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Revised Stat estimates

JonathanW

All-American
Jan 3, 2003
26,500
12,126
113
name Min - Pt, Reb, Ast, (other)

Oscar 30 - 15, 13, 1, (1.5 Blk, 1 Stl)
Toppin 27 - 13, 6, 1, (1.5 Blk)
Reeves 24 - 12, 3, 1
Wallace 28 - 11, 3, 3, (2.5 Stl)
Wheeler 28 - 9, 2, 7, (1 Stl)
Collins 16 - 6, 4, 1, (1.5 Blk)
Livingston 22 - 8, 5, 1, (1 Blk, 1 Stl)
Fredrick 15 - 8, 2, 2, (1 Stl)
(last 4 combined 2, 2, 1)
Onyeso 2m
Ware 4m
Theiro 3m
walkons 1m

Total 200 - 84, 40, 18, (7 Blk, 7 Stl)
 
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Oscar 13 pts, 12 rbs
Wallace 12 pts, 3 rbs
Toppin 11 pts, 5 rbs
Reeves 11 pts, 3 rbs
Wheeler 10 pts, 6 asts
Livingston 8 pts, 4 rbs
Collins 6 pts, 4 rbs
Fredrick 5 pts, 2 rbs
rest of team 4 pts, 4 rbs
 
name Min - Pt, Reb, Ast, (other)

Oscar 30 - 15, 14, 1, (1.5 Blk, 1 Stl)
Toppin 27 - 14, 6, 1, (1.5 Blk)
Reeves 24 - 13, 3, 1
Wallace 28 - 12, 3, 3, (2.5 Stl)
Wheeler 28 - 9, 2, 7, (1 Stl)
Collins 16 - 6, 4, 1, (1.5 Blk)
Livingston 22 - 8, 5, 1, (1 Blk, 1 Stl)
Fredrick 15 - 8, 2, 2, (1 Stl)
(last 4 combined 2, 2, 1)
Onyeso 2
Ware 4
Theiro 3
walkons 1

Total 200 - 87, 41, 18, (7 Blk, 7 Stl)
You have us averaging 4 less points per game than the 1996 Wildcats?

No Calipari UK team has ever come close to 87 points per game.
 
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name Min - Pt, Reb, Ast, (other)

Oscar 30 - 15, 14, 1, (1.5 Blk, 1 Stl)
Toppin 27 - 14, 6, 1, (1.5 Blk)
Reeves 24 - 13, 3, 1
Wallace 28 - 12, 3, 3, (2.5 Stl)
Wheeler 28 - 9, 2, 7, (1 Stl)
Collins 16 - 6, 4, 1, (1.5 Blk)
Livingston 22 - 8, 5, 1, (1 Blk, 1 Stl)
Fredrick 15 - 8, 2, 2, (1 Stl)
(last 4 combined 2, 2, 1)
Onyeso 2
Ware 4
Theiro 3
walkons 1

Total 200 - 87, 41, 18, (7 Blk, 7 Stl)
Those numbers look great to me, and look very realistic.
 
You have us averaging 4 less points per game than the 1996 Wildcats?

No Calipari UK team has ever come close to 87 points per game.
SOS this team is talented, experienced, deep and possesses makers. If we can have CJ at even 92.5% by the regular season….watch the F out!
 
Toppin 17 pts, 6 rbs
Oscar 14 pts, 16 rbs
Wallace 11pts, 3 rbs
Reeves 14 pts, 3 rbs
Wheeler 10 pts, 7 asts
Livingston 9 pts, 4 rbs
Collins 7 pts, 5 rbs
Fredrick 6 pts, 2 rbs
rest of team 4 pts, 4 rbs

One can dream...😎
 
name Min - Pt, Reb, Ast, (other)

Oscar 30 - 15, 14, 1, (1.5 Blk, 1 Stl)
Toppin 27 - 14, 6, 1, (1.5 Blk)
Reeves 24 - 13, 3, 1
Wallace 28 - 12, 3, 3, (2.5 Stl)
Wheeler 28 - 9, 2, 7, (1 Stl)
Collins 16 - 6, 4, 1, (1.5 Blk)
Livingston 22 - 8, 5, 1, (1 Blk, 1 Stl)
Fredrick 15 - 8, 2, 2, (1 Stl)
(last 4 combined 2, 2, 1)
Onyeso 2
Ware 4
Theiro 3
walkons 1

Total 200 - 87, 41, 18, (7 Blk, 7 Stl)

Well that team wins the title...
 
