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Poll: Does BiG Z play for Kentucky this year

Does Ivisic play this year

  • Yes

    Votes: 53 25.5%
  • No

    Votes: 120 57.7%
  • Screw the admissions office

    Votes: 35 16.8%

  • Total voters
    208
I don’t think he should play. We’re the University of Kentucky - and we have standards. Obviously a lot of you aren’t alumni like me that don’t care about your degree being tarnished.
I salute you being an alumnus of UK. But being admitted and getting a degree are two totally different things.
Also a college degree doesn’t hold the value it once did IMO. You can get degrees now in so many stupid things it’s laughable.
 
I don’t think he should play. We’re the University of Kentucky - and we have standards. Obviously a lot of you aren’t alumni like me that don’t care about your degree being tarnished.
I don't agree with this take at all.

If Duke or UNC lets him in, do you feel that your UK degree is suddenly so much more valuable than a Duke or UNC degree?

I think they're both considered better academic institutions. But let's say they're all equal. Do you REALLY feel the value of a Duke degree is lessened because they let a basketball player in who failed an english exam?

UK graduates a lot of doctors and lawyers. Do you think the medical world is going to stop and re-evaluate those doctors because of this situation? Do you think the legal world is going to re-evaluate the laywers?

Your degree isn't affected by this.
 
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I hope it works out and the BBN gets some good news, because the last 3 years have sucked.
 
Since it is taking so long I have to think the chances he plays for UK are dwindling. If I was Z I would have to be looking at other schools this close to college start ups. Hate to lose out on him but difficult to be confident with UK dragging their feet so slowly.
 
I don’t think he should play. We’re the University of Kentucky - and we have standards. Obviously a lot of you aren’t alumni like me that don’t care about your degree being tarnished.
I have two degrees from UK and disagree with you. It is obvious that Z has no problem with English so I'm not sure why UK admissions does, if this is, in fact, the true hold up we've been told.
 
I don’t think he should play. We’re the University of Kentucky - and we have standards. Obviously a lot of you aren’t alumni like me that don’t care about your degree being tarnished.
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You know I was ready to crack my knuckles and sit down and start a show for all to enjoy but the responses were so respectful that it took away all the fun 🙄
Ignorance is bliss. Or so they say. So much so that I felt comfortable congratulating you in the open, knowing I wouldn't spoil it.
 
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I think he will. I just cannot come to terms with UK fumbling this away. This isn't on Cal, it is on the University.
No, it is on Cal. Cal offered the scholarship. Cal is the coach of the program. It is Cal's responsibility to do due diligence before offering. It's just something he philosophically doesn't like. Working with the athletics department as a member of a greater administrative team is beneath Cal.

But let's straighten out this misunderstood point, because Cal IS responsible for the scholarship offers he gives out. Picking up the phone to talk with the athletics department and the admissions office BEFORE making the offer is the smart thing to do. By failing to do it, Cal puts the reputation and integrity of the school needlessly at risk with you and others who think like you think, but this was easily preventable. Many get upset when other schools change or bypass their own rules to preserve an athlete's eligibility, but now you want UK to do it.
 
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I salute you being an alumnus of UK. But being admitted and getting a degree are two totally different things.
Also a college degree doesn’t hold the value it once did IMO. You can get degrees now in so many stupid things it’s laughable.

Duke will take him and they are 100 times the academic institution UK is.

I don't agree with this take at all.

If Duke or UNC lets him in, do you feel that your UK degree is suddenly so much more valuable than a Duke or UNC degree?

I think they're both considered better academic institutions. But let's say they're all equal. Do you REALLY feel the value of a Duke degree is lessened because they let a basketball player in who failed an english exam?

UK graduates a lot of doctors and lawyers. Do you think the medical world is going to stop and re-evaluate those doctors because of this situation? Do you think the legal world is going to re-evaluate the laywers?

Your degree isn't affected by this.
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No, it is on Cal. Cal offered the scholarship. Cal is the coach of the program. It is Cal's responsibility to do due diligence before offering. It's just something he philosophically doesn't like. Working with the athletics department as a member of a greater administrative team is beneath Cal.

But let's straighten out this misunderstood point, because Cal IS responsible for the scholarship offers he gives out. Picking up the phone to talk with the athletics department and the admissions office BEFORE making the offer is the smart thing to do. By failing to do it, Cal puts the reputation and integrity of the school needlessly at risk with you and others who think like you think, but this was easily preventable. Many get upset when other schools change or bypass their own rules to preserve an athlete's eligibility, but now you want UK to do it.

