Portal PG's comparison

[JonathanW]

Can't compare their defense statistically, and to me that may be the most important trait for that position.
But still:

Name (Yrs remain) school, Ht Wt, Pt, Reb, Ast, TO, Stl+Blk (Stocks), FG%, 3pt% 3pt/gm, FT%
Dent (1) NM, 6'2 185, 20.4, 2.3, 6.4, 3.1, 1.4+0.9 (2.3), 49.0%, 40.9% 0.9, 78.4%
Agbim (1) Wyoming, 6'3 180, 17.6, 3.2, 3.4, 2.2, 1.1+0.3 (1.4), 46.9%, 43.7% 2.8, 78.5% (listed as SG though, and committed to Baylor)
Peterson (1) ETSU, 6'1 190, 19.5, 4.5, 3.7, 2.2, 2.0+0.2 (2.2), 46.8%, 42.2% 2.7, 73.3%
Thomas (2) UNLV, 6'1 185, 15.6, 2.0, 4.7, 1.9, 0.7+0.1 (0.8), 41.3%, 35.3% 0.9, 72.1%

Not yet in portal, but could go in:
Thorton (1) Ohio St, 6'2 215, 17.7, 3.4, 4.6, 1.5, 1.1+0.1 (1.2), 50.1%, 42.4% 1.8, 85.3%
Smith (1) Purdue, 6'0 175, 16.0, 4.5, 8.5, 3.0, 2.2+0.2 (2.4), 43.0%, 38.5% 2.3, 83.0%
Fears (2) Mich. St, 6'2, 190, 7.4, 2.1, 5.4, 2.0, 1.1+0.2 (1.3), 40.6%, 36.1% 0.4, 74.3%
Odum (1) Pepperdine, 6'1 160, 13.1, 3.2, 7.5, 2.6, 1.2+0.0 (1.2), 45.2%, 37.9% 1.7, 79.3%
Smith (1) Dayton, 6'0 175, 10.4, 2.9, 5.3, 2.1, 1.0+0.0 (1.0), 42.4%, 38.3% 0.9, 71.7%

(Stirtz has already committed to follow his coach to Iowa)

 

[UKSanders]

Agbim's explosive ability makes me think he SHOULD be a great defender... if he isn't, it certainly isn't due to lack of athleticism.

 

[cornbreadnmilk]

Thomas seems the one Pope is going after.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Thomas or smith seem to be the 2

 

[G-PIP]

I think Agbim has already committed (Baylor?). Also, I don't love the lower FG% with some of these guys.

 

[jace2012]

Surprised that Duke isn’t being thrown in the around with Smith, since everyone seems to think he will be the top point guard once he’s in the portal

 

[ukpence]

Duke has been mentioned with Dent.

 

[TOMCATS1990]

Duke spending $$$ on Freshman.

 

[JonathanW]

I think Agbim has already committed (Baylor?). Also, I don't love the lower FG% with some of these guys.

That's my concern with Thomas.
Although he is a year younger, so probably further from his ceiling.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Hope this is just a feeler from Kentucky

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Duke has been mentioned with Dent.

Who all has been mentioned?

 

[bnewt]

Thomas or smith seem to be the 2

Smith's NIL with Purdue is 1.9 million.......they can keep him

hoped UK would get involved with Dent, but I think his price tag is going to be high

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

Can't compare their defense statistically, and to me that may be the most important trait for that position.
But still:

Name (Yrs remain) school, Ht Wt, Pt, Reb, Ast, TO, Stl+Blk (Stocks), FG%, 3pt% 3pt/gm, FT%
Dent (1) NM, 6'2 185, 20.4, 2.3, 6.4, 3.1, 1.4+0.9 (2.3), 49.0%, 40.9% 0.9, 78.4%
Agbim (1) Wyoming, 6'3 180, 17.6, 3.2, 3.4, 2.2, 1.1+0.3 (1.4), 46.9%, 43.7% 2.8, 78.5% (listed as SG though)
Peterson (1) ETSU, 6'1 190, 19.5, 4.5, 3.7, 2.2, 2.0+0.2 (2.2), 46.8%, 42.2% 2.7, 73.3%
Thomas (2) UNLV, 6'1 185, 15.6, 2.0, 4.7, 1.9, 0.7+0.1 (0.8), 41.3%, 35.3% 0.9, 72.1%

Not yet in portal, but could go in:
Thorton (1) Ohio St, 6'2 215, 17.7, 3.4, 4.6, 1.5, 1.1+0.1 (1.2), 50.1%, 42.4% 1.8, 85.3%
Smith (1) Purdue, 6'0 175, 16.0, 4.5, 8.5, 3.0, 2.2+0.2 (2.4), 43.0%, 38.5% 2.3, 83.0%
Fears (2) Mich. St, 6'2, 190, 7.4, 2.1, 5.4, 2.0, 1.1+0.2 (1.3), 40.6%, 36.1% 0.4, 74.3%
Odum (1) Pepperdine, 6'1 160, 13.1, 3.2, 7.5, 2.6, 1.2+0.0 (1.2), 45.2%, 37.9% 1.7, 79.3%
Smith (1) Dayton, 6'0 175, 10.4, 2.9, 5.3, 2.1, 1.0+0.0 (1.0), 42.4%, 38.3% 0.9, 71.7%

(Stirtz has already committed to follow his coach to Iowa)

Speed also to consider as Dent is said to be one of the very fastest players in the land with the ball in his hands.

 

[The_Catfather]

Posted this in another thread but Dedan Thomas' catch and shoot metrics are elite and that's something Pope and his staff really hone in on. So his overall 3-point percentage is a little skewed.

