okay... and? that's a pretty low bar. That does not make someone a DUDE lolI would dare say he's more athletic than Carr or Noah.
okay... and? that's a pretty low bar. That does not make someone a DUDE lolI would dare say he's more athletic than Carr or Noah.
And yet here you are in this thread spouting NIL rumors of $1.2 million you got from the internet.Oh wow BBN twitter page! I didn’t know it was on the internet it must be true then. Sorry.
I get it. But A) I flat don't like the guy, and no IU fan that I've talked to (10ish) are too upset he's leaving. Very telling. And B) there's gonna be nice players that haven't entered the portal yet. The fact that Pope isn't panicking and scraping the bottom (not saying Mgbako is) tells me he's working on stuff we don't know about.11 of the top20 are transfers are gone. and 21 of the top50 are gone (we grabbed one). It won't take long before that list dwindles. MgBako is 58th.. For me, I think yes, you try for fit as best you can.. but then you need to pivot and pivot fast.. and if a guy in the top60 wants to commit? You have to start thinking about taking him, so long as there isn't a glaring issue, and making it work later.
Not saying that has to be today.. but say a week passes and hes still on the board, and more guys are off it? Grab him. Grab him and put a note in for next year that we didn't do this right.
And, most importantly, he's a half effort guy. He would drive BBN nuts!Disagree - he's not athletic and fast in the sense of a high-level D1 athlete. He moves quite stiffly / upright + not a great dribbler of the basketball. I watched a good bit of IU last year.
Him being a DUDE is based on his HS recruiting ranking, which was, in hindsight, well off.
No!!!He averaged 12 & 5 in the Big 10 last year. Former top 10 recruit, potential high ceiling with competent coaching. Would be a good get.
If he is a "DUDE", then so is Bradshaw, lets bring him back. 🤣Man, so much to respond to. . .
1. This dude's twitter has 151 followers and he claims to be "Independent Sports Journalist".
2. MgBako is a DUDE. He is athletic, fast and everything that most experts on Rupp's Rafters said we needed last year.
3. Pope and his staff are smarter than all of us.
4. Chill TF out. Maybe take a break from RR.
I wonder what stipulations in the contract there would be for not paying him some of the remaining portion. I assume leaving the team is one. Presumably not injury, and I don't think it's allowed to have performance incentives.Also according to this guy UK wouldn't give all the money upfront to Gwath and that's why he returned to San Diego State.
Geez, insufferable much?okay... and? that's a pretty low bar. That does not make someone a DUDE lol
At least I know the rules before I come hereAnd yet here you are in this thread spouting NIL rumors of $1.2 million you got from the internet.
Don't deflect big dawg. Keep going, you were almost cooking there for a minute.At least I know the rules before I come here
Go find some more random twitter accounts that are posting nonsense to believeDon't deflect big dawg. Keep going, you were almost cooking there for a minute.
Oh, info from DMcGradySports Empire. OK.
First I've heard of this.... big time sources?
Lmao not my fault it’s your first day in the internetGo eat another dick and keep posting made up NIL numbers.
Man where did you get he was excused from Duke? He never even attended there, hard to be a team cancer when you're not on the team.So now UK is offering $1 mill+ to a dude that basically got “excused” from Duke for being a cancer, and half assed it at IU last season with his fellow teammates!
Tell me again, how UK has this “massive” NIL budget and there’s no cause for skepticism??
Excused from Duke? I thought he decommitted due to Flip and Mark Mitchell returning to Duke for their Sophomore year.So now UK is offering $1 mill+ to a dude that basically got “excused” from Duke for being a cancer, and half assed it at IU last season with his fellow teammates!
Tell me again, how UK has this “massive” NIL budget and there’s no cause for skepticism??
I said if he's going for Noah's spot as 11th-12th man, then sure he's worth a flier.Excused from Duke? I thought he decommitted due to Flip and Mark Mitchell returning to Duke for their Sophomore year.
Question for the board, who would you rather roll out there. Mgbako or Noah??? Love Noah, but Mgbakos star potential is definitely there and if Pope can get this kid to shoot the ball with efficiency. I believe he could take a step to being the player people thought he was coming out of college.
That’s the problem we don’t need the same players as last year we need to UPGRADE the roster in order to take the next steps!ANDREW CARR
6’11 235lb
’24-’25 Stats
GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS 35 24.0 54.4 32.4 74.8 4.7 1.7 0.7 0.7 2.0 0.9 10.3
FG 129-237
3PT 23-71
FT 80-107
MACKENZIE MGBAKO
6’9” 222 lbs
’24-’25 Stats
GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS 32 25.1 43.7 32.9 81.0 4.6 1.1 0.5 0.3 1.6 1.2 12.2
FG 139-318
3PT 47-143
FT 64-79 (92-112 in ’23-’24, before Ballo got to IU and started camping out in the paint)
Pretty close to being the same player, statistically. Mgbako missed games with an ankle injury and Carr did with a back injury. Carr was not a star, but did win us a few games. I imagine we would say the same about Mgbako at the end of next season. Hate pulling from IU, but willing to say “okay, I trust you Mark” if Pope signs him.
