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Shane Battier

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He's on a podcast talking about his recruitment in high school. It got so crazy he narrowed his school list to six, which included UK. He told each coach they had a 15-minute window at night in which to talk to him. UK was the first school eliminated. Why?

Pitino called him from a Yankees game outside of his allotted time. He was sitting in the Steinbrenner box. Battier says "oh wow, that sounds so cool. Go Yankees!"

Gets off the phone and tells his mom to take UK off the list. If Pitino didn't respect his rules in recruiting, he wouldn't respect him as a player.

It's so funny hearing the little things that steer kids in their decision making.

As for us, we got our revenge in St. Petersburg in 1998.
 
Too bad. I actually kinda like Battier. One of the best post game interviews of all time. “That’s great”
Pitino could have donated a kidney to Battier and there's still no way he was coming to UK. The NBA rumors were constantly swirling and our rivals were using it against UK at the end of Pitino's tenure here. Cost us Avery, Battier, and Brand.
 
He's on a podcast talking about his recruitment in high school. It got so crazy he narrowed his school list to six, which included UK. He told each coach they had a 15-minute window at night in which to talk to him. UK was the first school eliminated. Why?

Pitino called him from a Yankees game outside of his allotted time. He was sitting in the Steinbrenner box. Battier says "oh wow, that sounds so cool. Go Yankees!"

Gets off the phone and tells his mom to take UK off the list. If Pitino didn't respect his rules in recruiting, he wouldn't respect him as a player.

It's so funny hearing the little things that steer kids in their decision making.

As for us, we got our revenge in St. Petersburg in 1998.
I can't imagine being that arrogant as a high schooler. Good freaking grief.
 
I can’t imagine being taller than 5’6” in high school so count me out on that one lol
I mean, call me naive or whatever, I would've been thrilled to talk to K or Pitino or Boehiem at almost ANY time of day if they wanted me to play for them. Battier always did strike me as a smug prick and this just confirms it. I don't mind people having amazing talent. I mind when they have amazing talent, act like they just walked on water to get there, and treat people as beneath them. Screw that garbage.

Duke was the perfect home for that jerk.
 
I mean, call me naive or whatever, I would've been thrilled to talk to K or Pitino at almost ANY time of day if they wanted me to play for them. Battier always did strike me as a smug prick and this just confirms it. I don't mind people having amazing talent. I mind when they have amazing talent, act like they just walked on water to get their, and treat people as beneath them. Screw that garbage. Duke was the perfect home for that jerk.
Oh I certainly don’t disagree. Most dukies are pretentious. The school attracts them like flies. Jay Williams may take the cake over Battier in that regard
 
Oh I certainly don’t disagree. Most duckies are pretentious. The school attracts them like flies. Jay Williams may take the cake over Battier in that regard

Like, be a little humble. It's why I can't stand Mahomes, Brady, or LeBron. Yes they are great. Undeniably so. But they whine and cry to refs or act like they can't be touched (both metaphorically and physically). I just can't stand prima donnas that know they are prima donnas and yet act that way.
 
Like, be a little humble. It's why I can't stand Mahomes, Brady, or LeBron. Yes they are great. Undeniably so. But they whine and cry to refs or act like they can't be touched (both metaphorically and physically). I just can't stand prima donnas that know they are prima donnas and yet act that way.
If you call yourself the goat, you ain’t the goat. I love listening to legends like Bird and MJ and how much they respect the guys who paved the way for them. Completely agree
 
He's on a podcast talking about his recruitment in high school. It got so crazy he narrowed his school list to six, which included UK. He told each coach they had a 15-minute window at night in which to talk to him. UK was the first school eliminated. Why?

Pitino called him from a Yankees game outside of his allotted time. He was sitting in the Steinbrenner box. Battier says "oh wow, that sounds so cool. Go Yankees!"

Gets off the phone and tells his mom to take UK off the list. If Pitino didn't respect his rules in recruiting, he wouldn't respect him as a player.

It's so funny hearing the little things that steer kids in their decision making.

As for us, we got our revenge in St. Petersburg in 1998.

Did his mom cut his peanut butter sandwich for him too?
 
