It;'s a damn shame when an 18 year old kid shows more maturity and humility than a senior basketball official.
SEC will review the technical foul
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How does Kentucky fall out of a top 4 seed because of this loss ? I would like to know this guy's top 16 teams I can count 14 teams that could be put ahead of Kentucky at the most. Are they putting Arizona (RPI 26)and their 2 top 50 wins over Kentucky ? How about Purdue (RPI 25) coming off a loss ? Maybe they are putting Texas (RPI 29) coming off a loss and their 10 total losses.
I guess Utah then ? Still that be 15 teams and I put Duke who we beat ahead of us and that is arguable.
Kansas, Villanova, Oklahoma, Virginia
Xavier, North Carolina, Michigan State, Iowa
Maryland, Oregon, West Virginia, Miami FL
Iowa State, Duke
http://thecomeback.com/blog/ncaa/do...saac-humphries-caused-his-technical-foul.html
Let’s dispense with a preamble and immediately show you what happened in the final seconds of the overtime period between Big Blue and A&M. A bizarre turn of events lifted the Aggies to a 79-77 win which arrests their freefall and simultaneously pushes Kentucky out of a protected (top-4) seed for the upcoming NCAA Tournament.
I guess Utah then ? Still that be 15 teams and I put Duke who we beat ahead of us and that is arguable.
Kansas, Villanova, Oklahoma, Virginia
Xavier, North Carolina, Michigan State, Iowa
Maryland, Oregon, West Virginia, Miami FL
Iowa State, Duke
http://thecomeback.com/blog/ncaa/do...saac-humphries-caused-his-technical-foul.html
Let’s dispense with a preamble and immediately show you what happened in the final seconds of the overtime period between Big Blue and A&M. A bizarre turn of events lifted the Aggies to a 79-77 win which arrests their freefall and simultaneously pushes Kentucky out of a protected (top-4) seed for the upcoming NCAA Tournament.
I guess I found my answer though I don't agree with it
SEED: TEAM (CONFERENCE)
1: Villanova (Big East)
1: Kansas (Big 12)
1: Virginia (ACC)
1: Oklahoma (Big 12)
2: Xavier (Big East)
2: Iowa (Big 10)
2: North Carolina (ACC)
2: Michigan State (Big 10)
3: Miami Florida (ACC)
3: Oregon (Pac-12)
3: West Virginia (Big 12)
3: Maryland (Big 10)
4: Iowa State (Big 12)
4: Purdue (Big 10)
4: Arizona (Pac-12)
4: Duke (ACC)
5: Texas A&M (SEC)
5: Kentucky (SEC)
5: Dayton (A-10)
5: Utah (Pac-12)
SEED: TEAM (CONFERENCE)
1: Villanova (Big East)
1: Kansas (Big 12)
1: Virginia (ACC)
1: Oklahoma (Big 12)
2: Xavier (Big East)
2: Iowa (Big 10)
2: North Carolina (ACC)
2: Michigan State (Big 10)
3: Miami Florida (ACC)
3: Oregon (Pac-12)
3: West Virginia (Big 12)
3: Maryland (Big 10)
4: Iowa State (Big 12)
4: Purdue (Big 10)
4: Arizona (Pac-12)
4: Duke (ACC)
5: Texas A&M (SEC)
5: Kentucky (SEC)
5: Dayton (A-10)
5: Utah (Pac-12)
That seeding is a complete joke but what else is new. On another note did anyone expect the SEC to disagree with Pat Adams. Of course not. This is why they continually get away with mistake after mistake because conferences will not hold them accountable for their actions. Pat Adams will do this again to another team because no action will be taken against him. Pathetic just absolutely pathetic. Hope the SEC is proud of their incompetent officials.
Let me answer that for you. Nothing will happen. The very best is that they say it was the wrong call.That won't change a thing. The game is over.....next up Bama!
Did Pat Adams write that article? Claiming he got the T for bouncing the ball diagonally instead of straight down against the floor, That is the most idiotic excuse I've ever heard.
