SIAP: Marcus Lee, Emerging Star?

[MdWIldcat55]

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...-forward-potential-breakout-stars-in-2015-16/

Didn't see this here. I hope they are right. If Marcus was a stock, I'd be a 'buy.'

 

[OmahaCat12]

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...-forward-potential-breakout-stars-in-2015-16/

Didn't see this here. I hope they are right. If Marcus was a stock, I'd be a 'buy.'

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see it. Again, I've been wrong in the past but I just see him as a solid role player.

 

[Orville Boggs]

Fingers crossed!!

 

[Kerry Kat]

Cal not playing Lee and Booker more against Wisconsin was an absolute surprise to me. Anyway, Lee can jump out of the gym and play above the rim if need be

 

[Poetax]

Cal not playing Lee and Booker more against Wisconsin was an absolute surprise to me. Anyway, Lee can jump out of the gym and play above the rim if need be

Actually I thought Lee's inability to switch back on his man allowed mismatches with Booker under the basket with a 6'10" center. Willie did the same thing. That plus his inability to hit free throws will always keep him on the bench at crunch time.

 

[caneintally]

I think LEE will look like Diallo did in the ALL Star games. What i mean by that is he will be running up and down playing 110% . Blocking shots, making dunks , 2 foot hooks ect . He is an isane talent as he showed againsT Michigan . I think he will be a 8 pt 7 reb 2 blocks a game type guy. I do think he will go off a few times and score 20 and grab 10 . But Skal and Poy will be the best 1-2 combo inside in college bball next year.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Cal not playing Lee and Booker more against Wisconsin was an absolute surprise to me. Anyway, Lee can jump out of the gym and play above the rim if need be

Agree with Lee. Booker was a huge defensive liability and was targeted and taken advantage of what seemed like the whole game.

 

[Stonewall12]

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see it. Again, I've been wrong in the past but I just see him as a solid role player.

I agree. Lee can not score period even less than Poythress. Grab rebounds and lobs... Play defense block shots. I just hope his FT shooting improves so he will not be a problem being in at the end of games.

 

[Stonewall12]

Agree with Lee. Booker was a huge defensive liability and was targeted and taken advantage of what seemed like the whole game.

Who's fault was that? Booker played excellent defense on Dekker. He just played better offense. Also helps he was 5inches taller.

 

[kyisinmyblood]

Who's fault was that? Booker played excellent defense on Dekker. He just played better offense. Also helps he was 5inches taller.

excellent defense means the opponent doesn't score.

 

[Stonewall12]

excellent defense means the opponent doesn't score.

You can play good defense and the offensive player still score. Come on now...
You ever hear jay bills or any basketball color guy ever say... That was great defense, just better offense.

Or you ever watch a guy named Jordan play the game?

 

[catrecruit]

If Marcus could develop a reliable 12-15 foot jumper during the off-season we'd have a winner

 

[BlueRunner11]

Who's fault was that? Booker played excellent defense on Dekker. He just played better offense. Also helps he was 5inches taller.

Not sure what you mean by excellent defense? I didn't see that, but regardless of who did what, Booker was made the whipping boy by Wisky consistently creating that mismatch with him which made him a huge liability that game to have out there. Especially if he's not giving you anything on the offensive side of the ball which he wasn't and wouldn't because you couldn't keep him on the floor for because of his defense. It was a great plan by Ryan to take him out like that and it makes me sick to my stomach to even type that. Now if you want to find fault, blame the coaching staff for not seeing this coming and letting it go on way too long.

 

[Stonewall12]

Uh I was implying cal was to blame.

 

[kyisinmyblood]

You can play good defense and the offensive player still score. Come on now...
You ever hear jay bills or any basketball color guy ever say... That was great defense, just better offense.

Or you ever watch a guy named Jordan play the game?

I don't put much value in what analysts say, though Jay is one of my favorites. Yes I have heard that better offense wins against better defense and I agree with that statement. Especially in basketball.

I was disagreeing with the statement that Booker played excellent defense. IMO he didn't play good or excellent defense. He was exposed. I like DBs game, but he didn't play very well that night, offensively or defensively.

I guess you could say that wasn't DBs fault because Bo Ryan knew how to get Kaminsky and Dekker matched up with DB when they clearly would have an advantage. Have to tip your hat to Bo for that, as bad as I hate to say it

 

[Stonewall12]

Booker played as good of defense that he could. And did a good job. Dekker is just a better offensive player. We had one person to guard Dekker and he tore his acl.

 

[kyisinmyblood]

Booker played as good of defense that he could. And did a good job. Dekker is just a better offensive player. We had one person to guard Dekker and he tore his acl.

completely agree with that

 

[Rhavicc]

You can play good defense and the offensive player still score. Come on now...
You ever hear jay bills or any basketball color guy ever say... That was great defense, just better offense.

Or you ever watch a guy named Jordan play the game?

If we made Sam Dekker look like Jordan, we did not defend well. Look, Booker is a terrific player, and a good kid, but he got abused. Just physically too weak, and not athletic enough to keep Dekker in check.

