Referee Roger Ayers’ workload
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No wonder they suck so bad, over worked by far.
Reminds me of a drunk piano player, probably seeing double
And has to pay for his own travel. Dear NCAA, do better.
He is from Old Dominion as well. Down to earth guy, hard working with good ethics. If you ever get to meet him , he will have few stories to share and he is always giving back . One of the best referees in the college basketball and believe it or not with big respect for human beings , including players and coaches. He is always doing his homework before a game and his best quality is his ability to communicate with coaches and players which a lot of times is important to cope with tense situations.
Here is an article about him
Here is an article about him
Final Four ref from Roanoke earned his spot in the ACC by doing the right thing 'when nobody else is watching'
Roanoke basketball referee Roger Ayers got hired by the ACC after he passed a crucial test: He treated a hotel desk clerk well.
cardinalnews.org
I’d pay for my own travel if they paid me 5k a day. I would live damn good.
He is not paid $5k a game
Travel expenses + about $2k for some venues. Less at smaller schools
(I was told by an Official friend)
Ayers' schedule is full because he is rated high and in demand.
People who think Officials cheat need to know:
...They do not work with same officials each night
...They are graded regularly and can have their schedule pulled
Travel expenses + about $2k for some venues. Less at smaller schools
(I was told by an Official friend)
Ayers' schedule is full because he is rated high and in demand.
People who think Officials cheat need to know:
...They do not work with same officials each night
...They are graded regularly and can have their schedule pulled
Well he sucks when doing UK games, I'm sure of that.
One problem with college officiating is they can say they're graded regularly all they want but there's no real central authority who does this and it's not systematic in any way. If anything the people in charge are only responsible for scheduling for a particular conference and they really don't have authority over games a referee works outside that conference. And these supervisors are generally retired refs themselves and they know and look out for each other.
The NBA after the Tim Donaghy incident brought in new blood and overhauled their review and scheduling system (including adopting the replay center in
Vegas bookies easily triple that for him
He is from Old Dominion as well. Down to earth guy, hard working with good ethics. If you ever get to meet him , he will have few stories to share and he is always giving back . One of the best referees in the college basketball and believe it or not with big respect for human beings , including players and coaches. He is always doing his homework before a game and his best quality is his ability to communicate with coaches and players which a lot of times is important to cope with tense situations.
Here is an article about him
Final Four ref from Roanoke earned his spot in the ACC by doing the right thing 'when nobody else is watching'
Roanoke basketball referee Roger Ayers got hired by the ACC after he passed a crucial test: He treated a hotel desk clerk well.cardinalnews.org
No one is reading an article about a shitty official on a Friday..
Well, from the looks of your avatar your not exactly a male model.
That's definitely enough to pay for his travel!
And the Tim Donaghy doc proved officials have agendas, know tendencies, and hold grudges. While I don't think most cheat, the proof is in the pudding. We have a bad record on the road when Ayers calls our games. It could be a coincidence but look, we all know Cal had a target on his back as our head coach. It was always the thing that baffled me. Pitino, K, and Williams could eviscerate officials and get calls in their favor and Cal would do the same and get a technical for being out of the box.
I have advocated for more officials on the floor because I think most blown calls happen because these guys are out of position and trying to keep up with 18-22-year-old athletes. In our game the other night, one official standing next to the bench made a foul call on us and the player was on the opposite corner baseline. There's no way that guy saw that call through 10 players basically standing next to Pope. Out of position and he made a bad call. End of the day, it's a power trip kind of job. You have to have some bit of being a jerk inside you because you know you are instantly going to be hated putting on a striped shirt. These guys absolutely let crowds, coaches and players get to them. They want to be a part of the show and there is real no consequences to being a bad ref because there aren't enough to go around as it is.
By the NCAA. This isn't the first year he has done this. In fact he does this every year and has forever. He was also big buddies with Ted Valentine, John Higgins, both of whom have insane schedules as well.