Of course the SEC will just say what Seth Greenberg asked a few officials last night about the Technical and all came back saying its all up to the Ref that called the 'T'. Thanks to Pat Adams that he couldn't have looked at the throwdown of the ball like Coach Cal said that he wasn't being angry or showing disrepect that he was just happy and celebrating. I have never seen a year for Kentucky especially since we hit the SEC season and Kansas game that we have been called for so many picky touchy fouls by our bigs. Between Lee, Humphries, Skal, and rest of the bigs they are always at 4 fouls in 15-20 minutes of play. I have watched many of the Power Conferences(ACC,Big10, Big12) games and the officials let most of the teams play for 40 minutes. They might have a couple of touchy or picky fouls but not as much when Kentucky plays. Even the other SEC games I have watched last couple of week other than Kentucky have been able to play a good game without all the fouls. WE as fans can't even enjoy a game when we are playing because of all the crazy fouls the refs have called against us and if you look back on Kansas & UT and having 81 total fouls against UK in both games and both teams hit 30FT's that is a killer to any team to overcome in getting the Win! We should have a 13-1 record in the SEC and basically already clinched the SEC and #1 seed in the SEC Tourney and a 23-4 overall record and now in the Top 10 of the rankings.
Here is the actual quote from KSR:
In a statement released to the Courier-Journal, SEC spokesman Craig Pinkerton said the following:
“The official determined the Kentucky player committed an unsportsmanlike act in violation of Rule 10, Section 3, a Class A Unsporting Technical Infraction, resulting in the awarding of two free throws to Texas A&M.”
However, as Kyle Tucker points out, nothing in that section applies to what Humphries did. In fact, only two clauses even seem relevant:
* “Disrespectfully addressing an official or gesturing in such a manner as to indicate resentment.”
* “Using profanity or vulgarity; taunting, baiting or ridiculing another player or bench personnel; or pointing a finger at or making obscene gestures toward another player or bench personnel.”
Again, Humphries’ action wasn’t directed at any one. He spiked the ball in excitement. Is it really that hard to admit the official screwed up?
Alas, as crappy as the call was, nothing’s going to change it. On to ‘Bama.
Gold standard refs in a first-class conference should have blown the whistle, huddled together, reviewed the tape, and determined that there was absolutely NO MALICE INTENDED. That should be the standard operating procedure, and not just a blanket rule that says, "If you throw a basketball, you get a technical foul." That said, had I been a referee and heard Marcus say (what we all saw him say after his bogus walking call), I would have called a technical on him for that--our guys must never say that, must control some of their emotions, and must also learn a big lesson from all of this. We are operating on slim margins here this year, and cannot afford one more time to have an incident like this scuttle any chance of a deep run in the tournament.
I don't care about the Lee comment either..have you ever played basketball or been close to the court? I'm asking because everyone talks literally the entire game...plus he wasn't saying it directly to anyone. They aren't mutes out there.
Did they (refs) not make the same call on Briscoe a couple of games back when he slammed the ball down after a Murray dunk?
Probably made you spit your false teeth out !
I understand judgement calls, but why not check with the other two refs to make sure they seen it the way he (Adams) did, or(don't know this or not) go to the monitor to double check.
As to the Briscoe tech I get why he got the tech, he wasn't involved in the play he picked up the ball and slammed it to the ground and it got away from him, if he would've caught it no harm no foul.
As to the Briscoe tech I get why he got the tech, he wasn't involved in the play he picked up the ball and slammed it to the ground and it got away from him, if he would've caught it no harm no foul.
I recently watched some games from the Gimel era on billionth's site, and man, Gimel was a foul magnet. He seemed to pick up 2 within a minute of being in the lineup. Rick always yelled at him.
Not according to most posters here. I didn't pay that much attention but a ton of posters said the T came not after the ball slam but after he slammed the ball and then chest bumped (I think it was) Murray. The call was interpreted, at the time, as being excess celebration.
