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SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PLAYOFFS ARE RENEGOTIATED

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Right now each of the power 5 get 80 million of the top . So take PAC 12 out .
But what about the SEC and BIG . Do they agree to equal splits with ACC And Big 12 ? Why should they ?
My guess is it will be a real problem and we may end up with a BIG AND SEC champion and a minor league champion from the ACC and Big 12 and other conferences .

Isn’t an 9/3 record in the SEC better than a 10/2 or even 11/1 record in the ACC ? How to have half way fair playoffs will be debated to the cows come home.
of course that’s not really the question. The only determining factor will be how the big dogs can make the most MONEY .
 
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Right now the 12 team CFB playoffs has 6 auto slots for conference champs, 6 at large. I'm betting that gets changed to 4 conf champs, 8 at large.
16 teams is definitely coming! Doesn't extend season 1 day either! Best 6 from SEC and Best 6 from Big 10 and 4 more - lol!

Go Big Blue!
 
My guess is it will be a real problem and we may end up with a BIG AND SEC champion and a minor league champion from the ACC and Big 12 and other conferences
Another problem is choosing the SEC champion when there are no divisions and thus no championship game. I can easily see a couple of undefeated teams or even 2 or more 1 loss teams in some seasons. I'm sure they will use some silly tie break formula that is going to make some folks very unhappy.
 
Haha, best situation possible with the 12 team CFB playoff is a 1-loss SEC team that gets left out of the SEC champ game. No question a 1 loss 3rd best in the conference SEC team is in the top 12. That's a week off to heel up, avoid a rough game, rest for playoff action.
 
Right now the 12 team CFB playoffs has 6 auto slots for conference champs, 6 at large. I'm betting that gets changed to 4 conf champs, 8 at large.

As long as the ACC and Big12 remain conferences, and the SEC and Big10 stay a part of the CFB I think we have 5 conference championship when you count the group champion. I could see the number getting cut back to 8 teams with 3 at large. With the recent additions the I think Big12 has passed the ACC.
Another problem is choosing the SEC champion when there are no divisions and thus no championship game. I can easily see a couple of undefeated teams or even 2 or more 1 loss teams in some seasons. I'm sure they will use some silly tie break formula that is going to make some folks very unhappy.

Unless I am missing something. But isn't there suppose to be a championship game between the top 2 teams?
 
Unless I am missing something. But isn't there suppose to be a championship game between the top 2 teams?
I haven't heard one way or the other but what if you have 3 teams with one loss A lost to B, B lost to C and C lost to A, how do you pick? Then on top of that you have a 12 game season, a championship game and at least 3 playoff games, some teams could play 4, that's potentially 16-17 games. Scheduling would seem to be very hard because you are running the post season into the spring academic semester.
 
he's saying what if there are 3 teams 11-1, or 1 undefeated & 2 1 loss teams
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The conference has tiebreaker or had anyway don't know about now with no divisions. The highest ranked team got in the championship game in a situation like Defense is talking about. But my concern is that will change and the SEC office will decide, no one other than Bama or Auburn fans want that.
 
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I haven't heard one way or the other but what if you have 3 teams with one loss A lost to B, B lost to C and C lost to A, how do you pick? Then on top of that you have a 12 game season, a championship game and at least 3 playoff games, some teams could play 4, that's potentially 16-17 games. Scheduling would seem to be very hard because you are running the post season into the spring academic semester.

Exactly.

Playing a season in the SEC plus a title game is enough of a brutal schedule. No other conference compares. That alone is what allowed a b11g team to lead Georgia last season in the playoffs. The superior team pulled it out, but it was pretty clear at the start of the game that the b11g team wasnt nearly as tested and worn down from their season.

Playing 2 more playoff games was already tough given the regular season and title game. Adding another? That's insane
 
Something that is possible will be the fact that because the SEC and B10 are going to be so stacked the days of the usual suspects running tables and ending up with 1 loss or undefeated records is over.

Going to be a lot of traditional big brands with multiple blemishes.

The other side of that coin is, PAC and B12 minus their big boys...Utah, Oregon St, Stanford, TCU, Baylor, or Oklahoma St looking like gang busters.

