
Perspective for Jayden Quaintance's return from ACL surgery
Incoming Kentucky transfer Jayden Quaintance tore his ACL in February and had surgery to repair it in April. When could he suit up for UK?
Get well soon Big Guy
My questions is If he tore it in February, why did it take over a month to have surgery on it?![]()
Perspective for Jayden Quaintance's return from ACL surgery
Incoming Kentucky transfer Jayden Quaintance tore his ACL in February and had surgery to repair it in April. When could he suit up for UK?www.on3.com
Get well soon Big Guy
You often have to wait for swelling to go down before you can schedule it and I’m sure they saw a couple different doctors first to get multiple opinions as well.My questions is If he tore it in February, why did it take over a month to have surgery on it?
Derek Anderson tore his ACL in January 1997 & I believe the doctors told the UK coaches that Anderson was good to get back in game action in March. Pitino was afraid to take a chance with Anderson reinjuring it so he refused to play him. Pitino did put him in the Final Four game against Minnesota to shoot 2 technical free throws which he made...... So there's a good chance that Quaintance gets back earlier than some might think.When you are young and with all the science currently out on injury this used to be career ending (especially in football)... Now the average time back is 8-10 months from what I have read.
Good thing is we have a ton of front court depth now so he can take his time. I would rather have him close to 100% in January for the Conference run into March rather than rush him back.That KSR article is a good and balanced article.
All we can do is hope the kid heals as he should, and on time.
My son had surgery about 3 weeks after his injury. Part of that delay was not knowing the extent of the injury due to waiting to get an MRI done. Also, the local orthopedic doctor refused to do surgery because of the extent of the damage so he referred him to the top orthopedic surgeon that routinely does repairs on athletes to give my son a chance to play again. Sometimes you just have to wait for the best surgeon to be able to get to you. That could be the case with JQ, because I hope he got the best surgeon possible. Who does your surgery makes a HUGE difference in your recovery and if you're ever going to play ball again.My questions is If he tore it in February, why did it take over a month to have surgery on it?
Anderson's injury happend at a time that they were experimenting with accelerated rehab protocols, which was abandoned pretty quickly. He also had a cadaver graft which was a component in his time frame. Those are still done but not usually with elite athletes. The timeframes are subject to human physiology and rushing things usually isnt a great attitude to haveDerek Anderson tore his ACL in January 1997 & I believe the doctors told the UK coaches that Anderson was good to get back in game action in March. Pitino was afraid to take a chance with Anderson reinjuring it so he refused to play him. Pitino did put him in the Final Four game against Minnesota to shoot 2 technical free throws which he made...... So there's a good chance that Quaintance gets back earlier than some might think.
And this comment in the article “Some athletes have returned to sport in as little as six months, but those were simple tears. No one has confirmed Jayden Quaintance’s tear to be of the simple variety, and any whispers claiming this to be the case are more than likely the result of wishful thinking.”You often have to wait for swelling to go down before you can schedule it and I’m sure they saw a couple different doctors first to get multiple opinions as well.
Other than no one knows the degree. I feel like every month extra he gets the healthier he will be for a run. I wouldn’t sit too long but the cupcake game around the UL time will be a good time to get him on the court for a conference runTo me that says probably Jan. With hope for Dec.
That's probably what Pope sold Garrison on to keep him here. He's going to be a vital piece, Especially early if JQ isn't ready.Good thing is we have a ton of front court depth now so he can take his time. I would rather have him close to 100% in January for the Conference run into March rather than rush him back.
I couldve sworn I read JQ’s dad said it was a partial tear. If you watch the actual injury it didnt look nearly as bad as some do. He stayed on the bench the rest of the game.And this comment in the article “Some athletes have returned to sport in as little as six months, but those were simple tears. No one has confirmed Jayden Quaintance’s tear to be of the simple variety, and any whispers claiming this to be the case are more than likely the result of wishful thinking.”
I don’t think any thinking is wishful on this. If he says he will be back in September that is either wishful thinking on JQs part that’s why I believe it to be a partial tear. No way would he be so optimistic on timeline. It’s not speculation it’s just going with what Jayden’s dad has stated.
What I hate to see is kids who recover from these surgeries out playing with no kind of brace or support, especially early after that kind of injury. Hopefully if he does come back early like we hope, he at least wears something to give it some stability.The biggest issue is time for the graft to grow/heal together. In the meantime, light mobility therapy, progressing to light exercising and weight bearing, then strength building exercises. In my case, the most recent knee surgery, was complete acl replacement with a cadaver ligament. Once the graft is secure, by growing back together, most of the rest becomes physical rehab and building back muscle that it what supports our joints. Biggest concern is during the time for the bone to grow back together and securing the new ligament. There are things that can be done to speed that process a bit regarding blood flow etc that promote bone healing.
I'm not a doctor. But I can play one on the innerweb.Other than no one knows the degree. I feel like every month extra he gets the healthier he will be for a run. I wouldn’t sit too long but the cupcake game around the UL time will be a good time to get him on the court for a conference run
Im just going off the projected time frame evidently his dr gave him for contact. Ideally based on that being conservative expect 3 months more since these recoveries can be unpredictableI'm not a doctor. But I can play one on the innerweb.
