Both are good numbers, even having played our lesser opponents.
We are currently 3rd in scoring defense in the SEC behind UGA and Bama.
We are currently 3rd in scoring defense in the SEC behind UGA and Bama.
So far, 17th in Scoring defense; 25th in scoring offense.
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Quit crying about people bitching.
As far as our scoring offense goes. Our defense has scored a bunch of our points. 2 pick 6s in 1 game, a fumble recovery for a touchdown in another game. Our offense is not that good.
Plus we had 1 kickoff return for a touchdown.
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I don't know why people are surprised and upset. CMS is what he is. He's a decent program builder but a mediocre in game coach. He's terrible at time management and his teams play inconsistent football, but he does recruit big monsters to carve gaping holes for his running backs to scamper through. We're always going to be in that 7-5 to 10-2 range with him. Which, considering our history, is stellar and he will end up being our greatest head coach ever, if he isn't already.
That is how I see it. The defense is better then those stats suggest as they’ve scored or set up so many offensive scores and been on field extra for doing so
Offensive numbers aren’t as good as pointed out and I’d throw in two special teams that put us in a spot to score…and fg unit is money this year. Also I’d add the offense is turnover prone to boot
Coen has work to do to get his unit to play cleaner football and White is humming along as usual in his side of ball…and Boulware has his unit doing a very good job. Good thing is Coen js a talent snd has shown he can grow an offense
Time may prove you right, but until December of 2018, there were identical posts saying “we are always going to be in that 5-7, to 7-5 range with him.”
The hire and re-hire of Coen is a sure sign Stoops is aiming for more than we have done. Having two Top notch QB’s committed for the next two classes is a good sign it might come to fruition.
I won’t put our potential with Stoops in a box.
With this schedule, 4 cup cakes and then 4 of our 5 ranked opponents at home, and this team oozing with talent on both sides of the ball and our OC and DC, UK/Stoops have “a chance” to take Kentucky football to the next level this season.
The first Coach in the History of UK football smart enough to hire a full-time recruiter from Ohio who could recruit Ohio!!
After 4 games this is how I see things:
1. Leary is more mobile but less accurate than I thought he would be
2. The OLine is just about the same as last year
3. Ray Davis is what I expected, he is a good SEC back. I think our RB's as a whole are as good as last season. Maybe a bit different but solid
4. The defense is better than last season, we have solid players at all 3 levels and a bit more depth.
5.Special teams have improved all over the field
6.WR and TE are a work in progress, they make great/good plays but on occasion fail to make the easy/simple plays they should make
I expected this team to look a bit better overall but we are 4-0 and we really haven't been tested. I think we are good enough to beat UF if we don't beat ourselves.
I think the SEC is better top to bottom but minus the one or two teams that are clearly better than the rest of college football(Vandy is the exception to being better)
1. Leary is more mobile but less accurate than I thought he would be
2. The OLine is just about the same as last year
3. Ray Davis is what I expected, he is a good SEC back. I think our RB's as a whole are as good as last season. Maybe a bit different but solid
4. The defense is better than last season, we have solid players at all 3 levels and a bit more depth.
5.Special teams have improved all over the field
6.WR and TE are a work in progress, they make great/good plays but on occasion fail to make the easy/simple plays they should make
I expected this team to look a bit better overall but we are 4-0 and we really haven't been tested. I think we are good enough to beat UF if we don't beat ourselves.
I think the SEC is better top to bottom but minus the one or two teams that are clearly better than the rest of college football(Vandy is the exception to being better)
Vince is the highest paid recruiting assistant in college football....so UK has more than done for Vince.
White is a well paid DCoordinator....not as well paid as Vince compared to his peers....but Ky has him in a nice spot that he leaves UK for a head coaching job...not an assistant job.
1. Agreed.
2. Mmmmmm. Rewatch our first four games last year . . . . Someone posted our sacks are down from 13 to 3, but that might just be the first 3 games of each season.
3. Agreed.
4. It might be better. Another year of training for Walker has kept him in the games.
5. The biggest change is our special teams improvements.
6. Agreed.
As to Number 1, Leary has surprised me with his ability to step up to avoid outside pressure, and then smoothly “slide” left or right to continue keeping pursuers at bay. Levis was straight ahead, or when caught, MMA fighting tacklers in the backfield.
I wonder if the sporadic accuracy issues are still some rust?!?
In any event, to compare Leary to the past 25 years of QB’s at UK, Hartline is a close comparison in style and effect.
Leary may improve his accuracy going forward, a good point on Hartline but to date I think Hartline was a bit better, Leary has more talent around him than did Hartline most of the time.
Quit whining about people crying about people bitching
Pass blocking is universes better in 2023 vs 2022. Anyone who says it is the same quality I can only conclude they didn't watch UK last year.
I would love to be wrong about him, in a positive way of course. I have been before.
I am not so sure it's better, we have dropped the quite a few out of conference games. The wins have come against some of the ACC's worst. LSU, considered one of our best, lost by double digits, so has Bama and ATM. UGA isn't as good, don't think UT is either. Really hard to tell if the conference has improved or if the top teams regressed back to the pack. I can see a 4 team playoff without the SEC this year.
Grumpy.....that is an incredulous statement.
What 4 teams would make up the playoff that are not SEC teams?
USC
Big 10 winner
Florida St
Texas
Ala and UGA have come back to the pack a bit for sure. I think there are about 7 or 8 other team that you can say on any given Saturday could beat anyone else in the conference.
