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I hope the Rockets lose every game by 40. This hack a Jordan method has gotten freaking ridiculous. The guy attempted 28 free throws in the first half. HORRIBLE game to watch.

AND the Rockets are STILL losing hahahaha!
 
WildMoon said:
Why blame rockets?
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I blame the Rockets because their coach is deciding to do that. Just play ball. The fact they are doing it means they are desperate and don't believe they can beat them straight up. The fact they are doing it and losing is hilarious.

Those should be intentional fouls...two shots and the ball back. No play on the ball whatsoever and a foul away from the ball. That is not strategy...it is cowardly.
 
Not watching the game tonight. But I guess you guys didn't see the first three games. The clippers were the team doing the constant hack a shaq in those games. They were hacking Howard, T. Jones and J. Smith. Quit watching because that isn't basketball and because Griffin is a punk.
 
MojoYamamoto said:
Not watching the game tonight. But I guess you guys didn't see the first three games. The clippers were the team doing the constant hack a shaq in those games. They were hacking Howard, T. Jones and J. Smith. Quit watching because that isn't basketball and because Griffin is a punk.
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Griffin is far from a punk. Clippers are playing great basketball and are u selfish. Winning by 23 now. Terry, Howard, Smith and Harden are definition punks.
 
Rockets wouldn't do it if Jordan can make free throw.

It's not Houston issue. It's freaking deandre Jordan issue.
 
UPSCat4080 said:
Griffin is far from a punk. Clippers are playing great basketball and are u selfish. Winning by 23 now. Terry, Howard, Smith and Harden are definition punks.
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Clippers are by far the better team and finals bound. But Griffin is always taking cheap shots. And Barnes is by far the biggest punk in the series. There is a reason in a recent pole of NBA players the clippers were the team that was picked as the most disliked. I think the rockets were the second most disliked.
 
After game two the clippers cried to the media because the rockets shot 64 freethrows to their 32 (even though they intentionally fouled the bad freethrow shooters all game). Now let's see if the rockets do the same thing.
 
Griffin and Paul are two of the biggest punks and crybabies in any sport. Don't understand how any non Clipper fan could like them.

I think the Rockets are better. They're missing their starting PG and backup Center who is a big piece.
 
Lmfao. I hate everything about my Rockets right now, but OP clearly didn't watch the first 3 games. Doc rivers started the hack-a game in each of those games, with McHale following suite immediately after. Also, Houston is hardly the only team to do this to Jordan.

That aside, crap on Houston all you want, and I won't disagree. They are awful, they are trying to flop instead of playing, doing their best tyus jones impressionation, can't shoot, can't defend, can't coach. They simply don't even want to be there.

I hope they lose next game by 50 and bow out of the playoffs... The Mchale/harden/dwight trio just isn't going to work in the playoffs. One of them has to go this off-season.. As excited as I was for all three to come here.
 
Also, and most will flip out.. But oh well: T.Jones is being a little overhyped on these forums. He's good, he's shown improvement, and he was injured a lot of this year.. But I'm not sure how much better he's going to get.
 
ZaytovenCat said:
Griffin and Paul are two of the biggest punks and crybabies in any sport. Don't understand how any non Clipper fan could like them.

I think the Rockets are better. They're missing their starting PG and backup Center who is a big piece.
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Rockets got beat at home by LA without CP3 so the injury excuse not going to work.

I'm a Rockets fan and even with Pat Bev and Dmo we would still be down in this series
 
Let's face it, Harden and Howard are the Carmelo Anthony of their position. Do great in the regular season but can't amount to much of squat in the playoffs when they have to carry the team. They'll go down on the list of most talented losers along with folks like Pete Maravich and Charles Barkley.
 
wildcatsboston1984 said:
Let's face it, Harden and Howard are the Carmelo Anthony of their position. Do great in the regular season but can't amount to much of squat in the playoffs when they have to carry the team. They'll go down on the list of most talented losers along with folks like Pete Maravich and Charles Barkley.
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Dwight Howard has carried a team to the finals. In fact Dwight has been very good in the playoffs his entire career.
 
Harden just doesn't play winning basketball. Never has. He'll get hot and win games, but in the long run his lack of defense and poor shot selection are killers in the playoffs.

Right now, Blake is getting MJ level officiating. Any drive to the basket results in free throws. It's ridiculous.

Someone shouldve broken Barnes into 10 different pieces after what he said to Hardens mom; let alone all the other stuff he's said/done.
 
Griffin is averaging 25 points, 13 rebounds, and 7 assists in the playoffs with three triple double games. I'll take that punk on my team any day of the week,
 
It's a smart strategy. If you foul Jordan every time, he makes maybe 1 of 2 (usually less). They average like .94 points per possession. Houston is averaging 104.4 ppg and 101.3 possessions per game. This ends up being 1.03 points per possession.

By the numbers, it's a smart strategy, if the Rockets play their typical offensive game. The problem is they shot only 41% and outside of Harden (9 for 10), they shot 6 for 20 from the line.
 
KA4Prez said:
It's a smart strategy. If you foul Jordan every time, he makes maybe 1 of 2 (usually less). They average like .94 points per possession. Houston is averaging 104.4 ppg and 101.3 possessions per game. This ends up being 1.03 points per possession.

By the numbers, it's a smart strategy, if the Rockets play their typical offensive game. The problem is they shot only 41% and outside of Harden (9 for 10), they shot 6 for 20 from the line.
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Problem is that you eliminate all transition baskets. Not just breakaway baskets, but even being able to have a possession in which you have the numbers advantage. The Clippers will be able to set up their defense for every single possession and I'm guessing that this would seriously impact a teams points per possession.
 
