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Ramon Jefferson

I don't know if I feel better knowing we might have an insurance policy, or worse since the coaches feel they need one. If CRod was going to get only a 4 game suspension, we should be able to handle 3 OOC games with Florida being the only issue. And if CRod is going to play most of the season, the RB room is getting real crowded with another guy added. It's already 4 deep with guys who probably are expecting carries this year.
 
I don't know if I feel better knowing we might have an insurance policy, or worse since the coaches feel they need one. If CRod was going to get only a 4 game suspension, we should be able to handle 3 OOC games with Florida being the only issue. And if CRod is going to play most of the season, the RB room is getting real crowded with another guy added. It's already 4 deep with guys who probably are expecting carries this year.
With guys who are probably better then this cat.
 
This changed since KSR suggestion that four games was most likely?
Either way if a scholarship is open and we don’t know about CRod then might as well.
Either way....this kid, to me, isn't a difference maker like CRod. Besides if this is just 4 games....Wright, McClain, Smoke, Donut are enough. This spells to me, CRod is gone for year.

Besides, why 4 games suspension. Mitch is just a silly snoot if this is about some dumb NIL working vs. getting paid for nothing. Texas AM just bought kids that have never played a single snap in recruiting cycle. So why punish CRod when this is a new norm all teams are doing. This is just absurd and Mitch needs to make a statement instead of just letting this drag out.

And the biggest issue...Stoops might pick up and move on if he sees how the AD is handcuffing you like this vs. the teams he is competing against.
 
Either way....this kid, to me, isn't a difference maker like CRod. Besides if this is just 4 games....Wright, McClain, Smoke, Donut are enough. This spells to me, CRod is gone for year.

Besides, why 4 games suspension. Mitch is just a silly snoot if this is about some dumb NIL working vs. getting paid for nothing. Texas AM just bought kids that have never played a single snap in recruiting cycle. So why punish CRod when this is a new norm all teams are doing. This is just absurd and Mitch needs to make a statement instead of just letting this drag out.

And the biggest issue...Stoops might pick up and move on if he sees how the AD is handcuffing you like this vs. the teams he is competing against.
that is a lot of assumption without knowing the facts
i would wait and see the facts before i go on a rant
if it is 4 games my guess would be an NCAA violation
if i am not mistaken 1/3 of a season is the most they give without being ineligible for the year
 
that is a lot of assumption without knowing the facts
i would wait and see the facts before i go on a rant
if it is 4 games my guess would be an NCAA violation
if i am not mistaken 1/3 of a season is the most they give without being ineligible for the year
Yes...we don't know the facts...but the smoke is there and now we're on a RB out of left field....so message board projections is sort of what people do on message boards and there is plenty enough out there to make an assumption he'll be asked to miss games.

But even if it is a NCAA violation and suspension....so we're going to accept this BS when all of the teams we compete with have paid dudes that never had a chance to do "work" to earn it? TO single out one of our top players looks like pure crap given Bryce Young at Bama, all of Texas AM recruiting class, Tenn paid a QB a ton reportedly, etc...so what could CRod have done any worse than these situations?
 
At this point, it is fair to discuss the what-ifs if Rodriguez misses games or the entire season. I think it is still up in the air. But...I would be very careful speculating on what the reason is and that UK may be at fault in any way. Just a tought.
 
that is a lot of assumption without knowing the facts
i would wait and see the facts before i go on a rant
if it is 4 games my guess would be an NCAA violation
if i am not mistaken 1/3 of a season is the most they give without being ineligible for the year
I doubt it's much of an assumption that he's not the difference maker that CR is.
 
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Yes...we don't know the facts...but the smoke is there and now we're on a RB out of left field....so message board projections is sort of what people do on message boards and there is plenty enough out there to make an assumption he'll be asked to miss games.

But even if it is a NCAA violation and suspension....so we're going to accept this BS when all of the teams we compete with have paid dudes that never had a chance to do "work" to earn it? TO single out one of our top players looks like pure crap given Bryce Young at Bama, all of Texas AM recruiting class, Tenn paid a QB a ton reportedly, etc...so what could CRod have done any worse than these situations?
that is my point
 
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I don't know if I feel better knowing we might have an insurance policy, or worse since the coaches feel they need one. If CRod was going to get only a 4 game suspension, we should be able to handle 3 OOC games with Florida being the only issue. And if CRod is going to play most of the season, the RB room is getting real crowded with another guy added. It's already 4 deep with guys who probably are expecting carries this year.
I think you're right that it is to some degree insurance but Jefferson is reported to be an extremely talented back in his own right. I think Stoops is going all in to win the East this year. He knows he has the best quarterback in the division and a butt-load of talent in several other places. This is Levis' last year so it's balls-to-the-ball. Winning the East would be a historic accomplishment for this program and IMO a game changer.
 