Be prepared for a few to scour the internet and find about fives cases that “prove” you wrong.To me that says probably Jan. With hope for Dec.
I hope I am wrong. I would love for him to participate in practice starting with midnight madness.Be prepared for a few to scour the internet and find about fives cases that “prove” you wrong.
Probably swellingMy questions is If he tore it in February, why did it take over a month to have surgery on it?
Better to perform the surgery after swellingMy questions is If he tore it in February, why did it take over a month to have surgery on it?
If he had ACL reconstruction it wouldnt matter if it was partial or complete tear as they resect the whole thing and use a graft. I will say that an athletic activity that has enough velocity to tear an acl almost always results in a complete tear from my experience. Again 6 months would be really optimistic and not optimal for long term joint health and stabilityAnd this comment in the article “Some athletes have returned to sport in as little as six months, but those were simple tears. No one has confirmed Jayden Quaintance’s tear to be of the simple variety, and any whispers claiming this to be the case are more than likely the result of wishful thinking.”
I don’t think any thinking is wishful on this. If he says he will be back in September that is either wishful thinking on JQs part that’s why I believe it to be a partial tear. No way would he be so optimistic on timeline. It’s not speculation it’s just going with what Jayden’s dad has stated.
My son had a complete ACL replacement except they used part of his patella ligament, which required a little strengthening rehab before the surgery to help with his remaining patella ligament. Since he had to sit out basketball too he has lifted weights like crazy this winter and has gotten as strong as a bull.The biggest issue is time for the graft to grow/heal together. In the meantime, light mobility therapy, progressing to light exercising and weight bearing, then strength building exercises. In my case, the most recent knee surgery, was complete acl replacement with a cadaver ligament. Once the graft is secure, by growing back together, most of the rest becomes physical rehab and building back muscle that it what supports our joints. Biggest concern is during the time for the bone to grow back together and securing the new ligament. There are things that can be done to speed that process a bit regarding blood flow etc that promote bone healing.
The doctors made a couple if braces specifically for my son. The first one was really big and restrictive. It had locking hinges to help with support. As he progressed the next brace was made for him to use while playing. He's supposed to only wear it through the summer for 7 on 7 scrimmages in football and for summer basketball but he plans to keep wearing it at least through next football season.What I hate to see is kids who recover from these surgeries out playing with no kind of brace or support, especially early after that kind of injury. Hopefully if he does come back early like we hope, he at least wears something to give it some stability.
I am having a hard time looking at that avatar fox I liked the other one betterGood thing is we have a ton of front court depth now so he can take his time. I would rather have him close to 100% in January for the Conference run into March rather than rush him back.
Nothing really wrong with a brace but muscle is your brace, once built back. It's how we were built and an athlete, even more so. In my case, it was a cadaver patella tendon used to replace my acl. Based on my own recovery experience from both partial and complete tears, I wouldn't even consider anything other than complete acl replacement...but I'm not a dr. But, my doc did tell me my options and that the cadver patella replacement was significantly stronger, once fully healed, than my acl ever was. He stated percentages but I don't recall for sure...seems like 160% stronger than OE. I asked if I'd be able to jump higher afterward but we won't go any further than that...Lol! But seriously, assuming the graft and replacement fully heals, the new acl "should" be able to take more strain, being stronger than oe. I can see a value there with a true athlete. Therapy is by far the most important aspect but things like blood circulation to the repair are factors in how soon it will heal. Bottom line, I've been through three pretty serious knee surgeries over a wide span of time that saw vast changes and improvement in acl surgeries. It is vastly better that it was in the 90's, when orthoscopic was in its infancy stage. I'm not as worried as a lot on here seem to be.What I hate to see is kids who recover from these surgeries out playing with no kind of brace or support, especially early after that kind of injury. Hopefully if he does come back early like we hope, he at least wears something to give it some stability.
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Yeah, my son did therapy the next day before we drove back home to Kentucky. He started therapy 3x/week immediately.Nothing really wrong with a brace but muscle is your brace, once built back. It's how we were built and an athlete, even more so. In my case, it was a cadaver patella tendon used to replace my acl. Based on my own recovery experience from both partial and complete tears, I wouldn't even consider anything other than complete acl replacement...but I'm not a dr. But, my doc did tell me my options and that the cadver patella replacement was significantly stronger, once fully healed, than my acl ever was. He stated percentages but I don't recall for sure...seems like 160% stronger than OE. I asked if I'd be able to jump higher afterward but we won't go any further than that...Lol! But seriously, assuming the graft and replacement fully heals, the new acl "should" be able to take more strain, being stronger than oe. I can see a value there with a true athlete. Therapy is by far the most important aspect but things like blood circulation to the repair are factors in how soon it will heal. Bottom line, I've been through three pretty serious knee surgeries over a wide span of time that saw vast changes and improvement in acl surgeries. It is vastly better that it was in the 90's, when orthoscopic was in its infancy stage. I'm not as worried as a lot on here seem to be.
It takes time for the bone to heal. During that time. ya lose strength that supports the joint. And it takes time to build that strength back. That's why most sports drs have you moving the next day and starting light therapy, without delay.
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