Booker played as good of defense that he could. And did a good job. Dekker is just a better offensive player. We had one person to guard Dekker and he tore his acl.

I've said this 100 times or more, and I stand by it. With Poythress, we win that game.

I agree. Lee can not score period even less than Poythress. Grab rebounds and lobs... Play defense block shots. I just hope his FT shooting improves so he will not be a problem being in at the end of games.

Some of the most important plays in basketball. Plays like that send us to the final four in 2014, and send us to the national title game in 2014. Energy is a huge thing in basketball, and there are very few ways to better produce energy for our team, and our fans, than putbacks, alley oops, lockdown defense, and blocked shots.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Hmm are you guys saying that we should have adjusted and played a 2/3 zone against Wisconsin?

 

[Stonewall12]

If we made Sam Dekker look like Jordan, we did not defend well. Look, Booker is a terrific player, and a good kid, but he got abused. Just physically too weak, and not athletic enough to keep Dekker in check.




I've said this 100 times or more, and I stand by it. With Poythress, we win that game.




Some of the most important plays in basketball. Plays like that send us to the final four in 2014, and send us to the national title game in 2014. Energy is a huge thing in basketball, and there are very few ways to better produce energy for our team, and our fans, than putbacks, alley oops, lockdown defense, and blocked shots.

I am not saying we turned Dekker into Jordan. I am saying a lot of people played really tough defense on Jordan and it did not matter. Cal should of adjusted and never put booker in that position. Booker DID play good defense on Dekker, it looked worse when one play he got called for a bogus foul and Dekker got a and1. It was not like he was sheray Thomas out there and his feet in cement. I actually think lee could of guarded him good but he never got the chance.

 

[Rhavicc]

I am not saying we turned Dekker into Jordan. I am saying a lot of people played really tough defense on Jordan and it did not matter. Cal should of adjusted and never put booker in that position. Booker DID play good defense on Dekker, it looked worse when one play he got called for a bogus foul and Dekker got a and1. It was not like he was sheray Thomas out there and his feet in cement. I actually think lee could of guarded him good but he never got the chance.

Unless Dekker is the best player in the world (hint: he's not), this is not relevant by any means. Jordan's offensive arsenal was so diverse, and he was so athletic that he was able to get an advantage over anybody.
Dekker will never be half the player Jordan was.
There were a lot of poor attempts to defend the 3 point line against him, and there were a lot of poor attempts to cut him off while he was driving the ball into the lane. That's on him, especially considering the one player that we know would have shut Dekker down was out with a torn ACL. Booker had to step up in that situation, and he couldn't get his part done.

 

[Stonewall12]

Unless Dekker is the best player in the world (hint: he's not), this is not relevant by any means. Jordan's offensive arsenal was so diverse, and he was so athletic that he was able to get an advantage over anybody.
Dekker will never be half the player Jordan was.
There were a lot of poor attempts to defend the 3 point line against him, and there were a lot of poor attempts to cut him off while he was driving the ball into the lane. That's on him, especially considering the one player that we know would have shut Dekker down was out with a torn ACL. Booker had to step up in that situation, and he couldn't get his part done.

Unless Dekker is the best player in the world (hint: he's not), this is not relevant by any means. Jordan's offensive arsenal was so diverse, and he was so athletic that he was able to get an advantage over anybody.
Dekker will never be half the player Jordan was.
There were a lot of poor attempts to defend the 3 point line against him, and there were a lot of poor attempts to cut him off while he was driving the ball into the lane. That's on him, especially considering the one player that we know would have shut Dekker down was out with a torn ACL. Booker had to step up in that situation, and he couldn't get his part done.

Booker did step up and played Dekker really well. Dekker was just better. It was not on him. It was on the coach. Should of done something different. Try to pin this on booker is bull. Dekker shot his wad in the game vs us. He did not do near as good in the duke game. With Alex being out cal should of had a game plan to play Dekker. He didn't.. Booker was not the answer but he played him better than anyone else on the team could of imo.

 

[wcc31]

I've always been a big Lee guy. Seems to me that whenever he's been given an opportunity, he's done a great job for us. People act like rim running/finishing oops/putback dunks aren't true skills, but they are. I think there's a good chance Cal goes DDMO this year and Lee is the perfect big on the back end. Plus, I think his basketball IQ is a little higher than he's given credit. I think he's a decent passer.

What he needs to do:

- Work on his body a bit. He'll never be a huge guy, but he needs to get stronger.

- Take pride in his D. With his length, quickness and energy, he has the chance to be a poor man's WCS, in that he can guard multiple positions.

- Improve his ball skills and shot.

 

[coolcat9lives]

Just like what another poster said about WIllis, minutes will be the remedy for Marcus Lee. When he's played extended minutes I've liked what I saw for the most part. If Marcus is providing energy I think you can overlook some of his deficiencies (e.g free throws, lack of offensive moves). The potentially starting bigs, Skal and Marcus, have a similar dynamic as WIllie and Karl. One low post scorer and one defensive minded player with limited offense. I may even give Skal and Marcus the edge because you don't have to worry about Marcus "chasing butterflies".