No one in college basketball has used cutting down other teams like “Coach K” in recruiting.When a recruit talks about his wholesome and fatherly persona I wanna puke.Why because it’s B.S.Say what you want but Cal was taking duke recruiting to the wood chipper before K went really dirty(bill self also) So I don’t want to hear wholesome and honest with any programs ever again those days are over.K was dirty and neither of us did good by it.Split recruits and UConn and balanced teams reaped.
 
I mean, call me naive or whatever, I would've been thrilled to talk to K or Pitino or Boehiem at almost ANY time of day if they wanted me to play for them. Battier always did strike me as a smug prick and this just confirms it. I don't mind people having amazing talent. I mind when they have amazing talent, act like they just walked on water to get there, and treat people as beneath them. Screw that garbage.

Duke was the perfect home for that jerk.
Battier is definitely not a prick. Just think about if you were a HS superstar and every coach in the country was calling, it would get old in a hurry. He set the boundary and Pitno did not respect his request. I love UK but i would have done the same thing Battier did.I think it showed his maturity and seriousness. Pitno was the one in this situation who crossed the line. This certainly does not justify calling him a prick. UK is not for every kid and every kid is not right for UK. We can't get every great player and when we don't we should not show our immaturity by bashing kids. If the Wilson kids chooses UNC, Duke, or Auburn, I'm sure our fans will call him a prick as well.
 
Battier is definitely not a prick. Just think about if you were a HS superstar and every coach in the country was calling, it would get old in a hurry. He set the boundary and Pitno did not respect his request. I love UK but i would have done the same thing Battier did.I think it showed his maturity and seriousness. Pitno was the one in this situation who crossed the line. This certainly does not justify calling him a prick. UK is not for every kid and every kid is not right for UK. We can't get every great player and when we don't we should not show our immaturity by bashing kids. If the Wilson kids chooses UNC, Duke, or Auburn, I'm sure our fans will call him a prick as well.

I can understand it gets old. However, it's not like that was Bob Johns from Podunk U calling. It was RIck Pitino (who was decently known before he came here as well). And crossing someone of the list after one perceived grievance against some arbitrary rule is pretty arrogant in my book. I don't care we didn't land him. We did just fine without him.

Bashing a kid? Good grief, remove the stick. He's 46! He's older than I am!
 
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Actually, good for him. I can see him saying that too. If you really want a player, it's not a outlandish request. When you're chosing from a bunch of good programs, you gotta cut some somehow.

I can understand that. Seems a bit petty in my book. What next? "Man, Coach Pope wore an ugly ass tie in my house. Guess I'm going to UNC."
 
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Battier is definitely not a prick. Just think about if you were a HS superstar and every coach in the country was calling, it would get old in a hurry. He set the boundary and Pitno did not respect his request. I love UK but i would have done the same thing Battier did.I think it showed his maturity and seriousness. Pitno was the one in this situation who crossed the line. This certainly does not justify calling him a prick. UK is not for every kid and every kid is not right for UK. We can't get every great player and when we don't we should not show our immaturity by bashing kids. If the Wilson kids chooses UNC, Duke, or Auburn, I'm sure our fans will call him a prick as well.
Nope. I’ll just call you a prick.
 
Actually, good for him. I can see him saying that too. If you really want a player, it's not an outlandish request. When you're chosing from a bunch of good programs, you gotta cut some somehow.
That’s how I see it too. You’re being bimbarxes with phone calls daily and I could imagine it gets overwhelming and tiresome.

Assuming it was clearly delivered to all final pursuers that he wouldn’t be taking calls outside of the established window and tk respect his wishes:…. Then I personally don’t see the issue with setting boundaries and expecting suites to respect them. Especially when your data points to use to separate coaches are so few and far between. If all things are even between 2 coaches and one respected your wishes in the recruiting process and the other didn’t…I see how it could matter.

Now if he just said “this is the only time I’m free each day” then that’s dumb bc it doesn’t come off like a request or demand and could be seen as a “maybe he’s free, let’s see if he answers”
 
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That’s how I see it too. You’re being bimbarxes with phone calls daily and I could imagine it gets overwhelming and tiresome.