Pump the brakes fellas. Growing pains.

learning to play while someone is yelling

trust the process
 
I don't think he will average 15 per game but 6 may be a little light on Collins based on how much better and more confident he looks this year.
 
You have us averaging 4 less points per game than the 1996 Wildcats?

No Calipari UK team has ever come close to 87 points per game.
I know it's an outdated and kind of gross expression, but have you ever heard "there's more than one way to skin a cat"? There's more than one way to get a win. The reason most of Calipari's teams have not approached 87 points is really a matter of style of play. That 1995-96 team ran with people and constantly forced tempo with a press. So, possessions usually were very short on both ends, less than 20 seconds. I don't think kenpom was a thing back then, not sure, but he measures and ranks possession length offensively and defensively. I would bet that 1996 team had one of the shortest possession lengths on both ends in college basketball history. And then on the other end of the spectrum, you've got someone like Dean Smith who got an 8-10 point lead and played 4 corners the rest of the game. I can tell you which style I prefer and 99% of fans would agree with me. But the bottom line is, you can win with either style. Calipari's style falls in between and has historically been defense first, and it's not necessarily turnover forcing defense, it's "stay in front of your man and make him force a bad shot, then rebound" kind of defense.

Having said all of this, I would say this current UK squad has 3 advantages over some previous Calipari teams in regard to points average. #1 They want to play faster than previous teams. (that is a philosophical change Calipari made last season, though he often defaults to his previous style when he gets a lead late) This team wants to get up and down the court, and when the opponent cooperates, they can score in bunches. #2 This team also has the depth to press without losing too much to foul trouble. So, they can force tempo when it isn't to their liking without losing too much to potential foul trouble. #3 This team has some elite scorers and there are few players on the roster who are dead weight on the offensive end. (we've had that before- I won't name names) So, I don't think 87 is too unrealistic.
 
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Last year, until the injuries became too much we were averaging 82.5 after the KU game. Toss out the LSU game where we played half the game short 2 starters, and it was 83.5.
Is 87 high, not likely. Yes.
Is it possible, yes if everything fell into place.
 
Toppin 17 pts, 6 rbs
Oscar 14 pts, 16 rbs
Wallace 11pts, 3 rbs
Reeves 14 pts, 3 rbs
Wheeler 10 pts, 7 asts
Livingston 9 pts, 4 rbs
Collins 7 pts, 5 rbs
Fredrick 6 pts, 2 rbs
rest of team 4 pts, 4 rbs

One can dream...😎
I think is pretty close to right I think Oscar , Reeves and Toppin will all be in the 14-16 range in pts and Oscar will average around 12-13 rebs this season with so much better rebounders on the team. Wheeler and Wallace and Collins will the 4-6 scorers with Livingston right there . Think we average around 82 -83 pts a game.
 
These numbers are based off of 4 games in which we threw lineups out on the floor. Mainly to see if it worked or didn't work.
Oscar, Toppin, Collins, Wheeler,Reeves, Wallace and Livingston will make up 90% of the scoring . I believe the 3 bigs will avg around 40/45 and the 3 guards 32/37.
 
Reeves will lead us in scoring.
Doubtful. If you compare Reeve's stats from last year to Grady's from his last year at Davidson, they're pretty similar. Grady averaged 17 PPG to Reeves's 20, but shot a higher % from both 2 and 3. If you go look up their shot charts, they're pretty similar too in that both were good from 3, mid-range, and at the rim.

I think Reeves will probably average around 10-12. Oscar will still score 15 or more, but hopefully his post game will be better and fewer of his points will come from offensive rebounds.
 
Doubtful. If you compare Reeve's stats from last year to Grady's from his last year at Davidson, they're pretty similar. Grady averaged 17 PPG to Reeves's 20, but shot a higher % from both 2 and 3. If you go look up their shot charts, they're pretty similar too in that both were good from 3, mid-range, and at the rim.

I think Reeves will probably average around 10-12. Oscar will still score 15 or more, but hopefully his post game will be better and fewer of his points will come from offensive rebounds.

I think Grady (pre-injury) was the better shooter, but I think Reeves has more ability to create his own shot. Oscar's scoring went up at the end of the season, after injuries set in, because we needed it to. So I think it will go down this year.
I don't think Reeves will lead us in scoring, but think it is possible he could.
40% Oscar does, 30% Toppin does, 20% Reeves does, 10% Wallace does
 
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