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Portal Superstars

I definitely get where you’re coming from, but it’s also worth noting that UK is in recruiting cycle #2 for the Pope era, and obviously the first one was about as good as it could have possibly been, but he is the last of the powerhouse coaches to land a Top 5 freshman or portal transfer stud.

Time for that to change, if for nothing else, competition perspective!
Pope has only had one opportunity at UK to recruit the high school ranks and he was in on most of those guys late. When he got here last April, there were no top 5 high school guys left to recruit and most of the top 5 2025 guys had already been courted by or committed to other schools. He got in on Jasper Johnson and Moreno late and was fortunate to land them. I'm not going to sit here and act like Pope can't recruit top five players just yet. got to give that one some time.
 
You continue to prove your ignorance in all of this. I don't have the numbers and neither do you, but lets suppose the reports of Dent getting somewhere around 3 million are real and UK and UCLA both offered around that. He clearly wanted to be at UCLA as that is where he is from and his announcement was he was "Coming Home". Do you expect Pope to offer way over what he's worth when there are similar players out there?
I used an example of two or three guys to show we can't just get anybody we want. There are several others in that category. Pope did a tremendous job in the portal last year and milking everything he could out of it. He now knows what it takes in the SEC and seems to be going after athletic players which is the right thing to do. I am looking at the whole blanket of recruits that are available, who we have contacted, who we know we can't get now, who we have not contacted and who we have back to go with them.

Answer your question, no Pope should not overspend on one guy. With possibility of Oweh going pro we need half a team from the portal. Everybody understands that. At this point let's just wait and see who Pope can get and how they compare to the best players available right now. Once Pope is done with it then we can discuss if he got the type of players to win the championship.
 
Didn’t Dent also say we were his dream school?
How many recruits when Cal was here said Kentucky was their dream school and they didn't pick them? The answer is multiple recruits. It was so bad people started using it as the kiss of the death of a recruit said it. Kentucky is a blue blood program and well known so almost any recruit will acknowledge that or say they were a fan growing up or it is a dream school. Could also be a little hyper bowl from the recruit. So, in this case since he was from California and wanted to go home, he said the dream school thing to get UCLA to match or beat Kentucky's offer.
 
"Portal superstars" doesn't have to mean guys from Duke, UConn, Auburn, or Florida, etc. .... but that's how BBN interpreted it.
If guys are leaving those schools it's because they couldn't make it there. Why would we want them or think they could make it at UK?
 
How many recruits when Cal was here said Kentucky was their dream school and they didn't pick them? The answer is multiple recruits. It was so bad people started using it as the kiss of the death of a recruit said it. Kentucky is a blue blood program and well known so almost any recruit will acknowledge that or say they were a fan growing up or it is a dream school. Could also be a little hyper bowl from the recruit. So, in this case since he was from California and wanted to go home, he said the dream school thing to get UCLA to match or beat Kentucky's offer.
I get that to when Cal was here stuff recruits said that crap all the time. I figured it would be different now that Pope was coach. We honestly needed Dent and Pope didn't close. Hopefully we can get a great PG out of the portal to replace Butler. I’m a big fan of Lewis but he’s only a freshman and we all see that experience is what you need nowadays unless you’re a transcendent player!
 
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I get that to when Cal was here stuff recruits said that crap all the time. I figured it would be different now that Pope was coach. We honestly needed Dent and Pope didn't close. Hopefully we can get a great PG out of the portal to replace Butler. I’m a big fan of Lewis but he’s only a freshman and we all see that experience is what you need nowadays unless you’re a transcendent player!
Dent wasn't interested enough to even visit.
To state that Pope didn't close is to assume he was 50/50 with UCLA and UK and Cronin made him a better deal.
I guarantee you UCLA didn't pay him 3 mil because they didn't have to.
He may have come to UK if they had made an outlandish offer which wouldn't have benefited the program as a whole.
 
All this hand wringing and sobbing that we haven’t filled out next seasons roster yet. Let Coach cook.

Also nobody including the fact that our “ best guy/superstar/all sec player” Jaxon Robinson was in our portal class last season and unable to finish the season along with another important piece in Kerr Krissa.

I’d take a Robinson every year. Matter of fact I’d take all those portal guys back next season. Hoping we find another beast like Amari, shooters like Brea and Robinson, leader like Butler. Those guys were good players and people. We keep getting quality guys like them and add a couple more athletes plus stay healthy we will be fine.