Assuming it was clearly delivered to all final pursuers that he wouldn’t be taking calls outside of the established window and tk respect his wishes:…. Then I personally don’t see the issue with setting boundaries and expecting suites to respect them. Especially when your data points to use to separate coaches are so few and far between. If all things are even between 2 coaches and one respected your wishes in the recruiting process and the other didn’t…I see how it could matter.

Now if he just said “this is the only time I’m free each day” then that’s dumb bc it doesn’t come off like a request or demand and could be seen as a “maybe he’s free, let’s see if he answers”
Again, I can understand that too. It just seems a really arbitrary way to distinguish where I went to develop. Because we all know K is such a nice and understanding guy right? I'm sure the way he dog cussed refs and berated other Duke students (including a student reporter who just asked a simple question) is indicative of his overall benevolent nature right? Right?! Regardless, I guess I'm just not as blunt. If Pitino did that a couple of times, sure, cut him. Once and off the list is just extremely elevated in my opinion. Especially at that age in my book. Worse is the false face pleasantries "Go Yankees!"; like he couldn't care lees. I would've been frank with him though. "Hey Coach, I appreciate you calling, but remember I said I couldn't take a call at this time normally? No problem. I just ask that it doesn't happen again." THAT is maturity in my book.

I could never be a college coach and/or NBA coach and deal with that kind of ego. Especially of someone 20-25 years my junior. That just doesn't fly in my daily life.

Some may read that of a defense of Pitino. Let me be frank. I think Pitino was an arrogant jerk too. I met the man. He was cordial don't get me wrong but there was defiantly an aire of "I'm better than this fan base." He may have gotten rid of some of that now; I hope he has.
 
…Pitino called him from a Yankees game outside of his allotted time. He was sitting in the Steinbrenner box. Battier says "oh wow, that sounds so cool. Go Yankees!"

Gets off the phone and tells his mom to take UK off the list. If Pitino didn't respect his rules in recruiting, he wouldn't respect him as a player….
I wonder if Pitino thought Battier would be so impressed by him sitting in the Steinbrenner box, that he disregarded the time? Was Battier a Yankees fan?
 
Meh. I’m a popular high school dude, I have a pretty full schedule with school, practice, recruiting, homework, family and friends. My phone is blowing up close to 24/7, and I want to organize the chaos while trying to carve out some me-time. K is a raging narcissist and I still don’t believe Battier deserved NPOY, but good for him for having the maturity to establish and stick to boundaries as a high schooler.
 
I've lived in the Daytona Beach area off and on since the early 90s. Supposedly the Pitino described by Battier must have been the Pitino who recruited Vince Carter. Vince's mom supposedly was extremely put off by Pitino's attitude and loved Dean Smith.

Bottom line is you never know what's going to sway a 17-year old kid or his parents. Remember the story where Cal showed Randle his ring and Roy responded with multiple rings?
 
Some of you are too young to know that this recruitment was a lock for Duke whether Pitino abided by the "Battier Rules" or not. Could've been a confessional and called him for complete silence and it wouldn't have mattered.

What makes me laugh is the retro recruitment "reasoning" some of these guys who have been/are out of the spotlight bring up to act like their selection would've been different. There are cases of a program completely screwing up a recruitment--I can and will give you a few Georgetown stories to prove there are actual stories that make sense as to why a recruitment/program's future would go down the toilet but Kentucky/Rick Pitino isn't it no matter how much crap Battier is spewing here. He was a Dookie from jump.

Now for some F'd up recruitments, I present to you:

1. Georgetown and Kenny Anderson--Anderson was a lock to Georgetown but John Thompson was in his feelings after the '88 Olympics and then '89 failure to get to Final Four/National Championship with his last great team ('89 team was a team that should've won it all) and refused to go make any in-home visits or recruit Anderson personally. "I'm not kissing the ass of any Hamburger All American"

2. Georgetown and Grant Hill. Hill grew up a Hoyas fan and attended same school of the Ewing Era PG and creator of Inside the NBA on TNT Michael Jackson. On the visit to Georgetown, Thompson had the academic advisor Mary Fenlon pull out a book and ask Hill to read some passages as some sort of "test"--Hoyas fans call it the infamous "Green Egg's and Ham" and low and behold Hill chooses Duke and course of history for Northeastern Basketball and balance of power officially shifts from Georgetown to Duke--imagine Anderson/Hill with Alonzo Mourning? That team may have had enough talent for Big John.