I think you're right that it is to some degree insurance but Jefferson is reported to be an extremely talented back in his own right. I think Stoops is going all in to win the East this year. He knows he has the best quarterback in the division and a butt-load of talent in several other places. This is Levis' last year so it's balls-to-the-ball. Winning the East would be a historic accomplishment for this program and IMO a game changer.
UK needs somebody to get those 10-15 carries/game somebody like Rose got while CRod took a break. UK struggled somewhat in that area last year. This player would be perfect fit for that.
 
UK needs somebody to get those 10-15 carries/game somebody like Rose got while CRod took a break. UK struggled somewhat in that area last year. This player would be perfect fit for that.
There was a great interview on the Saturday Down South podcast on Tuesday last week where they discussed analytics and CRod and Levis were both covered at length. I highly recommend it especially if you are interested in advanced analytics. CRod, according to the analytics, has no comparison in the SEC. I knew he was good, but this was eye opening.
 
There was a great interview on the Saturday Down South podcast on Tuesday last week where they discussed analytics and CRod and Levis were both covered at length. I highly recommend it especially if you are interested in advanced analytics. CRod, according to the analytics, has no comparison in the SEC. I knew he was good, but this was eye opening.
Thanks for the tip.

Look at the winning TD vs Iowa. UK had no one on the roster who could've broken the tackle in the backfield then bull their way into the end zone the way CRod did. An argument can be made that a different play would've been called had CRod not been available. Still, that TD run was impressive.
 
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I think you're right that it is to some degree insurance but Jefferson is reported to be an extremely talented back in his own right. I think Stoops is going all in to win the East this year. He knows he has the best quarterback in the division and a butt-load of talent in several other places. This is Levis' last year so it's balls-to-the-ball. Winning the East would be a historic accomplishment for this program and IMO a game changer.
I asked in another tread Does he have to sit out or is he a Grad transfer ?
 
I asked in another tread Does he have to sit out or is he a Grad transfer ?
Good question and I don't know the answer, but you're right in that you have to sit one year going FCS to FBS, unless you're a grad transfer. Not sure if the covid year would come into play either.
 
There was a great interview on the Saturday Down South podcast on Tuesday last week where they discussed analytics and CRod and Levis were both covered at length. I highly recommend it especially if you are interested in advanced analytics. CRod, according to the analytics, has no comparison in the SEC. I knew he was good, but this was eye opening.
This. I'll say it again: C Rod is arguably the best player in the program since Josh Allen and Benny Snell. Would be a yuge loss if he can't play, and isn't the type of player who gets "replaced" one-for-one by anyone left on the roster or transfer.
 
This whole situation is so crazy and frustrating. If, if, if the newest rumor is true, & CRod is 'only' facing a multi game suspension.....honestly why would he bother coming back at all?

Who in the NFL is going to draft a RB who 1 year had a fumbling problem, then the next year had SOME kind of personal off the field issue that knocked him out for 25%-50% of the season?
 
This. I'll say it again: C Rod is arguably the best player in the program since Josh Allen and Benny Snell. Would be a yuge loss if he can't play, and isn't the type of player who gets "replaced" one-for-one by anyone left on the roster or transfer.
I leaned toward the we’ll be fine because we have RB depth crowd, but after learning the advanced analytics, I’ve flipped. They quoted a stat where CRod was the RB most often to get hit in the backfield in the SEC, but averaged almost 4yds gained. The rest of our team averaged less than 1 yd. That is an amazing stat. CRod was double the #2 SeC RB in this category.
 
At this point, it is fair to discuss the what-ifs if Rodriguez misses games or the entire season. I think it is still up in the air. But...I would be very careful speculating on what the reason is and that UK may be at fault in any way. Just a tought.

All this speculation could end today if somebody would like to inform us Billy Joes what the hell is going on. I understand no "verdict" has been reached, but it would be extremely helpful if everyone knew exactly why CRod's future might be at stake.

To be honest, all the secrecy sure makes UK look a bit suspect to me. If this isn't some silly University issue, wouldn't we know about it? For example, we know all about his DUI. We also knew alllll about Vito and Crew...and that was nothing but pure speculation and outright lies.

CRod was just named preseason All SEC and UK can't even tell us if he's gonna play or not.
 