I think the 4 team playoff is not the best measuring stick to define a successful season. We saw last season how flawed it can be. TCU didn't belong, there were any number of teams that were better. When we get to a 12 team playoff I agree that the playoffs will be a more valid measure of a season's work.
UK #1 in explosive plays over 50 yds in country
Gaytors last in country in giving up plays over 50 yds in country
How’s that for a stat
Gaytors last in country in giving up plays over 50 yds in country
How’s that for a stat
I also say to “7-8 win ceiling” talk that things always change in CFB. Programs rise and fall regularly.
Clemson stunk before Dabo. Bama was average or bad for most of 20 years before Saban. Georgia average most of 30 years before Kirby. USC stunk since Pete Carroll. Michigan before Harbaugh. Stanford animce Harbaugh. Carolina since Spurrier. Florida if not Spurrier or Urban. Miami? Texas? Oregon??
And on and on.
With the portal and good NIL support things can change more overnight than ever. Just need a good HC who gets most his hires right and UK has one.
Some Kentucky football fans suffer from the “soft bigotry of low expectations”
No doubt that the pass protection is miles better, my big concern is moving the ball on the ground and keeping us out of 2nd/3rd and long. Also being able to consistently squeeze out those 3rd and 2 or 3rd and goal would be great. Based on Stoops comments following the Vandy game I’m betting we change or partially change our blocking scheme soon or even this Saturday. Yeah, we’ve broken some big runs but still have issues consistently moving the ball on the ground and that’s crucial as we move into the meat of the schedule.
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Stats show our QB is not getting sacked nearly as often as in 2022. So far Leary has been sacked 4 times. In 2022 our QBs were sacked 46 times.
This year we are averaging 396.5 yards of total offense and 131.5 yards of rushing offense per game. Those numbers might come down as we move through the SEC schedule, but not necessarily because SCar and MS St have the two worst defenses in the conference and MO is also in the bottom half. In 2022 we averaged 324.7 total yards and 116.2 rushing yards per game. Sure looks like 2023 is an improvement. Consistency is a different question but no football team is completely consistent.
-stop confusing the issue with objective facts, Rembrandt.
^seriously though, I think zone blocking is harder for fans to understand than the road grader stuff we did for years...it doesn't *look* as dominant/violent so folks think it's not as "good".
^seriously though, I think zone blocking is harder for fans to understand than the road grader stuff we did for years...it doesn't *look* as dominant/violent so folks think it's not as "good".
I think that is a very real possibility, or maybe Pac12 winner, if there are 4 undefeated conference championship and SEC champ has a loss, i can see us getting left out. Not only see it but think that's how it falls.
I guess it is a scenario.....I think there would be utter mutiny if SEC gets shut out given the utter dominance of the BCS for literally every year since it's inception (including the years when Clemson or Ohio St won it.....th eSEC still was dominate in semifinal rounds).
“Big Blue Wall — The Kentucky offensive line has allowed only four sacks, tied with Georgia for the fewest in the SEC. The Wildcats have been tackled for loss 16 times, tied for fourth in the SEC.”
Impressive Kentucky Football Stats Through Four Games
Kentucky has the best run defense in the SEC. It's just one of the many impressive stats about the Wildcats through four weeks.
Leary not holding the ball as long as Levis is a contributing factor“Big Blue Wall — The Kentucky offensive line has allowed only four sacks, tied with Georgia for the fewest in the SEC. The Wildcats have been tackled for loss 16 times, tied for fourth in the SEC.”
Impressive Kentucky Football Stats Through Four Games
Kentucky has the best run defense in the SEC. It's just one of the many impressive stats about the Wildcats through four weeks.www.on3.com
Your list.
Alabama
Georgia
USC
Michigan
Florida
Miami
Texas
All historically prominent football schools.
Stanford and Carolina not so much. And Spurrier went there on the back end of his career after failing in the NFL.
The point is, who can KENTUCKY attract as a head coach that can take us to the NEXT level?
Stoops has his faults like any other coach in college football. He has also had more sustained success at UK than ANY coach since Bryant was here. We don't have a string of 2, 3 or 4 win seasons that fans endured for years.
Sure we all want 9 or 10 win seasons and a shot at winning the SEC title so do all the other SEC teams.
We are at the point of competing every time we line up to play, something we haven't been able to do more than a few of the past 60+ years. How many of you remember 77' and 78' and some of the Rich Brooks years
NIL and the portal have changed the game for sure and I submit that Stoops is in the top 10% of coaches who have best managed successful use of the portal.
Sure we all want 9 or 10 win seasons and a shot at winning the SEC title so do all the other SEC teams.
We are at the point of competing every time we line up to play, something we haven't been able to do more than a few of the past 60+ years. How many of you remember 77' and 78' and some of the Rich Brooks years
NIL and the portal have changed the game for sure and I submit that Stoops is in the top 10% of coaches who have best managed successful use of the portal.
Mark Stoops is the coach to take us to the next level. If the conversation starts w/ "we can do better than Stoops" then to be honest with you, we aren't going to agree on much.
Historical prominence doesn't mean anything more than being historic at times. Others: Army, Iowa, and Notre Dame. Did you know the program with the most CFB titles is...Yale? Point being, these things change, and they also did that before portal and NIL, so early adopters of both of those two new paradigm changing changes could be the next Big Dogs.
Today's blue bloods can just as easily fade into memory as the others before them.
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