Simmons , Newman , Zimmerman

[W2R]

none will be in the NCAA tourney unless something crazy happens. This will help Kentucky and other blue blood programs in recruiting.

You can just expect to go anywhere and expect success. All three will be watching the post season at home.

 

[true blue1]

Simmons understandable, going to LSU, family tie on the staff. Newman and Zimmerman, bad career decisions for both.

 

[wild mandu]

Zimmerman made the worst choice, he could have really helped this team. Instead, UNLV sucks, his coach gets fired and he gets injured.

 

[Hoskins91]

If they care at all.

 

[.S&C.]

no no you see, schools don't matter at all.....

signed,
those people.

Basketball schools and top names care about he product. Because they care, they succeed at a higher level.

 

[TexKat]

Those coaches should've read Cals books!

 

[Hoskins91]

I'd say the main lesson is outside of Simmons, those guys weren't that good to begin with. This class turned out to suck.

 

[ZZBlueComet]

Zimmerman made the worst choice, he could have really helped this team. Instead, UNLV sucks, his coach gets fired and he gets injured.

He stayed home and got immediate PT to boot - it happens.

 

[uky8unc5]

He stayed home and got immediate PT to boot - it happens.

And many times (sad to say), these kids discover they were misled and pressured into a bad college and career decision.

 

[bigbluelou]

I know we can't get them all, nor should we. But you have to shake your head at some decisions. Not necessarily these but some.

 

[JohnnyGentle]

zimmerman is a lot better than skal it turned out

 

[brianpoe]

Simmons understandable, going to LSU, family tie on the staff. Newman and Zimmerman, bad career decisions for both.

Yes Simmons' Godfather is there, but Newman and Zimmerman stayed home to play.

I dont disagree that they were bad career decisions, Simmons was #1 regardless.

After witnessing all of the vitriol on the football board over good players leaving the state to play at powerhouses, I'm not going to disparage a kid for staying home.

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite]

Brown at cal is skating in perhaps? Not that you would know anything about his season....

 

[Icecoldbrewdoggy]

Simmons should be ashamed of himself, but I'm sure he's not. He could care less about Johnny Jones. I hate Jones and LSU, though, so it works for me !

 

[Supafuzz75]

Newman costed himself a few millions by going where he did.. He's projected mid 2nd round and I've saw a couple with him not even listed.. Zimmerman I've seen anywhere from #11 to the main end of the first round.. Could have been top 10 probably had he came here.. Plus neither will make the ncaa tournament.. I don't feel not nerry ounce of pity for them either..

 

[brianpoe]

Brown at cal is skating in perhaps? Not that you would know anything about his season....

A player projected to be a high pick should definitely take into account branding.

How many fans will buy Tyler & Murray gear over Brown's before their first NBA season, even if Brown is chosen higher?

A fanbase like UK or Ohio State could be a huge impact in the "other earnings" column.

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite]

Yeah brown thought being all different and going to cal because as in his words " was about more than basketball " was the best thing

 

[ganner918]

Glad Newman went elsewhere. We got Murray, who is better. Zimmerman would have been the piece we needed to be top-5 all year.

 

[Bkocats]

If they care at all.

there is that

 

[TexKat]

Yeah brown thought being all different and going to cal because as in his words " was about more than basketball " was the best thing

He likes to surf

 

[JasonS.]

If they care at all.

Oh it probably will bother them for a couple seconds ... until their new agent tosses them the keys to the Maserati on Selection Sunday.

 

[Tyblue22]

That class was overall a down class. But, any of them would have been better had they gone to a big name school with better coaching/player development and practicing daily against better players. That's why Kentucky players are drafted higher, and are having better pro careers. They have to compete, and play against future pros in practice daily, which skyrockets their progress.

 

[Tyblue22]

Cheik Diallo too, Skal, etc. This class was just not that good.
Hell, Carlton Bragg was rated #21 and Diallo was #5 in the nation. Diallo isn't even the 5th best player on his own team, and Bragg is better than him. If you look at the ratings, Jamal Murray and Isaiah Briscoe wer #9 and #10 and they are easily top 5 players now. Murray is in my opinion #2 behind simmons and Briscoe is #4 or #5.

 

[W2R]

I don't care they didn't chose uk especially Newman. But it will make a top recruit think twice about " being the man" at a underachieving school

 

[Dablueman]

Both Brown and Ivan Rabb at Cal are projected lottery in mock drafts seen Brown has high as 6. woukd have loved to had Rabb averaging a double double

 

[IL Wildcat]

I think these guys are just further examples of why this class just wasn't as good as many others we've seen over the years. Seriously, top to bottom, this class just wasn't great. I think we're fortunate to have picked up one of the best in the class, Murray, a guy who had to reclassify to join the class. There just aren't many elite guys in this group. Zimmerman is decent. Newman is pretty good but not like many expected. Ben Simmons is really the only sure thing in the class.

But it's true that the failures of these players to make the NCAAT is a boost for UK recruiting. I know being the center of attention and being THE MAN is important to many of these guys, but if winning and good coaching means anything, you gotta be wise about this thing. Who has consistently done the job in this scenario? Calipari is your man and UK is your stage.

