Rupp Retired 48 Years Ago, Since Then UK Has Won 60.5% Of SEC Road Games; Cal 61.6%

[dlh331]

Folks really need to remain calm. No UK coach has been overly successful in SEC road games since Coach Rupp. Since 1973 we are 242-158 in SEC road games. Each coach's record:

Hall 68-49 for 58.1%

Sutton 20-16 for 55.6%

Pitino 41-24 for 63.1%

Smith 52-28 for 65%

BCG 8-8 for 50%

Cal 53-33 for 61.6%

Freshmen lose on the road, so do sophomores, juniors, seniors.

 

[know1]

People like you just don't get it. Yes, our record overall is still good. What bothers a bunch of us is that we have a coach whose priority doesn't seem to be winning college basketball games or championships. If he was still winning those championships, people would be willing to look the other way. But championships now seem highly unlikely, so he's being called out about it.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Wow Pitino and Smith with better percentages than Cal.

This is solid fodder for the Naysayers.

 

[Smashcat]

Wow Pitino and Smith with better percentages than Cal.

This is solid fodder for the Naysayers.

Bring back Tubby. Bring back Pitiner.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Folks really need to remain calm. No UK coach has been overly successful in SEC road games since Coach Rupp. Since 1973 we are 242-158 in SEC road games. Each coach's record:

Hall 68-49 for 58.1%

Sutton 20-16 for 55.6%

Pitino 41-24 for 63.1%

Smith 52-28 for 65%

BCG 8-8 for 50%

Cal 53-33 for 61.6%

Freshmen lose on the road, so do sophomores, juniors, seniors.

If you take out 1990, Pitino is 40-16. 1-8 in probation year. 71.4%. This upsets some but that year weighs down the remainder of his time here.

 

[bcox13]

People like you just don't get it. Yes, our record overall is still good. What bothers a bunch of us is that we have a coach whose priority doesn't seem to be winning college basketball games or championships. If he was still winning those championships, people would be willing to look the other way. But championships now seem highly unlikely, so he's being called out about it.

We have 8 in all of history. The other coaches must not have given a shit about winning them either.
Rupp didn’t win one his last 14 years...I wonder why he quit caring

 

[jace2012]

People like you just don't get it. Yes, our record overall is still good. What bothers a bunch of us is that we have a coach whose priority doesn't seem to be winning college basketball games or championships. If he was still winning those championships, people would be willing to look the other way. But championships now seem highly unlikely, so he's being called out about it.

Yeah your right. Cal just loves to lose to games.
A Sense of Entitlement

 

[mdlUK.1]

People like you just don't get it. Yes, our record overall is still good. What bothers a bunch of us is that we have a coach whose priority doesn't seem to be winning college basketball games or championships. If he was still winning those championships, people would be willing to look the other way. But championships now seem highly unlikely, so he's being called out about it.

Priority isn’t winning games? He’s won more than anyone during his tenure. Winning NC is Not an every other year thing at UK.

Rupp’s last Nic was in 1958

20 years later, we won in 78

18 years later we won in 96 runner up 97 and won again in 98.

14 years later, we won in 2012.

So stop acting like we should win every year. Cal has us in the hunt every year! Putting players in the pros is a big part of our recent success. SMH

 

[katwest]

Wow Pitino and Smith with better percentages than Cal.

This is solid fodder for the Naysayers.

That doesn't matter, there are still to many on here that say do you want the Tubby days back. No matter what he did, most didn't want him or give him any credit. His first 6 years was as good as any, but you never hear that.

 

[mdlUK.1]

That doesn't matter, there are still to many on here that say do you want the Tubby days back. No matter what he did, most didn't want him or give him any credit. His first 6 years was as good as any, but you never hear that.

Tubbyball as good as any? Even in 98, fans hated the style of play most of the year.

 

[know1]

We have 8 in all of history. The other coaches must not have given a shit about winning them either.
Rupp didn’t win one his last 14 years...I wonder why he quit caring

Again, it's not the results. It's the actions.

 

[katwest]

Tubbyball as good as any? Even in 98, fans hated the style of play most of the year.

Cherry pick my post all you want, I said the first six years. Haters gonna hate.

 

[CB3UK]

Weve won the SEC outright 4 times under Cal and tied Aggie for a fifth.

Considering how weve been recruiting and how the rest of the SEC has been these past 11 seasons, that's flat out unacceptable.

 

[mdlUK.1]

Cherry pick my post all you want, I said the first six years. Haters gonna hate.

And I said it started in his FIRST year

 

[mdlUK.1]

Weve won the SEC outright 4 times under Cal and tied Aggie for a fifth.

