So What Really Happened with Stephen Paddock and the Las Vegas Shooting
- Thread starter UKMKG
- Start date
Yup.
They put the security guard in Mexico, made sure he had his story straight, and then put him on Ellen, and then not a single peep.
It would be shocking if the Mandalay Bay hadn't already had many meetings with the Las Vegas brass about security over the years. It would also be shocking if Paddock earned his money gambling. So there is a fish in the middle of that story but you're dealing with people who know what the hell they're doing and the Mandalay Bay is going to do the absolute least possible to cooperate with law enforcement and otherwise going to shut up.
My suspicion is that Paddock probably acted alone and was probably an absolute criminal who was involved in multiple scams. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that the autopsy results show he had a brain tumor (whatever is left of his brain after he shot himself with 5.56) or some other organic mental problem. It also wouldn't surprise me that he had some sort of arrangement with the Mandalay Bay where he got special access and worked around security and they are doing everything possible to keep it quiet.
It would surprise me if there was some Alex Jones level conspiracy that involved the Deep State or whatever. If you're going to have government level assets to shoot up a concert from 400 meters away (or whatever) you're going to use a 50 cal machine gun.
The fact everything is so mysterious is probably a product of Paddock being exceptionally smart and awful and Vegas knowing how to shut a story down.
I've heard enough crackpot theories already. It was simply an illuminati blood ritual organized by the deep state. Sometimes things just are as simple as they appear.
Also the facts that he had so many guns in his suite and so much ammo and killed himself well before SWAT showed up are really, really weird to me. So I'm not shitting on speculation, necessarily.
And the security guard's story is complete and total bullshit.
I just think this is going to be one of those rare D. B. Cooper events that history is never going to really understand.
And the security guard's story is complete and total bullshit.
I just think this is going to be one of those rare D. B. Cooper events that history is never going to really understand.
King Sacrifice = JFK
Child Sacrifice = Waco
Tower Sacrifice = 9/11
Pyramid Sacrifice = Vegas
I wonder what will happen tonight with the Super Moon on 12/3 or 33 for those counting at home?
All I know is it isn't what they are telling us. Whether it was our government or the Saudi's you can tell from the first couple of press conferences the sheriff had with the FBI agent next to him that the information was being whitewashed. The Saudi stuff isn't very hard to believe after what has happened to their government lately and what better person to pin it on than "an angry white guy". Case closed.
Guns/ammo can easily be fit into regular luggage. He had been there several days, could have easily taken up a bag or two each day looking perfectly normal.
Yea a golf club bag hard carrier could bring a bunch of guns in undetected. So many guns in the room doesn't bother me, but there are a ton of unanswered questions.
But, if a frigging airliner can vanish with 200 some people on it and nobody knows where exactly it is, then I believe we are never going to know exactly what happened at the Mandalay.
Yes but there should be plenty of video showing he made plenty of trips yet we have seen nothing!!
Given all the pending litigation I doubt we see anything until something goes to court.
That said, what would you expect to see that was damning? People are hauling bags in and out of hotels all the time. Go somewhere with my sister-in-law and you'd swear that she was planning on living there. I mean "how he got them there" is the least interesting thing there could be unless you think he carried the firearms openly.
He's just saying, any other "normal" event, we would know every thing about this guy, would have seen all the surveillance footage, and it would have been broken down 349739437248793 times on every stupid TV show by now. Still photos of him walking into the hotel would be posted everywhere if this were a normal. Debating how he got the guns up there is stupid. He could have easily done it many different ways. We haven't even seen a video clip of anything related to that night....have we?
You’d think a motive beyond him losing a portion of his net worth would be made known by now. After all it was ya know “the deadliest mass shooting committed by an individual in the United States”.
Exactly what I meant. In Boston we had video of the 2 Brothers dropping off the bombs within 36 hours. Numerous Casino Robberies in the past have had video of the suspects actions. Not here. We all know what happened! Somebody shot lots of people from a room at Mandalay Bay Hotel. So I can't see why they are worried about showing the suspect due to possible litigation.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/3...bbery-surveillance-video-showing-suspect.htmlhttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/3...bbery-surveillance-video-showing-suspect.html
This is what I am talking about. They released this on a recent Casino Robbery!! Why no video of Mandalay Bay??
This is what I am talking about. They released this on a recent Casino Robbery!! Why no video of Mandalay Bay??
In Boston the video was taken from cameras owned/operated by the city and on public streets and sidewalks. They were seeking information on who it was. Same with the casino robbery, they are hoping someone recognizes the guy and comes forward with information. With Paddock we know who did the crime. How would video of Paddock in the casino help the case?
Agreed - no reason to let the public see the video. The only people that should be worried about watching it or need to see it are those that are looking for clues on how he got so many weapons in without being noticed. The police and hotel security have probably looked at those things 1000 times trying to figure out how to avoid this risk in the future, but it's likely that it will be impossible short of putting in full luggage inspections and/or metal detectors at check-in.
I think there is a very high chance that no one (EVEN THE ILLUMINATI TRYING TO KILL A SAUDI ARABIAN PRINCE AND STEAL YOUR CHILDREN'S BLOOD! or the legit authorities) will ever know the motive.
If Paddock did this alone and only used unknowing accomplices (which I think is the most likely scenario by a wide margin), then it is so evil and nonsensical that I don't think any rational person can know why.