Lol, good try man. You and others who think like you just have blind hate for Cal.

This kid has dyslexia. He speaks four languages, including English. If he isn't passing a reading test for his non-native language, I am sure his disability is part of the reason.

UK's reputation will suffer should they not accept a kid into school who has a disability but is otherwise a fine student by all accounts. In fact, they could likely help the kid by tutoring him....that is what education is.

You are dead wrong on this.
 
I salute you being an alumnus of UK. But being admitted and getting a degree are two totally different things.
Also a college degree doesn’t hold the value it once did IMO. You can get degrees now in so many stupid things it’s laughable.
It's not getting degrees in so many things that is the problem. The first part of what you said about that is the problem. If you actually had to do real work to get a degree, as in demonstrating a real, working knowledge of whatever field your degree was in, the value would still be there.
 
No, it is on Cal. Cal offered the scholarship. Cal is the coach of the program. It is Cal's responsibility to do due diligence before offering. It's just something he philosophically doesn't like. Working with the athletics department as a member of a greater administrative team is beneath Cal.

But let's straighten out this misunderstood point, because Cal IS responsible for the scholarship offers he gives out. Picking up the phone to talk with the athletics department and the admissions office BEFORE making the offer is the smart thing to do. By failing to do it, Cal puts the reputation and integrity of the school needlessly at risk with you and others who think like you think, but this was easily preventable. Many get upset when other schools change or bypass their own rules to preserve an athlete's eligibility, but now you want UK to do it.
In my opinion, you are one the the few posters on this board I fully respect and love to read your well thought out posts; however, if this went down like we’ve read I have to disagree. His ability to speak English is fine and there is no way Cal, or the admissions dept could have predicted whether or not he would pass this stupid test. Also, if he does have a dyslexia, additional support should have been provided as with any other student with a learning disability. My youngest son and I visited UK 3 years ago. He is slightly adhd, and the tour guide went on and on about the resources UK has to help people.
 
No, it is on Cal. Cal offered the scholarship. Cal is the coach of the program. It is Cal's responsibility to do due diligence before offering. It's just something he philosophically doesn't like. Working with the athletics department as a member of a greater administrative team is beneath Cal.

But let's straighten out this misunderstood point, because Cal IS responsible for the scholarship offers he gives out. Picking up the phone to talk with the athletics department and the admissions office BEFORE making the offer is the smart thing to do. By failing to do it, Cal puts the reputation and integrity of the school needlessly at risk with you and others who think like you think, but this was easily preventable. Many get upset when other schools change or bypass their own rules to preserve an athlete's eligibility, but now you want UK to do it.
Because by all accounts, he's a solid student. And don't act like exceptions aren't made by UK. Because they are. I know of one for sure. Others have posted there that are alums and are pointing how stupid this all is by their own experiences. UK Is wrong here.
 
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The way the last few years have gone, I’m getting skeptical he plays at UK. I would have to imagine they would need this sorted out today, since classes have been in session for a couple weeks. It seems UK is dragging this along and then will just say it’s too late to enroll him in fall courses.
 
Yeah I think it’s over and he doesn’t play here, Kentucky screwed up this situation so bad. How Gonzaga and ucla and Arizona can get multiple international players onto their rosters, but Kentucky can’t is crazy
 
I doubt you see many international players lining up to play for UK after the Kanter fiasco (not UK's fault), and now this dumpster fire (likely UK's fault). Even if everything aligns and Ivisic is admitted, rivals will have a good argument against a potential uphill battle with UK admissions. This has been a total clown show.
 
The admissions dept acts like we're still 6 months removed from the Kentucky Shame era. Is it possible some people still work there now that worked there then?

Modern, major college athletics is a farce, a ruse. Has been for decades now. NIL was inevitable because that student athlete lie couldn't survive scrutiny forever. And, as has been said, this ain't Harvard. There's no good reason this kid shouldn't play here.
 
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We have a kid that wants to play for Kentucky and the admissions department won't let him.
2 years ago we had a kid that enrolled at Kentucky for 1 semester and his posse wouldn't let him play but he was a great warmup player before games. What a damn joke this situation is.
 
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