Considering how weve been recruiting and how the rest of the SEC has been these past 11 seasons, that's flat out unacceptable.

Go pull for another team then.

 

[katwest]

And I said it started in his FIRST year

So you are saying you are not happy with the title he won, what fans, care to elaborate? so they didn't like the style most of the year, GTFO

 

[CB3UK]

Go pull for another team then.

Real intelligent rebuttal. "If you dont like subpar results go root for someone else!"
Zero excuse not to have won the SEC 7 or 8 times during Cals tenure with the players weve had.
Zero.

 

[mdlUK.1]

So you are saying you are not happy with the title he won, what fans, care to elaborate? so they didn't like the style most of the year, GTFO

Reading comprehension not your strong suit? I said fans were complaining MOST OF THE YEAR. Of course I’m happy with the NC but again, most of the year, didn’t care for the style of play.

 

[Backer cutter]

If we are pulling up stats that far back, why not compare all of the recruiting classes before Cal to his? Then compare the results. And while we are at it, compare numbers of players in the pros? I think it would show Cal has underachieved here.

 

[katwest]

Reading comprehension not your strong suit? I said fans were complaining MOST OF THE YEAR. Of course I’m happy with the NC but again, most of the year, didn’t care for the style of play.

Why does the style of play matter if you win it all, they were the only team to win it and have no first round draft picks. Maybe he didn't have the horses to play another way and win in his opinion. That goes back to not liking him, hiding your true feelings isn't your strong suit.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

People like you just don't get it. Yes, our record overall is still good. What bothers a bunch of us is that we have a coach whose priority doesn't seem to be winning college basketball games or championships. If he was still winning those championships, people would be willing to look the other way. But championships now seem highly unlikely, so he's being called out about it.

His priority is to win games (thus titles) at UK. It’s weird that you think otherwise.

 

[bcox13]

Again, it's not the results. It's the actions.

That’s an awful mantra for any business, college basketball included

 

[Lovebaskelball]

If we are pulling up stats that far back, why not compare all of the recruiting classes before Cal to his? Then compare the results. And while we are at it, compare numbers of players in the pros? I think it would show Cal has underachieved here.

How do you under achieve when you have the most wins in your tenure?

 

[mdlUK.1]

Why does the style of play matter if you win it all, they were the only team to win it and have no first round draft picks. Maybe he didn't have the horses to play another way and win in his opinion. That goes back to not liking him, hiding your true feelings isn't your strong suit.

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Tubby was my first choice back then but yes, his style of play was a disappointment. And he left the program in such bad shape, we could only get bcg. If you’re trying to imply it was race, GFY!

 

[mdlUK.1]

Real intelligent rebuttal. "If you dont like subpar results go root for someone else!"
Zero excuse not to have won the SEC 7 or 8 times during Cals tenure with the players weve had.
Zero.

Won 6 SECT titles. 4 of the last 5. Soooooo

 

[Backer cutter]

Op is comparing road wins of all coaches since Rupp. That’s what I responded to. Cals win total is great, I agree. His championships are lacking when you compare the things I pointed out, that’s how.

 

[CB3UK]

Won 6 SECT titles. 4 of the last 5. Soooooo

The SEC champion is regular season. "We won 3 games in 3 days, so 3 months of poor basketball is totally OK!!!!"
Get serious.

Edit: and 6 of 10 total. Which I didnt cite because while I believe we should win that every year, 6 out of 10 for the random SECT is acceptable for me. The SEC regular season is not historically random. Those championship numbers there are subpar, point blank, period.

 

[mdlUK.1]

The SEC champion is regular season. "We won 3 games in 3 days, so 3 months of poor basketball is totally OK!!!!"
Get serious.

Smh.

 

[CB3UK]

Smh.

I didnt realize our fan base had become Georgia and Ole Miss and we onlt care about the SECT and NCAAT and the regular season is completely inconsequential. Enjoy your enabling of mediocrity! Have a good one, Im done here.

 

[katwest]

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Tubby was my first choice back then but yes, his style of play was a disappointment. And he left the program in such bad shape, we could only get bcg. If you’re trying to imply it was race, GFY!

He played the same style of play at Georgia, but it was a disappointment to you here, not sure I understand that one. BCG was who we settled for, using a hiring firm was not a good idea. He was a hot commodity at the time who could not handle a big time program like Kentucky, in over his head. The truth hurts don't it.