I like the direction of the program. Blend in these 3 freshmen. So much is dependent on chemistry. Need to get the right fit.

Don’t panic. Be cool. We just went to the Sweet 16 beat up and hobbling on one leg.
 
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Pope has only had one opportunity at UK to recruit the high school ranks and he was in on most of those guys late. When he got here last April, there were no top 5 high school guys left to recruit and most of the top 5 2025 guys had already been courted by or committed to other schools. He got in on Jasper Johnson and Moreno late and was fortunate to land them. I'm not going to sit here and act like Pope can't recruit top five players just yet. got to give that one some time.
I have no doubt that Pope can recruit “Top 5” high schoolers. The question for me, however, is how much effort and resources should he put into that? Is it a value proposition or a vanity proposition? I tend to think it can quickly become the latter if you’re not careful and get caught up in the hype of recruiting one-and-done freshmen.

I believe for any coach the question of how much you invest in a OAD high school kid comes down to whether you view him as (1) the key cog to carry your team vs (2) a piece that can be nicely productive and relatively efficient due to both his still developing talent and not having to carry the load? I think once you answer that question you know whether recruiting the Top 5 guys is the most important part of your recruiting or just ancillary (if that).
 
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To me, the true portal superstars are the guys who were overlooked out of HS, turned out to be studs at a smaller school, showed out on the big stage in the NCAAT, and are now in the portal ready to make an impact.

Other than that, it's guys like Hunter Dickinson (even though he's a clown) ...
 
I think it’s a matter of perception.

Ppl unfortunately are expecting “portal superstar” to be obvious.

However, Oweh and Butler were portal superstars in hindsight and nobody would have claimed superstar status when they signed.

So…was Pope referencing the latter or the former? Thats where the perception of the statement comes in.
No offense, but this is more Gas Lighting! Fact remains 2 cycles in, and Pope has not hauled in a single Top 5-10 freshman or portal stud, when every other powerhouse/ Blue Blood has!

Until further notice, this simple solitary fact, will remain!
 
Most of these Pope has contacted are superstars on their current team, I'm sure he thinks they can be really good in his system. All of them have good statistics and are on most of the top teams lists. after seeing what Pope was able to do in the time he had, I trust that him and the staff will get the players we need to compete for a title.
 
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No offense, but this is more Gas Lighting! Fact remains 2 cycles in, and Pope has not hauled in a single Top 5-10 freshman or portal stud, when every other powerhouse/ Blue Blood has!

Until further notice, this simple solitary fact, will remain!
That second sentence is the key one one to go off, especially one 3 word sequence. “ 2 cycles in” he has barley been at Kentucky, this is stuff people nitpick about in years 3 or 4
 
No offense, but this is more Gas Lighting! Fact remains 2 cycles in, and Pope has not hauled in a single Top 5-10 freshman or portal stud, when every other powerhouse/ Blue Blood has!

Until further notice, this simple solitary fact, will remain!
The top five players from this past recruiting cycle, went to Duke(1), Baylor(1), Rutgers(2), and Texas(1).

You have no facts that's literally wrong
 
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Wonder if we will get involved with this guy?

3. QUIMARI PETERSON, ETSU​

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(Photo: Courtesy of East Tennessee State, 247Sports)
2024-25 Stats: MIN: 34.5 | PTS: 19.5 | REB 4.5 | ASST 3.7 | FG 46.8% | 3FG 42.2% (6.4 ATT)
Overall Portal Ranking: No. 25
Peterson earned SoCon Player of the Year honors this season and enters the portal as a grad transfer. The biggest strength of the 6-foot-1, 175-pound lead guard is his ability to drill shots from three, both off the catch and pull, shooting 42.2% from behind the arc on 6.4 attempts per game. Peterson also has active hands on defense, averaging a career-high 2.0 steals per game in 2024-25.
imo, this is the type of guards that are needed
quick, shifty and can score
this type has seemingly been ignored by UK, but then when they are the opponent, UK has no one to stop them
Auburn seems to always have this type of guard that comes out of nowhere and is a problem to handle
 
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I think it’s a matter of perception.

Ppl unfortunately are expecting “portal superstar” to be obvious.

However, Oweh and Butler were portal superstars in hindsight and nobody would have claimed superstar status when they signed.