I would be fine with that, but especially if the best we can do for a Big is Mgbako!!!Geez, insufferable much?
Regardless, thank you for making my point anyway. We had no athleticism on the wing last year when Robinson went out period. He would be a significant upgrade to defense and athleticism.
Make sure to have your facts straight before you spew false information. I don’t love the potential signing but what you said is simply not true.So now UK is offering $1 mill+ to a dude that basically got “excused” from Duke for being a cancer, and half assed it at IU last season with his fellow teammates!
Tell me again, how UK has this “massive” NIL budget and there’s no cause for skepticism??
Agree, that should be the theory. But it’s looking like we can’t either afford 4 “superstars” to pair with O0 or can’t convince 4 to sign. That said, if the team gets 25% better and stays 50% healthier we will be cooking.That’s the problem we don’t need the same players as last year we need to UPGRADE the roster in order to take the next steps!
Mgbako is far from a great athlete.He's a typical Cal recruit. Great athlete but nothing else.
If that's the case, then GTFO. You can earn your pay like everyone else has to.Also according to this guy UK wouldn't give all the money upfront to Gwath and that's why he returned to San Diego State.
He’s a DUDE alright.Man, so much to respond to. . .
1. This dude's twitter has 151 followers and he claims to be "Independent Sports Journalist".
2. MgBako is a DUDE. He is athletic, fast and everything that most experts on Rupp's Rafters said we needed last year.
3. Pope and his staff are smarter than all of us.
4. Chill TF out. Maybe take a break from RR.
I have no desire to see us pay that kind of money for him.Look, this kid has an NBA body, and he is really talented. The question for him lies between his confidence with his jump shot and his heart/desire to play.
Too often at Indiana he was content with letting someone else have the moments. If he finds that killer motivation and plays with confidence, this could be a big get for UK or anyone.
He’s like a quarter effort guy.And, most importantly, he's a half effort guy. He would drive BBN nuts!
I agree 100% and I can’t believe we are considering it honestly.I’m an IU fan and I cannot wait to read this board if you guys pay Mackenzie Mgbako big money.
Dude cannot guard a chair, routinely half asses it on the court and is nowhere near the shooter he was billed to be.
Again, if he ends up at UK I cannot wait to see what you folks think of him.
It's never a good sign when a fan base goes from knowing a guy is garbage to suddenly trying to talk themselves into a recruitment.That’s the problem we don’t need the same players as last year we need to UPGRADE the roster in order to take the next steps!
We look desperate on this one. Up until four minutes ago, BBN collectively agreed that this kid was garbage.I agree 100% and I can’t believe we are considering it honestly.
Some of these folks haven't seen him. I watched quite a few IU games, and friends with IU fans. BBN would not be happy Mgbako, that I am sure of.I’m an IU fan and I cannot wait to read this board if you guys pay Mackenzie Mgbako big money.
Dude cannot guard a chair, routinely half asses it on the court and is nowhere near the shooter he was billed to be.
Again, if he ends up at UK I cannot wait to see what you folks think of him.
The portal is open until april 21. Probably will be plenty of optionsWere running out of options. Either guys didn't want us or we didn't like their fit (?), but in the end, the way I see it is that were about 1 for 50 on transfers. And 1mil isn't too bad of an asking price, even if i may or may not agree he's "worth it".
Have to build a team, and there's going to be some times where we overpay, oh well.
I would be worried if UK landed Reneau. Reneau never had any coaching at IU (Woody was useless) but was still a hard working badass who was very tough to stop in the paint.Man a mil for an Indiana reject. Teams out here landing studs and we got to convince a dud and give him a mil. Id rather have Z. WTF is going on?
We need to go get a stud or two, starter level before messing with bench pieces.
Man I hope Pope has everything right where he wants it and we just can't see everything behind the scenes in motion.
I’ve watched every game of theirs on B10 network or Fox and yeah he will infuriate a lot of people on here including me. He may be worth a flyer but not at a million plus. That’s starter level money which he shouldn’t be close to here.Some of these folks haven't seen him. I watched quite a few IU games, and friends with IU fans. BBN would not be happy Mgbako, that I am sure of.
Yeah Reneau I could get behind, at least he’s unstoppable on the block.I would be worried if UK landed Reneau. Reneau never had any coaching at IU (Woody was useless) but was still a hard working badass who was very tough to stop in the paint.
At UK Reneau would have expanded his game with a quality coach like Pope who could have taught Malik how to play defense without being a foul machine. Mgbako might be the single most disappointing Hoosier I’ve watched of, at least, the last 10 years.