 

[bnewt]

has any one watched Thomas play? Can he create his own shot and shots for others?

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Smith's NIL with Purdue is 1.9 million.......they can keep him

hoped UK would get involved with Dent, but I think his price tag is going to be high

Where did you see this at? I would pay that for Braden smith. Absolutely I would.

 

[bnewt]

read it somewhere on line that was giving NIL for various players

 

[Justwantadecentteam]

1-Dent 2-Smith 3-Thomas

 

[cats#1again]

I think Agbim has already committed (Baylor?). Also, I don't love the lower FG% with some of these guys.

Majority of the shots they are taking are from three. Mid to low 40% for a pg fg isn't bad really.
As we've seen with Butler. You need a strong leader that can shoot when needed. I don't want my pg being the top scoring option

 

[G-PIP]

Majority of the shots they are taking are from three. Mid to low 40% for a pg fg isn't bad really.
As we've seen with Butler. You need a strong leader that can shoot when needed. I don't want my pg being the top scoring option

Sure, I can agree with wanting a strong leader, etc. But I can't agree with low 40% FG% being nothing to worry about. That portends an underlying issue, which may be poor shot selection, inability to finish, etc. And while a player taking a high amount of his shots from 3pt. range will tend to pull down overall FG% some, I don't think that's a sufficient excuse. On the other hand, a professional coach/coaching staff actually seeing and analyzing a player can trump statistics. So, if Pope & the guys like a player that's good enough for me to put my concerns aside.

 

[catsfanbgky]

Majority of the shots they are taking are from three. Mid to low 40% for a pg fg isn't bad really.
As we've seen with Butler. You need a strong leader that can shoot when needed. I don't want my pg being the top scoring option

They have separate shooting %s for 2s and 3s. At least Sports Reference the site I use does. It shows the # of 2s taken and made, # of 3s taken and made, # of ft's taken and made. Also have a average taken and made per game for all 3. The site is analytics persons dream. Advance stats galore. Sportsreference.com. I just google players name stats, then find sports reference and go to reading. Stathead is really cool feature they have.

 

[bucsrule8872]

Dent sounds doubtful. He’ll likely follow Pitino to Nova.

 

[bucsrule8872]

Where did you see this at? I would pay that for Braden smith. Absolutely I would.

If you are willing to pay an unproven Freshman over a million dollars (as it is rumored we did with Johnson), you definitely spend that on Smith. Smith has proven he can lead a team on a deep run in the tourney.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Dent with the kiss of death quote lol

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

If you are willing to pay an unproven Freshman over a million dollars (as it is rumored we did with Johnson), you definitely spend that on Smith. Smith has proven he can lead a team on a deep run in the tourney.

I’d give smith that before I’d give ament that every day of the week

 

[bucsrule8872]

I’d give smith that before I’d give ament that every day of the week

Amen.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

dent wants to commit in a week apparently

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

I like this guy better than Thomas

 

[Digger-Cat]

Dent and Agbim paired with Oweh, Chandler and Perry… .yes please.

Pope must really want Dent if he contacted him personally. Sounds like it was more than just a feeler call.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Dent and Agbim paired with Oweh, Chandler and Perry… .yes please.

Pope must really want Dent if he contacted him personally. Sounds like it was more than just a feeler call.

Agbim isn’t happening, we don’t seem to be interested

 

[bigbluedon]

Agbim's explosive ability makes me think he SHOULD be a great defender... if he isn't, it certainly isn't due to lack of athleticism.

Would love to get him. Very quick with the ball.

 

[bigbluedon]

Dent sounds doubtful. He’ll likely follow Pitino to Nova.

Pitino going to Xavier, not Nova.

 

[cats#1again]

They have separate shooting %s for 2s and 3s. At least Sports Reference the site I use does. It shows the # of 2s taken and made, # of 3s taken and made, # of ft's taken and made. Also have a average taken and made per game for all 3. The site is analytics persons dream. Advance stats galore. Sportsreference.com. I just google players name stats, then find sports reference and go to reading. Stathead is really cool feature they have.

I'm aware they have separate categories to show how many 3's are taken but overall percentage is both 2 point fg and 3 point fg

 

[Fox2monk]

Pitino going to Xavier, not Nova.

That story he referenced was from a fake account, that account has gotten a couple posters on the board this week.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Smith's NIL with Purdue is 1.9 million.......they can keep him

hoped UK would get involved with Dent, but I think his price tag is going to be high

They can definitely keep him. Hes mostly a hustle and guts player, which is fine, but he wont cut it vs the sec elite. Definitely not at that price.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

They can definitely keep him. Hes mostly a hustle and guts player, which is fine, but he wont cut it vs the sec elite. Definitely not at that price.

The big ten player of the year won’t cut it in the SEC?

 

[bigblueinsanity]

The big ten player of the year won’t cut it in the SEC?

Correct. Being scrappy is nice but no it will not cut it over the long haul. Not if we want to be elite.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

The big ten player of the year won’t cut it in the SEC?

Correct. Being scrappy is nice but no it will not cut it over the long haul. Not if we want to be elite.

He isnt even the best player on his team. Their big is 10x the player.

 

[kywildcat41035]

Where did you see this at? I would pay that for Braden smith. Absolutely I would.

I don't get it in todays game in order to have those type of WINNING players we might have to spend a little bit of money to get those type of guys. I hate it just like the rest of the older generation but it is what it is now! Dude has been to the Championship game just like Butler and Purdue is still in it this year.

 

[bnewt]

dent wants to commit in a week apparently

where did you see that?
If true, would seem to leave UK out of the picture