If believing he's in hell makes you feel better about the situation, have at it but he lived to be 76 and is now dead. It's why I don't believe in karma either. Yes, his life obviously wasn't what it was before the murders afterward and he did have a stint in prison but that's not exactly karma for murder. And again, he was able to live another 30 years and didn't appear to be too "tortured" by the whole thing. Same with Manson. Lived to be 83 and loved the attention. And no, I also don't believe Charles Manson's soul is screaming in tortured pain right now. It's a traditional thing to say after a bad person has died but this isn't Hellraiser, folks. It's real life and like Manson, he was able to live for decades and pretty much reveled in the aftermath.