Valentine is 65 years old. It's hard for me to believe that these guys work this much and it doesn't affect their ability of the court.
The problem is that the people doing the grading are ex officials that sucked too. It’s just a big brotherhood. There are no more Irv Browns and Booker Turners. Many on this board are too young to know who they were.
Look no futher than the fact that Rooferee was a Final Four ref the same year he screwed UK so bad against UNC the round before.
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Don't get me wrong, he can afford it. Just the principle of the thing in my book.
"Hey, we want you to do this job."
"Cool, I can do it."
"And you gotta find your own way there..."
"....ok"
Ok. But not by the coaches or players that deal with him. Higgins was in demand by the ncaa too and go watch the Napier jump to the ground to see what satisfies the Ncaa. Apparently.
Ayers can't do anything about his crew making several bad calls. But, him knowing that, he could keep the calls leveled out better because of how physical Clemson was playing. Had they gotten two or three guys in foul trouble early like us, that aggression would not have been so one sided.
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Generally I can understand that but if they compensate well enough I have no problem with it. Maybe it is built into his salary.
Dayton to Tempe to D.C. in 3 nights.
ND to SF to D.C. in 3 nights. Damn SF to D.C. he has to be taking the red-eye flight to get there in time for game time.
The rest of the year, he can probably fly & stay whenever and where ever he wants for free using Mileage/Points. Although he probably doesn't want to go near an airport for a few months after all of that.
Ms. Ayers, is that you?He is from Old Dominion as well. Down to earth guy, hard working with good ethics. If you ever get to meet him , he will have few stories to share and he is always giving back . One of the best referees in the college basketball and believe it or not with big respect for human beings , including players and coaches. He is always doing his homework before a game and his best quality is his ability to communicate with coaches and players which a lot of times is important to cope with tense situations.
Here is an article about him
Final Four ref from Roanoke earned his spot in the ACC by doing the right thing 'when nobody else is watching'
Roanoke basketball referee Roger Ayers got hired by the ACC after he passed a crucial test: He treated a hotel desk clerk well.cardinalnews.org
Roger Ayers has "assisted" Coach K in more wins at Cameron Indoor Stadium over the past decade than any assistant coach that K had on staff.
The guy is an ACC Homer who did his job in the Clemson game.
The guy is an ACC Homer who did his job in the Clemson game.
I believe you.
But I’ve also personally seen so many situations where tape of an egregiously bad call was sent directly to the head office, they were forced to comment on it publicly, and their public comment was, “we agree with our official. No changes will be made and no disciplinary action will be taken”
…that this part about grading their officials, I simply can’t take them seriously. Even if they really do it I can’t believe they are doing it at a level that’s not a waste of their own time as a practical matter from a quality-of-officiating perspective.
Much more likely this is CYA territory. Plausible deniability.
Reffing is a thankless job that very few people wanted to do even in the days when Western Civilization was largely sane-ish and people would go outside to play. In our current culture it’s got to be next to impossible to find a ref. So they are absolutely making the most of what they’ve got to work with.
Those are the facts and I don’t really blame anybody for it. But I’m not afraid to call a spade a spade.
So the officials are graded and evaluated.
Higgins was awarded a final four after calling a minimum of four phantom calls on us. The Napier flop was less than a foot from him staring directly at it.
What good is the grading then??
Higgins was awarded a final four after calling a minimum of four phantom calls on us. The Napier flop was less than a foot from him staring directly at it.
What good is the grading then??
I don’t agree. Tim Donaughy said in his documentary he could control a game iwith 3-5 timely 50-50 calls.
Ayer’s and Higgins have gone way beyond 50-50 to down right phantom calls. There is an agenda there no doubt.
I almost spit out my lemonade when I read this.
I’m still struggling to figure out how Roger Ayers has enough time, given his busy schedule, to always be here on our forum to heap praise on himself.
Hmmm …hmmm . Hmmm. If you would just know what AYERS thinks about Coach K.
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