This story is fascinating because there seems to be no real answer. If some 25 year old male screams "Allahu Akbar!" and starts shooting up a place, it is safe to assume there is going to be a motivation based off of some combo of radicalization and angst. If some 17 year old male shoots up his high school, it is same to assume that he was probably some combo of alienation, prescription pill use, and horrible parenting.
This does not fit any mold.
I find the New Yorker to generally be a fantastically smart publication and love what they right, even if I don't agree with much of it. (They had an incredible piece on the Bin Laden raid before anyone else knew the facts, for instance.)
But this article is so misguided and (to me) silly, that it shows to me that this event is so bizarre that everyone sees their worst dreams in it and there may never be a comprehensible reality:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/searching-for-motives-in-mass-shootings?mbid=nl_Daily 112717 Nonsubs&CNDID=46120484&spMailingID=12446149&spUserID=MTY3ODU4OTU4NjAwS0&spJobID=1282480422&spReportId=MTI4MjQ4MDQyMgS2
This. you sir are correct. Wasn't sure this red pill was being so easily consumed.
That is literal nonsense. Why on earth would anyone attempting to start a Saudi coup by killing a prince in Vegas draw attention to themselves by murdering innocent people at a concert?
As a diversion? Please.
Um...they were bringing attention to the crowd below so they could escape on the roof, duh! Like, get a clue! I guess it was just one crazy person and all the witnesses are dying for no reason. The Saudi Air Force literally had all those floors rented out and the royalty was there. It's what really happened, yo. Maybe do a little research...use some higher lever thinking skills...I don't know. I know it blows people's minds, but it's what really happened.
Mandalay Bay staff interacted with Las Vegas shooter more than 10 times in days before Oct. 1
“Mandalay Bay staff, room service and housekeeping had contact with Paddock or entered his suite more than 10 times over the course of his stay, including the three days leading up to October 1,” an MGM Resorts spokesperson said in an email.
MGM sent the statement in response to questions from the Review-Journal sent Dec. 28 about possible changes to company policies on entering guest rooms without consent.
“There were numerous interactions with Stephen Paddock every day at the resort, including a room service delivery and a call with housekeeping on October 1, all of which were normal in nature,” the MGM Resorts spokesperson said in the email.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...uss-victims-fund-of-las-vegas-shooting-video/
“Mandalay Bay staff, room service and housekeeping had contact with Paddock or entered his suite more than 10 times over the course of his stay, including the three days leading up to October 1,” an MGM Resorts spokesperson said in an email.
MGM sent the statement in response to questions from the Review-Journal sent Dec. 28 about possible changes to company policies on entering guest rooms without consent.
“There were numerous interactions with Stephen Paddock every day at the resort, including a room service delivery and a call with housekeeping on October 1, all of which were normal in nature,” the MGM Resorts spokesperson said in the email.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...uss-victims-fund-of-las-vegas-shooting-video/
I'm wondering how this helps.
This happened because of Hillary, Obama, and their former ass buddies in the former Saudi Regime.
Thankfully the new leadership has taken over Saudi Arabia. It may have saved their country.
Going to be interesting once we find out what the little princes hanging from their toe nails say about several conspiracies.
Does anyone really believe they'll even be honest about what the motive was when they do release it?
I think a poster was right about Vegas paying to cover this up. They are probably liable in a big way and would lose everything.
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Even if it's the worst mass shooting in history. It's not just a catchy slogan to increase tourism.
The only explanation I have read that makes even a little sense for the motivation of Stephen Paddock is that he wanted the casinos to suffer financially since his slip and fall lawsuit was dismissed. He was a self-important unfeeling d!ckhead who thought the world revolved around him, so it's not so incredible that he harbored such petty resentments and concocted such a heinous act as a result.
Good point. But that could have been generic prep, just feeling out the logistics of a plan he intended to carry out in LV.
According to this story, he never checked into the Chicago hotel and "reportedly made online searches of Fenway Park and the Boston Center for the Arts, both of which host summer festivals".
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...vegas-gunman-lollapalooza-20171005-story.html
If he was just testing logistics, why didn't he check into the Chicago hotel, scout the security of the festival on the ground, etc? Why did he scout multiple outdoor festivals in multiple major cities?
If the failed lawsuit against a casino was any motivation at all, it would seem to me that it might have been the straw that broke the camel's back as to which venue he choose to shoot up and nothing more.
Just a little aside: Prince al-Waleed bin Talal was in VERY tight with the Clintons to the tune of $10+ million donated to The Clinton Foundation, and has been very anti-Trump.
Thus, we get the "Saudi Anti-Corruption Purge"
Meanwhile, King Salman and the new Crown Prince Mohammad are very pro-Trump with interests in modernizing Saudi Arabia and moving its economy away from oil dependency. Hence, the controversial $1.4 billion U.S. weapons sale to Saudi Arabia.
The top is from a 2002 episode of The Simpsons, with the bottom being from Trump's Saudi visit this very year. This stuff all ties together on the much larger geo-political scene, with the Saudi family civil war being the motivation for the attempted Vegas hit. The shooting into the crowd was to create a distraction for the assassins to get away. The entire floor above Paddock had been rented out to The Saudi Air Force and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman.
Na. The real life american version has the token black guy in it. Dead giveaway.
Could be.
Probably just bought a new computer and decided to post out of excitement. My guess is an online class taker at western, major: irrigation and immigration control unit specialist - degree seeking.