 

[Tyblue22]

That class is much like the2012 class. Bad overall class, guys ranked incorrectly.
Willey Cauley Stein was #41, Montrez Harrell was #82.

Class also had Nerlens #2, Alex #8, and a bunch of guys you never heard of in the top 20 ranked ahead

 

[W2R]

I think these guys are just further examples of why this class just wasn't as good as many others we've seen over the years. Seriously, top to bottom, this class just wasn't great. I think we're fortunate to have picked up one of the best in the class, Murray, a guy who had to reclassify to join the class. There just aren't many elite guys in this group. Zimmerman is decent. Newman is pretty good but not like many expected. Ben Simmons is really the only sure thing in the class.

But it's true that the failures of these players to make the NCAAT is a boost for UK recruiting. I know being the center of attention and being THE MAN is important to many of these guys, but if winning and good coaching means anything, you gotta be wise about this thing. Who has consistently done the job in this scenario? Calipari is your man and UK is your stage.

Kentucky effect. That's the main thing from the Calipari era I will remember. The next coach needs to embrace this in some shape form or fashion. The head coach of UK is held to a higher standard and so is he players. Look at Skal dome don't live up to expectations but at the end of the day you compete with the best of the best.

 

[TexKat]

I think these guys are just further examples of why this class just wasn't as good as many others we've seen over the years. Seriously, top to bottom, this class just wasn't great. I think we're fortunate to have picked up one of the best in the class, Murray, a guy who had to reclassify to join the class. There just aren't many elite guys in this group. Zimmerman is decent. Newman is pretty good but not like many expected. Ben Simmons is really the only sure thing in the class.

But it's true that the failures of these players to make the NCAAT is a boost for UK recruiting. I know being the center of attention and being THE MAN is important to many of these guys, but if winning and good coaching means anything, you gotta be wise about this thing. Who has consistently done the job in this scenario? Calipari is your man and UK is your stage.

Even Andrew Harrison admits UK was the way to go. He's still fighting!
http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2016/2/24/11102140/andrew-harrison-continues-to-improve-in-iowa

 

[Old_Red]

Even Andrew Harrison admits UK was the way to go. He's still fighting!
http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2016/2/24/11102140/andrew-harrison-continues-to-improve-in-iowa

"was apart of" "went rampant" "made progression" "played alongside"
Are you kidding me? Are there no competent proofreaders "anymore"?

 

[BBUK]

"was apart of" "went rampant" "made progression" "played alongside"
Are you kidding me? Are there no competent proofreaders "anymore"?

Brother, brother, brother, you do not understand. This was written for the projected readers at uncheat among others. I heard Rick has a couple one and done's too, they needed to be able to comprehend..

It's this reason or the writer graduated from uncheat...

 

[Bkocats]

I'm sure the negative recruiting coaches will look at Skal and even Poythress as black eyes on us. All the while refusing to acknowledge the overall success most of the higher ranked players have had at Kentucky
This class has definitely been a pretty bad one, comparatively - but only in the OAD model. A good number of these guys have some good talent, but it needs longer to develop

 

[qwesley]

Just a weird, non-competitive, weak class. No other way to explain it. Just glad we got one of the few outliers in Murray.

 

[BBUK]

I'm sure the negative recruiting coaches will look at Skal and even Poythress as black eyes on us. All the while refusing to acknowledge the overall success most of the higher ranked players have had at Kentucky
This class has definitely been a pretty bad one, comparatively - but only in the OAD model. A good number of these guys have some good talent, but it needs longer to develop

Let's wait and see where Poy and Skal end up in the draft before bailing on them.. Who knows, stranger things have happened...The draft is wacky most of the time. One thing; Cal's recruits seem to go higher on average.... we shall see.

 

[jrm693]

I would imagine that these kids are told hey you are going in the first round anywhere you go so why not be on the court playing your one year of college ball instead of sitting on the bench half the time at Ky, add to that as brianpoe said above you are playing for your home state school and have the opportunity to be a big fish in a little pond vs a little fish in a big pond not having to compete for a starting job.

 

[jrpross]

I'm glad they've all had ass years. F em. You make a stupid decision, you deserve the results that come with it.

And now Cal can use them as examples to future recruits.

 

[poppycat]

zimmerman is a lot better than skal it turned out

But in the end won't be better than Humphries......

 

[Mike-D]

A player projected to be a high pick should definitely take into account branding.

How many fans will buy Tyler Murray gear over Brown's before their first NBA season, even if Brown is chosen higher?

A fanbase like UK or Ohio State could be a huge impact in the "other earnings" column.

I think you meant Jamal Ulis.

 

[JonathanW]

none will be in the NCAA tourney unless something crazy happens. This will help Kentucky and other blue blood programs in recruiting.

You can just expect to go anywhere and expect success. All three will be watching the post season at home.

Those 3 did not make their school choice based on the likelihood of making the NCAA-T!
That would have been a nice bonus for them, but it wasn't the primary reason for their choice.
Assuming there was no improper benefits exchanging hands, 2 of them made their choice primarily to be "the-man" at his school and be able to "get his" (points). The 3rd was a momma's boy that didn't want to leave home.

And if a player is the type that wants to "get his" first, then I don't want him at UK! I want team first players.

 

[brianpoe]

I think you meant Jamal Ulis.

LOL

Left out the "&"