So how does that factor into rankings, playoff considerations and seedings, bowl invites even post-season awards for coaches and players?

USC, Wash, Oregon, Penn St, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio State...anyone of those teams getting a combination of the others...Nobody is running tables in that conference anymore. 2,3,4 losses may become the norm for all those schools. God help Minnesota, Illinois, Mich St...

"Welcome to the SEC now they know what a murderer's row is like" yeah...add Texas and Oklahoma to it now. Our big dogs aren't running tables with those two, LSU, Auburn, Tenn... throw in a UK and Ole Miss who can sneak up and beat anyone too. Obviously for horns and sooners, they ain't in the B12 anymore. How many dominating double digit win seasons or eras past are those two programs likely going to see now?
 
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Right now the 12 team CFB playoffs has 6 auto slots for conference champs, 6 at large. I'm betting that gets changed to 4 conf champs, 8 at large.
Welp i might be dead wrong. Some rumblings now that both the SEC and Big 10 for new CFB contracts in 2026 will insist on ZERO auto bids. Just the best 12 teams, as ranked by the CFB playoff committee.
 
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Welp i might be dead wrong. Some rumblings now that both the SEC and Big 10 for new CFB contracts in 2026 will insist on ZERO auto bids. Just the best 12 teams, as ranked by the CFB playoff committee.
There is a time when the wealth was spread around to five P5 conferences enough so that I would have been OK with the auto bids, but with the PAC 10 blowup and the B12 major reshuffling I think this is the better way to go, although I'm always suspicious about a committee of people choosing who gets in instead of teams earning it on the field.

That being said if they go with the hand picked system then style points will become a bigger issue and Stoops will have to seriously rethink his 4th quarter strategy of taking the air out with a 10 point lead.
 
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I haven't heard one way or the other but what if you have 3 teams with one loss A lost to B, B lost to C and C lost to A, how do you pick? Then on top of that you have a 12 game season, a championship game and at least 3 playoff games, some teams could play 4, that's potentially 16-17 games. Scheduling would seem to be very hard because you are running the post season into the spring academic semester.

The conference already has a policy in place for this scenario, the highest ranked team goes. That may go out the window with no divisions. But what other criteria can the use? But no doubt this will come up and the people in Birmingham will choose who plays, good luck to the teams not located in Alabama.9
 
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Welp i might be dead wrong. Some rumblings now that both the SEC and Big 10 for new CFB contracts in 2026 will insist on ZERO auto bids. Just the best 12 teams, as ranked by the CFB playoff committee.

Fk the committee approach.

Rank conferences by weight and difficulty and then individual teams within that conference by four yr weighted average, including post-season. Then look at current SOS and results as season progresses.

Toss the USELESS media polls from the equations. Toss the coaches poll. Toss the preseason ask-kissing polls. Start the season ranking with where teams finished last season modified only by Vegas odds of season victories and conf/national rankings. (This usually takes newcomers, departures, and injuries into account better than media spin ever has.)

As additional data to finesse the rankings, computer sims and mods (ai) to preplay games as a best of 10, adapting qualifications, improvement, and personnel as the season progresses to ascertain rankings. Teams that would likely lose games to teams below them shouldn't be ranked above them.

You can still poll the coaches and media for worthless talking points, but they have no business ranking teams based on their input.
 
Right now the 12 team CFB playoffs has 6 auto slots for conference champs, 6 at large. I'm betting that gets changed to 4 conf champs, 8 at large.

I think it will drop to 5 champions counting the group schools. The reason for that is the ACC better than the Big12? FSU is doing all they can to get out and they aren't even the best program today. LSU is going to beat them 3 TDs+. Would have if it were a November game last year, but it wasn't and they squeeked out a win, LSU will light them up this fall.
 
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If we get down to 60 or 70 teams we might end up with rings of playoffs to boost revenue. That would give you a better idea of top to bottom difficulty in a conf because you wouldn't have 3 good teams in a bowl and the rest of a trash conference not getting exposed.

I'd hope they do 5 groups of 8 or something like that. IDK with the sitting out for the draft if you'd get good games on the loser side of a bracket or people would even want to do that but revenue is revenue. They'd give up 3 weak ooc games to get 2 more highly rated tv matchups.
 
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