and posts their frustrations on the board. Anyone who don't pump sunshine.
Go read every post I've made, and while I'm not happy with Towles inconsistency and inaccuracy, and have made it clear, I've never attacked him personally... Probably a great kid. But they get on here and bash anyone who critiques and I will take them to the woodshed and call them clowns for that...
I really didn't see our Oline get destroyed all game last night, obviously they had some trouble with the OSU transfer, but Towles wants to rush outside when he feels pressure instead of just stepping up into the pocket ... go back and watch the game, the middle was open A LOT and he would just run to the sideline ... out of bounds ... behind the line of scrimmage. You're defending his performance against EKU ... freaking EKU ... trying to say how he won us the game ... ITS AGAINST EKU, without Dorian Baker on that field last night refusing to lose we don't win that game.
Many posters on this board would have been happier if Kentucky lost. Count on that. They make themselves too obvious. Some are UL fans masquerading as Kentucky fans. But some are just malcontents who have learned to get attention by bashing our team. Some will always be miserable, no matter what happens. A lot of these goofballs were licking their chops when Kentucky fell behind by 2 TDs. Some of them were so anxious to post that they couldn't even wait till the game ended, and they made idiots out of themselves when Kentucky mounted the comeback. Barker is being groomed as our starting quarterback for 2017-18. That's obvious, since Stoops didn't sign a quarterback in his 2015 class. By then, these people will find other things to complain about. Nothing will ever make them happy.
Well you are wrong again. We played terrible and were not prepared, not happy.
I can find positives unlike some of you. See many of us have watched UK for decades, we usually lose this type of game. That is a positive.
We know that our QB has issues, we also know that when others do not execute his deficiencies are magnified. It was great to see him and the team rebound.
Game is very concerning , Auburn will kill us if we play like that, but it is not all negative and the entire TEAM played bad for 3.5 qtrs, you guys shitting on our QB only is garbage.
You need to go back and watch the first 3.5 quarters he was flushed constantly.
And here is the issue which doesn't make you look smart.
A QB can have a bad game vs anyone, he is throwing the ball, an oline being dominated by a smaller school is much
much much more of an issue.
Pat has the issues of which we agree but poor protection and no run game make those worse, he ended up with better stats than he played but he like others bounced back.
Why does he get all the blame, defense sucked, special teams sucked, oline sucked they all did and they all came back.
Most important fact
WE WON
I am not a Towles apologist but if you look at any good team the receivers have to make catches they are supposed to make (why we lost to Florida) and then the have to make some they are not (why we won last night).
I am pretty sure If you look at some of the better UK teams in the past they had those receivers. This team is developing them, just remember that they are Frosh and Sophs.
GO CATS
WE WON
I am not a Towles apologist but if you look at any good team the receivers have to make catches they are supposed to make (why we lost to Florida) and then the have to make some they are not (why we won last night).
I am pretty sure If you look at some of the better UK teams in the past they had those receivers. This team is developing them, just remember that they are Frosh and Sophs.
GO CATS
You and others should probably save your fingers some blisters and simply quit trying to reason with the posters who, in their football deficient minds, see Towles as this year's Mike Hartline and Barker as this year's Morgan Newton.
No amount of reasoning will convince them that Towles is not the problem and that Barker is not the solution.
The way they see it: Of Towles' 11 completions in his last 12 attempts no less than 10 were incredible catches of poorly thrown passes made by receivers that would already be All-Pro were they not forced to play college football for three years. Neither could you convince them that Barker, if given a chance, would have been anything short of 20 out of 20 with 5 TDs to close out a rout of EKU.
You simply cannot reason with the uninformed and the unreasonable.
Sorry, but you're picking the wrong game to question Towles or whether the backup QB should've played. If anything dude was the MVP of the game down the stretch. Play-calling yet again did him no favors. We only resort to the quick-hitting passes when we're down 14 with 7:00 min to go in the 4th. Being at the game it was amazing how badly our offensive line was getting beaten all night long. I can't even count the number of times that Towles was immediately rushed outside of the pocket because of continual pressure right up the middle.
Towles is about #50 on the list of people you should be criticizing after this game. #1, #2, and #3 are Shannon Dawson, the o-line, and Coach Stoops because of the ultra-conservative gameplan on both sides of the ball and the o-line for allowing pressure up the middle on every single play.
I don't care to read every post. I was just addressing the post where you called people who disagree with you clowns. Maybe they think you are a clown. I think there are a lot of uninformed opinions here, but no reason to call anyone a clown. Poe certainly isn't a clown. I haven't seen anyone say Kentucky played well yesterday. Everyone knows it was a flat performance. But we won. I see arguments between people who are giving up on Stoops and Towles, and people who think a young football team like ours was due for a letdown after beating Missouri and losing a bunch of key players to injuries and personal problems. I played football, I probably know a little more than my share about the game, and I see it from the latter point of view. As for Towles, I just disagree with you. You may think that makes me a clown, but I don't think I have to justify myself to you. Towles is already 1 of the top quarterbacks in Kentucky history. Stats may be deceiving, but this is a fact. People who defend him are just tired of seeing 1 of our best players being bashed for no reason. I think they are right.
Since so many only criticize Towles, it's pretty obvious, except to you apparently, that they do think replacing him would solve our problems. One could argue otherwise only if the other culprits got their share of crap. Net, it's no fallacy.
I remember those two touchdowns that receivers dropped that they had perfectly placed in their bread baskets.
Damn that Towles, though. Damn him.
I have always said we will never have an effective offense without improvement in the OL and skill players who catch well thrown passes, BUT the QB has to have some discipline in his game too. The two INTs were horrible......our WRs had practically NO CHANCE of making a play on balls thrown into double and triple coverage. I like PT a ton, but there is a big difference between "confidence" and a "too cool for school.....devil may care" attitude. His post game interview was telling. He spoke of "if I'm not having fun....I don't need to play" and just making enough plays to win in the end......ALL PLAYS ARE IMPORTANT!!!!!! Especially those that result in turnovers. You cannot just heave the ball up in coverage off your back foot in P5 football. We had to make a major comeback against a FCS squad in part because PT was wild in his decision making and inaccurate in many throws where he did have time to survey the field and deliver. The two good things about this game is (1) we won and (2) CMS has plenty of poor game film to focus the team in preparation for AU (DL, OL...& QB). But, I hope CMS gets PT's attention this week and a half and gets him dialed into disciplined QB play.
GBB! Beat Auburn!
GBB! Beat Auburn!
I don't deny that what you're saying occurs, but very frequently the pocket evaporates 3 seconds in when a DE cruises past a tackle.
Actually TNT speaks the truth you on the other hand have NO idea what you are talking about. Your post as well as the OP don't have a clue about what you are talking about.
Why do you say this?
We obviously had break downs but I do not get how fans can interpret attitudes such as this, other than the Boom escapade. Of course you may have an internal source telling you this, but just from watching the game and the poor execution and players out of position, etc, not sure I see attitude issues.
DJ, checkout these pics on the td's and see if you still think those throws were that bad:
http://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/t...rview-on-the-field.119672/page-4#post-2394926
Thank you for posting those pics and yes, they show exactly what I've been saying which I just posted above.
Could the throws have been worse, absolutely, we've seen that. At least it wasn't behind Badet. But could they have been much better...yes.
Badet's could have been 2 feet closer. Bakers 2 feet longer. Much better is a stretch, especially with PT he has thrown much worse.
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