So…was Pope referencing the latter or the former? Thats where the perception of the statement comes in.
yes, they were very good, but a superstar is Cooper Flagg, someone that dominates games
much easier for him as Duke has a very talented group
 
No offense, but this is more Gas Lighting! Fact remains 2 cycles in, and Pope has not hauled in a single Top 5-10 freshman or portal stud, when every other powerhouse/ Blue Blood has!

Until further notice, this simple solitary fact, will remain!
The fact remains if you are calling last year a recruiting "cycle" when every top 5-10 kid had already committed when Pope got the job then you apparently have an agenda. I personally think this year is even iffy on what you could include as a cycle since most of these kids go based on connections already made but I could also still see that they had a year to make up ground. However, to even call last year a cycle is a joke and shows you are just nitpicking.
 
You continue to prove your ignorance in all of this. I don't have the numbers and neither do you, but lets suppose the reports of Dent getting somewhere around 3 million are real and UK and UCLA both offered around that. He clearly wanted to be at UCLA as that is where he is from and his announcement was he was "Coming Home". Do you expect Pope to offer way over what he's worth when there are similar players out there?
the only thing that I will disagree with you about is, that there are no players in the portal similar to Dent. He was/is much better than anyone else entered at this time
 
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the only thing that I will disagree with you about is, that there are no players in the portal similar to Dent. He was/is much better than anyone else entered at this time
We will just have to agree to disagree. While I prefer Dent, I think Demary and Thomas are both in the same tier.
 
No offense, but this is more Gas Lighting! Fact remains 2 cycles in, and Pope has not hauled in a single Top 5-10 freshman or portal stud, when every other powerhouse/ Blue Blood has!

Until further notice, this simple solitary fact, will remain!
Yeah that isn’t the definition of gaslighting. I’m not saying the statement didn’t happen, or people shouldn’t have the opposing perception/definition of superstar to invalidate their opinion. Just stated that both things can be accurate. Providing an opposing take or context for consideration while saying the initial view is valid isn’t gaslighting, it’s discussion.

By your definition of how you are defining “portal superstar” you are 100% correct.

If Oweh entered the portal this season he’d more than likely be top 5 and whoever landed him would have gotten a “portal superstar”…that’s also a fact.

We have already seen Pope speaks in overly positive hyperbole. It isn’t beyond reason that his statement may have been from his point of view that we got some “superstars” last season from the portal and we will again.

I don’t disagree at all that we need to start landing some incoming top 10s portal/recruits to go along with the diamond in the rough/developed into stars, largely because you can’t consistently depend on guys taking massive leaps above what potential they’d shown to that point. We are a top 5 program, need to start recruiting/spending like one.
 
Not even "1 cycle in" much less 2. Was Pope still at BYU this time last year, or was that all just a big conSPIRacy theory?

Coach hasn't had his feet in the bluegrass a full year and people are calling it 2 already. Fkn psychotic
 
I get that to when Cal was here stuff recruits said that crap all the time. I figured it would be different now that Pope was coach. We honestly needed Dent and Pope didn't close. Hopefully we can get a great PG out of the portal to replace Butler. I’m a big fan of Lewis but he’s only a freshman and we all see that experience is what you need nowadays unless you’re a transcendent player!
Last year the same was said about Greg O and Pope ended up finding a more productive player. Give him time.
 
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Could not beat UCLA for Dent even though we are suppose to have all the money we need. What happened to Elijah Freeman? We have the money for a guy like that don't we? Wilkerson is wanting to leave and with plenty of money for this can't miss guy why the talk of ARK if we have plenty of money? We are certainly spending plenty of time on a lot of non superstars. I thought we would get our superstars first and build around them?
Wilkerson is from Ark.
 
If guys are leaving those schools it's because they couldn't make it there. Why would we want them or think they could make it at UK?
Not necessarily.

See Mitchell (Mizzou), Brakefield (Ole Miss), and Coleman (Miss St.).

All started at Duke and played well in the SEC. Especially Mitchell.
 
Last year the same was said about Greg O and Pope ended up finding a more productive player. Give him time.
I understand time but if there is a portal stud you take them now instead of letting him go somewhere else. I mean they’re going to cost some $ and sometimes you got to spend the $ to get them. I’d rather they come here instead of going to another SEC school. If we want to be on the same level as the final four teams we have to upgrade our roster simple as that….
 
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