3. Stromile Swift--not in the same caliber as the two mentioned above-but he was seen as a sure thing for Georgetown in recruiting and takes his OV. Swift a native of Louisiana was hosted by Jahidi White and the visit couldn't have gone worse. Instead of taking him out on town in DC or over to Howard University to see coeds--he stays in apartment and they play video games and order in cheesesteaks. Needless to say that's all LSU needed to crack the door, jump through and end that recruitment.

Other guys who Thompson dropped the ball are just a who's who of CBB elite of '80's and 90's---Dennis Scott, Chris Jackson--which at time was seen as fine because they had such a lead for Kenny Anderson and returning vets in backcourt for '89 team--, Rasheed Wallace, Larry Johnson--another whom Thompson didn't bother to call and conceded to UNLV out of JUCO due to the depression of the Summer of '88/'89 Season ending. So the dream of Alonzo Mourning, Kenny Anderson, Larry Johnson, Grant Hill led to the drop into basketball abyss of just being good enough to make Tournaments and not matter.

A side note to Duke's magical class mentioned above BTW--look up the name Myron Piggie regarding Corey Maggette specifically and remember where Duke was prior to Coach K landing Battier, Brand, Avery, Burgess, etc...and what he did to get back to relevancy. Same with Carlos Boozer Sr and Chris Duhon-go watch Blue Chips and pay attention to Butch McCray--and apply that to Boozer Sr and Duhon's Mom.
 
That bullet could have brought another championship to UK. He was NPOY.
Oh I definitely agree he was a great player. It’s just such a bad precedent starting out a coach:student relationship with the student giving the coach a command. Can’t help but gum things up. Obviously K got a title out of it eventually. Maybe it’s different when floor slapping and cross dressing are involved.

But still imo Rick called him outside that window intentionally to give him an opportunity to get over himself and become something much greater (at least sooner than otherwise) than that star child who was getting a rush from ordering bigtime coaches around.
 
So we can add Battier to the "I was a high school diva and Rick Pitino hurt my feelings" recruitment list, along with Ray Allen?

So we can add Battier to the "I was a high school diva and Rick Pitino hurt my feelings" recruitment list, along with Ray Allen?
Or just another example of your buddy Pitino thinking he is above everyone else. For recruits of that level , restrictions have to be made in order for them to have some semblance of a normal life. Not a fan of Duke but Battier and parents handled this the same way that I would have. Battier was not the bad guy in this situation.
 
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Or just another example of your buddy Pitino thinking he is above everyone else. For recruits of that level , restrictions have to be made in order for them to have some semblance of a normal life. Not a fan of Duke but Battier and parents handled this the same way that I would have. Battier was not the bad guy in this situation.
Pitino at that point was definitely “above” a high school basketball player in significance. Kind of agree with others who say the high school player was kind of pretentious in their requests, no?
 
Pitino at that point was definitely “above” a high school basketball player in significance. Kind of agree with others who say the high school player was kind of pretentious in their requests, no?
He had many great offers from great coaches. I don't think he looked at Pitino in the same way that we did at that time. I think a time frame to make calls is a great way to handle communication. jmo
 
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Pitino could have donated a kidney to Battier and there's still no way he was coming to UK. The NBA rumors were constantly swirling and our rivals were using it against UK at the end of Pitino's tenure here. Cost us Avery, Battier, and Brand.
Avery’s mom upgrading her profession from a house cleaner to a management job at Glaxo Pharmaceutical didn’t hurt either, lol.
 
Side 100% with Battier on this. The player holds all the cards in the recruiting process along with the parents. Once the player gets to campus, it’s the coach’s game. As a parent, I want to know the coach is a stand up individual that will hold my son accountable, but also be respectful. If you can’t follow the extremely easy request of calling at a certain time, then I’d lose trust in other areas.

Small, but telling at the same time.
 
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