I think they should be intentional fouls, two shots and the ball. They run up and grab DJ infront of the ref away from the ball, why is that not an intentional foul?
 
The_Godfather said:
Problem is that you eliminate all transition baskets. Not just breakaway baskets, but even being able to have a possession in which you have the numbers advantage. The Clippers will be able to set up their defense for every single possession and I'm guessing that this would seriously impact a teams points per possession.
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This is true, but it's also not like Jordan is in the game for 48 minutes. The timing of this strategy is crucial too. Taking Jordan out of the game significantly impacts the Clippers half court defense and rebounding.

I agree, it's a mistake to just foul Jordan all game, regardless of score. It should be a strategy best served when you're ahead. I think the Spurs cost themselves by going away from it in game 6...
 
KA4Prez said:
This is true, but it's also not like Jordan is in the game for 48 minutes. The timing of this strategy is crucial too. Taking Jordan out of the game significantly impacts the Clippers half court defense and rebounding.

I agree, it's a mistake to just foul Jordan all game, regardless of score. It should be a strategy best served when you're ahead. I think the Spurs cost themselves by going away from it in game 6...
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I tend to agree, but I feel that it is such an unnatural act that it completely disrupts the flow of a game. I just don't know if you want to upset something that is helping you lead a game.

I almost feel that it is best suited if you are TRAILING in a game and you need something in order to change momentum.
 
I actually don't mind the clippers. Still, I was at a loss for words when Jones got a technical for jumping straight up and going down with griffin. If anyone fouled him it was Howard or harden who had wrapped him up before he went into the air and Jones almost had his knee hyper extended on the way down. Didn't look like he even said anything either. weird.
 
shaudyshaud1 said:
Dwight Howard has carried a team to the finals. In fact Dwight has been very good in the playoffs his entire career.
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One appearance in the finals losing in five games hardly contradicts my opinion. And putting up stats while losing is kind of the point here. But if you want facts, he didn't really have a particularly good Finals as far as scoring goes, and this was without the pressure of being expected to win. In fact he never led his team in scoring in any of the Finals games, finishing as high as second in one game while letting everyone else on the team carry him on that side of the floor.
 
In defense of Harden (somewhat), the NBA Playoffs are a completely different game than regular season. Officials allow much more physical play, let the teams go at each other more. Hardens game is predicated on drawing fouls, and those just aren't going to happen in the playoffs. It's no surprise that his FTA's go down EVERY year in the playoffs. I don't think that's on him. His game just doesn't work in the post-season and it never will. Part of me is upset that he just doesn't evolve as a player, but another part of me is annoyed that we have two different styles of play.

Either way, after sleeping on it, I still don't like the trio of McHale/Harden/Dwight anymore. McHale is, a phrase we are all too familiar with, just "rolling the balls on the court" at this point. And Harden/Dwight aren't good team leaders and aren't made for the playoffs. Someone has to go. You will never win a title with those 3 together, imo. Either get the right coach to work with them, or get some solid starters/bench to go with just ONE of Harden/Dwight.
 
If I'm Daryl Morey, NO ONE is safe on the Rockets after this series. I would listen to any offers out there, even on Harden and Dwight.
 
wildcatsboston1984 said:
One appearance in the finals losing in five games hardly contradicts my opinion. And putting up stats while losing is kind of the point here. But if you want facts, he didn't really have a particularly good Finals as far as scoring goes, and this was without the pressure of being expected to win. In fact he never led his team in scoring in any of the Finals games, finishing as high as second in one game while letting everyone else on the team carry him on that side of the floor.
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Dwight strong point has always been his defense not his offense and the Rockets defensively have been a mess as a team this playoffs but Dwight has been solid defensively.
 
LineSkiCat said:
In defense of Harden (somewhat), the NBA Playoffs are a completely different game than regular season. Officials allow much more physical play, let the teams go at each other more. Hardens game is predicated on drawing fouls, and those just aren't going to happen in the playoffs. It's no surprise that his FTA's go down EVERY year in the playoffs. I don't think that's on him. His game just doesn't work in the post-season and it never will. Part of me is upset that he just doesn't evolve as a player, but another part of me is annoyed that we have two different styles of play.

Either way, after sleeping on it, I still don't like the trio of McHale/Harden/Dwight anymore. McHale is, a phrase we are all too familiar with, just "rolling the balls on the court" at this point. And Harden/Dwight aren't good team leaders and aren't made for the playoffs. Someone has to go. You will never win a title with those 3 together, imo. Either get the right coach to work with them, or get some solid starters/bench to go with just ONE of Harden/Dwight.
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Offensively James Harden has been fine. The problem with Houston is at the defensive end. Anytime Jason Terry is starting for you there will be problems.
 
Agreed. And losing Bev hurts big time. More than I thought it would.

But, you can't hide the fact that Hardens numbers have gone down, due largely to not getting to the line. It was the same thing last year. He didn't just forget how to draw fouls in the month of May, lol. The game is just different in the playoffs.

The whole offense is just bad. How many 15+foot running shots have we seen so far?! Woof.
 
LineSkiCat said:
Agreed. And losing Bev hurts big time. More than I thought it would.

But, you can't hide the fact that Hardens numbers have gone down, due largely to not getting to the line. It was the same thing last year. He didn't just forget how to draw fouls in the month of May, lol. The game is just different in the playoffs.

The whole offense is just bad. How many 15+foot running shots have we seen so far?! Woof.
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Oh I agree offensively he isn't the same because as you said he does depend on getting to the line. Which is why he was terrible last year. He had improved this year but he needs to get off to quicker start. Lots of his points are coming when we are getting blown out.
 
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