 

[mdlUK.1]

I didnt realize our fan base had become Georgia and Ole Miss and we onlt care about the SECT and NCAAT and the regular season is completely inconsequential. Enjoy your enabling of mediocrity! Have a good one, Im done here.

Good riddance!

 

[mdlUK.1]

He played the same style of play at Georgia, but it was a disappointment to you here, not sure I understand that one. BCG was who we settled for, using a hiring firm was not a good idea. He was a hot commodity at the time who could not handle a big time program like Kentucky, in over his head. The truth hurts don't it.

I don’t give a crap how he played a uga. I kinda thought assisting potion and seeing how successful that style was,he might want to continue that. If you like tubbyball so much, go follow high point.

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

Tubbyball as good as any? Even in 98, fans hated the style of play most of the year.

But you think they love the current style???

 

[mdlUK.1]

But you think they love the current style???

Most of us do.

 

[katwest]

I don’t give a crap how he played a uga. I kinda thought assisting potion and seeing how successful that style was,he might want to continue that. If you like tubbyball so much, go follow high point.

Take your own advice, he was your first choice!!

 

[$Z71$]

Weve won the SEC outright 4 times under Cal and tied Aggie for a fifth.

Considering how weve been recruiting and how the rest of the SEC has been these past 11 seasons, that's flat out unacceptable.

In the past 30 seasons since 1990 we have outright won the SEC 9 times and tied 3 times. Cal has won 4 times and tied once in 10 seasons. So Cal wins the SEC 50% of the time and outright 40%.

The last 30 years we won it 12 times or 40% and outright 9 time at 30%.

Use only Pitino and Tubbys years and it’s 5 outright in 20 years so 25% and 7 counting ties at 35%.

So tell me again why it’s unacceptable? It’s performing above what we have in the past 3 decades.

 

[CB3UK]

In the past 30 seasons since 1990 we have outright won the SEC 9 times and tied 3 times. Cal has won 4 times and tied once in 10 seasons. So Cal wins the SEC 50% of the time and outright 40%.

The last 30 years we won it 12 times or 40% and outright 9 time at 30%.

Use only Pitino and Tubbys years and it’s 5 outright in 20 years so 25% and 7 counting ties at 35%.

So tell me again why it’s unacceptable? It’s performing above what we have in the past 3 decades.

Pitino began on probation.
Arkansas was a legit contender. We havent had anyone in the league akin to that since Cals been here.
Tubby underperformed and people complained, so you cant use thar as the bar when people were saying then he was below the bar.
And BCG gonna BCG.

Why is it OK for you to settle for secone and third place when we are financially, recruiting, and fan support light years ahead of the rest of the conference.

Do you think Alabama fans are sitting around content with 11-2 this season because LSU won, or are they telling themselves they are Alabama and losing to LSU was unnacceptable?

4 outright titles with what weve had here,unprecedented levels of talent, which is a hell of a statement considering our history, is simply not getting it done during the regular season.

 

[Mojocat]

Real intelligent rebuttal. "If you dont like subpar results go root for someone else!"
Zero excuse not to have won the SEC 7 or 8 times during Cals tenure with the players weve had.
Zero.

meh. We've won 49 SEC regular season titles, all the others (current and former members) have 53. We've won 31 SEC tournament titles, all the others 28. SEC Titles are nice, but at this point, I don't really care. What I want are final fours and titles.

Regular disclaimer about recruiting touts: yes, we've had more talent. They are almost all freshmen. You can say "Cal had more talent". You can also characterize it as "Cal beat the other guy's seniors with freshmen." Both are true, but folks want to forget half of it.

 

[CB3UK]

meh. We've won 49 SEC regular season titles, all the others (current and former members) have 53. We've won 31 SEC tournament titles, all the others 28. SEC Titles are nice, but at this point, I don't really care. What I want are final fours and titles.

Regular disclaimer about recruiting touts: yes, we've had more talent. They are almost all freshmen. You can say "Cal had more talent". You can also characterize it as "Cal beat the other guy's seniors with freshmen." Both are true, but folks want to forget half of it.

Its not about wanting either or. The SEC titles are a baseline expectation. A birthright. When you have what weve had at our disposal, and considering the talent level of what the rest of the SEC has had, its a problem.

If we were doing in the NCAAT the last 5 what we did the first 5 this wouldnt even be a talking point for me. But when things have been what theyve been, its one facet, one symptom of a larger issue. We're not getting either done. If it were one or the other thats different. I dont consider not winning the SEC and losing to Indiana Auburn and K State to be successful. Maybe thats just me.

 

[Michael Honcho]

How many African-American players have been on scholarship since ol' Adolph hung up the sheets?