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Stoops deserves some halo effect for the two citrus bowls. Again I qualify by saying he’s a solid coach and deserves credit for many things but I don’t think it should be to the level of inventing the game. I think sometimes he ought to send Joker 100k of his salary for extra halo effect with some of the fan base because some only seem to remember the year before he came in because it was ridiculously bad. It’s like we’ve forgotten that we had been to bowl games 5 of the 6 prior years to him coming in and one season had 3 top 10 wins with a much better East to get through playing with rosters of 2 star type guys. Yes historically UK struggles but the only difference between he and brooks is the East is weaker and stoops has been given facilities and resources
So we should bring Brooks back? What is your point
 
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You can't fire a winning coach at a perennial bottom feeder program and expect to get better. The world, and other coaches, will look at you like you're an idiot if you make that move. What coach, who is better than Stoops, will come here when we have fired the one coach who has performed, what in the eyes of many outsiders, is a miracle at Kentucky by making us a winning program. It's just a ridiculous notion that schools like Kentucky fire winning football coaches. I'm saying that when it comes to management and strategy decisions on how to build and sustain a program, he doesn't have a clue. If he were in charge, we would be back to being bottom feeders again.
I am not saying fire him because Mitch never would and he doesn’t deserve to be fired. I am saying I wish he would take a job offer elsewhere and we could get a new coach in that plays a bit more of modern football and is not so damn conservative. That would be fine by me.
 
MS and JC - both married to a system that is aging faster than they are. Both great coaches. Both unwilling to change though. Both too stubborn to turn over the reigns on offense without sticking their nose in it too damn much. But I wouldn’t fire either. Just make a few changes please.
 
Being a consistent winner simply means winning more games than you lose. How is that laughable? We clearly are a consistent winner.

You are clearly delusional. Most fans are not interested in firing Stoops.

You apply that same concept to your life? If so, it could explain a lot for ya. 😉
 
Would I like to compete for a national championship? Heck yeah I would. Would I like to be where we were for 40+ years of my time on this earth and fighting with Vandy for the worst football program in the SEC? Heck no. I guess some of us are happy and content with the gains made to this point while others think it isn't happening quick enough.

Kirby Smart has been at UGA for less time than Stoops has been at UK. Tell me more about how it takes such a long time to build a winning program again?????
 
I am not saying fire him because Mitch never would and he doesn’t deserve to be fired. I am saying I wish he would take a job offer elsewhere and we could get a new coach in that plays a bit more of modern football and is not so damn conservative. That would be fine by me.
Just curious...what coach(es) do you have in mind that you think could take the program to the next level?
 
Kirby Smart has been at UGA for less time than Stoops has been at UK. Tell me more about how it takes such a long time to build a winning program again?????
You can't compare UGA to Kentucky...it's apples and oranges. UGA finished top 10 in the nation in 2 of the 5 years before Kirby's arrival. In his 15 years at UGA, Richt had their program finishing in the top 25 11 of those years. UGA won the SEC east 7 times prior to Kirby. He absolutely took them to that elite level, but they were already at a very good level. It's much easier to do that at a program like UGA than Kentucky.

A better comparison might be Kansas State under Bill Snyder, Wisconsin under Barry Alverez and VaTech under Frank Beamer. Those are the 3 off the top of my head that I can think of that took a perennial lower tier school and made them into a consistent winner.

Can you think of any others?
 
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stoops biggest problem is he can’t get the offense right. We don’t recruit good enough to beat the best teams in the sec without it. If that 2018 team had any semblance of an offense they could’ve beat Georgia and go the sec title game. But they didn’t. We need a program changing QB the foundation is there but we need a special player to take us over the top. We will see if he can find one.
 
stoops biggest problem is he can’t get the offense right. We don’t recruit good enough to beat the best teams in the sec without it. If that 2018 team had any semblance of an offense they could’ve beat Georgia and go the sec title game. But they didn’t. We need a program changing QB the foundation is there but we need a special player to take us over the top. We will see if he can find one.
Maybe Mertz is good enough to at least keep defenses honest. Probably should have taken him.
 
At what point do fans start holding Stoops accountable just like they do Cal? lol it’s funny how fans want this program to make it to that next level but that’ll never happen under Stoops. He’s paid 9 million a year to win a pointless bowl game every year. Kentucky should pay that to an actual football coach…..
So you would rather pay half that and go back to 2 to 5 wins and no bowl games every year. That's the way it was for the 60 years prior to Stoops. When he took over there was maybe 1 or 2 four stars on the team, and less than 5 players that could run a 4.5 forty. He's had 2 1p win season in the last few years, we've had 2 the prior 60 years, one under Bear Bryant and one under Fran Currcy.
 
So your position is we should Accept 30+ beat down by teams like UGA. Is that the best we csn hope for?
Question: What happened to TCU in the Championship game last year. Georgia winning the last 2 Championships and favored to win it again this year is no accident, just look how many players they've put in the NFL the last couple of years.
 