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I leaned toward the we’ll be fine because we have RB depth crowd, but after learning the advanced analytics, I’ve flipped. They quoted a stat where CRod was the RB most often to get hit in the backfield in the SEC, but averaged almost 4yds gained. The rest of our team averaged less than 1 yd. That is an amazing stat. CRod was double the #2 SeC RB in this category.

Yea, that stat was insane.

1. It made me question our OL/scheme.
2. It made CRod look like a bigger badass.
 
I leaned toward the we’ll be fine because we have RB depth crowd, but after learning the advanced analytics, I’ve flipped. They quoted a stat where CRod was the RB most often to get hit in the backfield in the SEC, but averaged almost 4yds gained. The rest of our team averaged less than 1 yd. That is an amazing stat. CRod was double the #2 SeC RB in this category.
Yeah, I read the SEC StatCat data on that same strength of his last fall or December maybe. In any case, that's also what flipped me even if I was predisposed to liking his career YPC. It also flipped me into having questions about the quality of the OL coaching.
 
Yeah, I read the SEC StatCat data on that same strength of his last fall or December maybe. In any case, that's also what flipped me even if I was predisposed to liking his career YPC. It also flipped me into having questions about the quality of the OL coaching.

I'd lean towards saying that CRod is a very good back who played behind a good OL. The stats are best defined in the outliers.

Uga - 7 carrys. 7 yards. 1.0 per rush.
Chattanooga - 13, 46, 3.5
MissSt - 8, 34, 4.3
UT - 22, 109, 5.0

Dawgs just dominated. Nobody ran on them except for Bama. Miss St got ahead early, but wasn't giving up a lot of rush yards all year (3.6 ypc for the season).

Chattanooga is the really weird one. Did they sell out on the run? Levis burnt them pretty bad passing I know, but 13 for 46 is bad considering the opponent.
 
I leaned toward the we’ll be fine because we have RB depth crowd, but after learning the advanced analytics, I’ve flipped. They quoted a stat where CRod was the RB most often to get hit in the backfield in the SEC, but averaged almost 4yds gained. The rest of our team averaged less than 1 yd. That is an amazing stat. CRod was double the #2 SeC RB in this category.
Unbelievable stat. UF is pretty much an unknown but assuming CRod is out for that game it will be tough. We could’ve really leaned on him to get us ahead of the chains in what will be a loud atmosphere with some new offensive guys on the field.
 
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I wonder how much of CRod's 'hit in the backfield' stats were a result of the change of blocking scheme. Chattanooga and MSU were both somewhat early in the season, weren't they? UGA was just a beast and we somewhat moved back to inside zone as the season wore on, didn't we? With an extra blocker in the backfield under RS's scheme, I'm hoping this particular stat will be much reduced. None of our backs have proven they can break a tackle and drag a guy a couple of yards after contact like CRod has (although I think Wright may have the potential to be close to THAT guy). Hopefully, we don't need them to do it often.
 
I'd lean towards saying that CRod is a very good back who played behind a good OL. The stats are best defined in the outliers.

Uga - 7 carrys. 7 yards. 1.0 per rush.
Chattanooga - 13, 46, 3.5
MissSt - 8, 34, 4.3
UT - 22, 109, 5.0

Dawgs just dominated. Nobody ran on them except for Bama. Miss St got ahead early, but wasn't giving up a lot of rush yards all year (3.6 ypc for the season).

Chattanooga is the really weird one. Did they sell out on the run? Levis burnt them pretty bad passing I know, but 13 for 46 is bad considering the opponent.
That Chattanooga game was a weird one. Whole team seemed flat. Without that clutch pick six late in the 4Q that could very well have been an awful upset.
 
That Chattanooga game was a weird one. Whole team seemed flat. Without that clutch pick six late in the 4Q that could very well have been an awful upset.
Nick Saban recently said, and I'm paraphrasing, that the hardest thing to get a football team to do, is pull together and win games when your aren't playing at your best.

Every team, even the mighty Tide has games where they aren't playing anywhere near their full potential, either due to a let down after a big game, overlooking a weak opponent, looking ahead on the schedule etc. The best teams find ways to fight through those games and pull out a win. That to me is the missing ingredient that this team needs to acquire to win the East this year. Yea they did pull out the win against UTC but as you said they needed a lucky break to do it.
 
I agree. How is it our RB leads the SEC in avg times hit behind the line of scrimmage? And it’s not even close.
I could only guess it's because teams were keying on him more. He's the kind of back that you want to get down early because once he gets rolling he's very hard to take down.
 
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