As noted before. If you watch the replay from the under the goal view...Ref is trying to get the ball, hump is so excited excited he does not see or hear him. The ref feels "disrespected". Complete drama queen and bs
I believe they claimed it was because he slammed the ball, but it wasn't called until after he shoved Murray and was jawing with him. So it certainly appeared to be called on the shove, not spiking the ball, despite the post hoc justification.
But even if those two situations are similar, context is important. One ball was spiked by a player not involved in the play and he continued to celebrate after. The game was a blowout and the call had no effect other than to serve as a warning.
In the A&M game, the player spiked the ball with much less velocity, immediately said sorry, didn't celebrate raucously afterward. And, most importantly, as an official you KNOW that call can alter the outcome of the game. There were 9 seconds left in a one point game. That's the part that gets me.
I said in another post, could he have called it…sure. Should he have called it…absolutely not. I'd like to think I would say that if the shoe was on the other foot too. I wouldn't reject the gift if it was given to UK, but that's what it was…a gift.
I can tell you why this never happens at any level!
Because most assigners don't want to cause any shake-ups. They would just rather stick with what is in place and go with it. I know because I see it in my association... And a couple others.
Sad but True!
And this is exactly why I was scratching my head when some were cheering for Duke to beat UL. UL is out of tge dance, what they do doesn't matter in the least but if Duke won that game it would be coupled with their win @UNC and what you see happen is Duke being slid into a higher seed than UK and into a favorable bracket.
Yep! A year or so ago, I gave blood and everyone who has heard the story has agreed that the actions of the person who took my blood were appalling. I decided to complain to the organization directly but I could not remember her name. The response was shocking: "Oh yeah, that was Brenda. She has been working for us for over 20 years!"
I say that to say that incompetence, even gross incompetence, is often overlooked because it is easier to just keep sending out someone who is incapable of doing the job.
I agree, I don't want to but I do. I could tell you many stories about my time overseas and here as a manager/ supervisor and prove your point more often than not that is how it is. Try to change for the better and see how hard others fight against you. Do the right thing and you get push back from some....Do it anyway. (Sleep better... 
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Q: Is there a shortage of good refs in college basketball?
"We always need quality officials, and our definition of quality officials is NCAA Tournament officials -- the top 100 in the United States. Basically, I've told the (SEC) coaches that hopefully in the near future I can walk in and say every conference game is refereed by NCAA Tournament officials."
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This guy is a joke, too. He needs to be looked into just as much as Pat Adams.
Thanks for the reply,I wasn't clear on why they called Briscoe for the T, there was a bit of delay on that one.I thought maybe they waited till the ball came down(he spiked it with more force than did Hump)
The A&M game situation is just so bad on multiple levels,it wrongly justifies or opens the door for T'eeing up anyone who celebrates anything during the game(screaming or flexing after a dunk ,slapping the floor,cheat bump or high five) I am waiting someone on Dukes team to to get t'ed up for a floor slap.
It was a wrong call if the score had been 80-70 and it sure was wrong given the time and score
Do the rules change when the clock is running down? It was a judgement call just like every other call made by refs. I probably wouldn't have called it but the clock certainly wouldn't have entered into the decision.
Next time this poor excuse of a ref comes to Lexington, let's boo every call he makes against UK.
that is a really, really good quote...I do a little business coaching and speaking; and I am going to use itI agree, I don't want to but I do. I could tell you many stories about my time overseas and here as a manager/ supervisor and prove your point more often than not that is how it is. Try to change for the better and see how hard others fight against you. Do the right thing and you will get push back from some....Do it anyway. (Sleep better...
Like a lot of our matchups against the Dores in Nashville, I look for UK to have 3 or more players foul out and Vandy to spend most of the day at the free throw line.
Don't tell me I have to add it to my sig?
(Thanks, I try to make a difference to those around me for the better.)
It's good. The apology will be taken into consideration when they seed us for the tournament.............
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