There’s plenty of people who won’t accept mediocrity.

You just have surrounded yourself with people who think like you, not like how a winner thinks.
I don't accept mediocrity. I think our floor this year should be 8-4, which I don't think is mediocrity. I just don't know who this magic coach is out there that will make us a top 10 team year in and year out.
 
You apply that same concept to your life? If so, it could explain a lot for ya. 😉
Since you don't know me at all, you just made another ignorant comment. I'm a very successful business owner, so I understand how to manage and build an organization. Now make up something you do so you can say the same.
 
Since you don't know me at all, you just made another ignorant comment. I'm a very successful business owner, so I understand how to manage and build an organization. Now make up something you do so you can say the same.

I would love to support your business. Could I get the name of said business???

3-2-1… deflection begins. 😂😂😂
 
What about Dukes coach? He seems to be pretty good. The point he is trying to make is Stoops still can’t beat really good teams, just teams like Vandy, SC, Missouri. There are many coaches that could do that. He is conservative, predictable and easy to prepare for. I wish Iowa would call and he would go there. I am one that is more than willing to try someone new at this time.
Guarantee you Duke's coach wouldn't want the SEC gauntlet compared to his ACC competition. There are very few programs in the nation that could, if any, have the winning percentages they have in their current conference. Take Ohio State and Michigan, put them in the SEC and they'd have a hell of time making the play offs.
 
Guarantee you Duke's coach wouldn't want the SEC gauntlet compared to his ACC competition. There are very few programs in the nation that could, if any, have the winning percentages they have in their current conference. Take Ohio State and Michigan, put them in the SEC and they'd have a hell of time making the play offs.
I know what you are saying about the conferences. But you can’t take other teams and put them in the SEC. What I am saying is maybe Dukes coach or let’s say Luke Fickell comes to UK and coaches the group we have. That is what I want. We have pretty good players and I think in a different system we would be a better team. Stoops plays scared and plays not to lose. Almost seems like he doesn’t have confidence in his players. Just way too conservative. That is why I won’t object to him leaving if he ever does. Just don’t think he can get us to 8-9-10 wins consistently. I am not expecting titles with our football team, especially with Stoops as coach.
 
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Since you don't know me at all, you just made another ignorant comment. I'm a very successful business owner, so I understand how to manage and build an organization. Now make up something you do so you can say the same.

I’m an ER nurse in Lexington. Not hard to look up or find me.

Now, the name of your prestige business again???
 
Have you watched UK football? We’ve been garbage in my life besides Brooks. Mumme was fun but not good.
Brooks, like Stoops inherited a bad program that was in decline. Brooks was 39-47 in his tenure at UK. Stoops is 71-60. Loved Brooks, but Stoops has done things here that no one else has.
 
Kirby Smart has been at UGA for less time than Stoops has been at UK. Tell me more about how it takes such a long time to build a winning program again?????
🤣🤣 You are trying to compare the UGA and UK football programs? Dear Lord you could at least try to compare us to another program that has sucked for the greatest majority of 100 years. What a horrible take. 😂😂
 
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I would love to support your business. Could I get the name of said business???

3-2-1… deflection begins. 😂😂😂
If you are sincere, I appreciate your desire to support a locally owned business. We should all do more of that. Unfortunately, my business is not something you can support. I own a consulting firm that works with electric, gas, and water utilities to do cost studies, depreciation studies, and design rates.
 
We could probably get Muschamp or Butch Jones to replace him, possibly even Napier after this year. I say we go for it.
 
🤣🤣 You are trying to compare the UGA and UK football programs? Dear Lord you could at least try to compare us to another program that has sucked for the greatest majority of 100 years. What a horrible take. 😂😂
Yeah, his post is probably one of the dumbest comments I’ve ever heard on any football board in the last three decades.
 
If you are sincere, I appreciate your desire to support a locally owned business. We should all do more of that. Unfortunately, my business is not something you can support. I own a consulting firm that works with electric, gas, and water utilities to do cost studies, depreciation studies, and design rates.

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🤣🤣 You are trying to compare the UGA and UK football programs? Dear Lord you could at least try to compare us to another program that has sucked for the greatest majority of 100 years. What a horrible take. 😂😂

Ok, how many examples do you want me to provide of coaches who have turned around programs in less time than 11 years??? I can provide lots and lots…..
 
Ok, how many examples do you want me to provide of coaches who have turned around programs in less time than 11 years??? I can provide lots and lots…..
I would be curious to see the list of coaches who turned around programs with a similar history as UK and have turned that program into one who has sustained success.
 
Not very often. And we have gone to much more than music city bowls. How many times in the history of UK football have we gone to 5 straight bowls?

If our objective is to make it to meaningless bowl games that players quit before they play in because it’s such a bad bowl game, then yes, Stoops is your guy.
 
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