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Just a disclaimer.....
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Alexander is ranked the 31st player in the nation by Rivals. That doesn't seem like a diamond in the rough.
And while an attempt at humor passes..to supplant a monotoned slight iteration of a wannabe JW..(I like Sergeant York and some of his other work but his total works are about as close a comparison as KAT to Jon Hood (No offense to Jon.) in the realm of film-"ography". Be Good M but wise-up (If you can...it would help a lot)
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Some of these posters truly can't be this stupid with some of their asinine posts.........
Don't talk about MoregasKY that way.
Yes, you're right. He's highly regarded, that is true. I guess I'm guilty of comparing him to some of top 10-20 guys we've had when I say "diamond in the rough." But you're right, it's not like he's a 3star guy without any acclaim.
How anyone can predict that a player of 4* talent or better could potentially be at UK for 4 years is ridiculous. We've had one in the Cal era and that was Willis. Miller stayed all 4 but he wasn't a Cal recruit. Hawkins was a 3*. Don't get your hopes up. I believe more than anyone that the recipe for winning titles is talented freshmen combined with upper classmen that can play. It's what we had in 2012, and it's what UNC just won it with. I am not convinced that Cal can create this kind of roster.
Agreed. Excellent post. Must have some guys stick around to give us balance and leadership. As I stated in an earlier post, I am not convinced Cal can achieve this. Ulis was supposed to be a 4 year guy....gone. Briscoe appeared to need 4 years.....gone. Booker, Humphries, etc etc......gone, gone, gone, gone. This just isn't a place for sticking around and I fear it's costing us.
You are now known from now on as the most negative poster on RR. Be proud you wear the crown.
I've seen him play. He doesn't have a great skill set plus he's not an elite athlete. Without one or the other I just don't think he will ever be a first round pick. If he really improves he might sneak into the end of the first round but a lot would have to improve.
% points scored in final game of 2012 and 2017 by class are quite the opposite:
UK/ 2012/ 67-points
Seniors-7.5%
Juniors-0%
Sophomores-46.3%
Freshmen-46.3%
1st and 2nd year players accounted for 62 out of 67 points scored (92.5%).
Juniors-0%
Sophomores-46.3%
Freshmen-46.3%
1st and 2nd year players accounted for 62 out of 67 points scored (92.5%).
UNC/ 2017/ 71-points
Seniors-31%
Juniors-62%
Sophomores-0%
Freshmen-7%
3rd and 4th year players accounted for 66 out of 71 points scored (93%).
Juniors-62%
Sophomores-0%
Freshmen-7%
3rd and 4th year players accounted for 66 out of 71 points scored (93%).
Ranked 31 in a year filled forwards and centers he would be 6 to 8 spots higher and a 5star. If we had the average number of elite bigs
Hi, welcome to Rupps Rafters, you must be new…oh jeez, sorry Cane, I should have looked first.
JK.
Why does it matter if either is a lottery pick or even a first rounder? These kids go no matter what.
And while an attempt at humor passes..to supplant a monotoned slight iteration of a wannabe JW..(I like Sergeant York and some of his other work but his total works are about as close a comparison as KAT to Jon Hood (No offense to Jon.) in the realm of film-"ography". Be Good M but wise-up (If you can...it would help a lot)
Gary Cooper has stronger cheek bones and JW had trouble remembering lines.
Probably the biggest difference in winning versus losing........
This may be true, more or less, but we should be cautious about prejudging Kentucky players. A player's Rivals ranking doesn't tell us how many years he needs to become an NBA draft choice. I remember some fans speculating that Marcus Lee would come out for the draft after his freshman season. I also remember some fans saying Bledsoe, Booker weren't ready for the draft as freshmen. Rivals ranks based on tools. Each player must work with our coaches and in the gym to improve. We don't know who will be ready for the draft until players have a chance to develop in Calipari's system. Calipari knows what he is doing, and he signs players who fit in his program. But all programs have overachievers and underachievers.
I love John Wayne. Just seems very funny that a dick like you is using his picture as your avatar. John Wayne was a mans man not meant for girly boys like you. Stick with your own kind.
On another note...if you had any comprehension at all you'd be begging my pardon. (Possibly you've never heard of Laverne and Shirley OR are too young.) It allows me though to ignore the source...maybe some of your peers in this thread will take the time to enlighten you...but I won't.
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the only film john wayne is good in is 'the shootist', mostly because you know he's going to die
'the searchers' is interminable and awful. oh john wayne plays an angry bloated racist what a stretch for him
'the searchers' is interminable and awful. oh john wayne plays an angry bloated racist what a stretch for him
He can't create this kind of roster? He did in 2012 like you said but I'm assuming you mean with all of his players that he recruited. If that's what you meant then I can understand that. I would argue that he did technically create that roster as well cause he brought in the most important pieces although Darius was a HUGE part of that championship.
I'd also argue that Calipari has made repeated attempts at creating this type of roster again since 2012, only to have it fall apart because of transfers or players playing beyond expectations and leaving for the draft. I think he's been a victim of his own success to an extent. He's the best in the business at developing quickly and he gets the best players in the country. So, in turn, these "lower" ranked kids that are recruited for stability within the program practice against the best everyday and several of them have played beyond what was expected then entered the draft. That's just the nature of the business now and it's become "The Kentucky Effect".
So, we haven't had much luck in recreating the type of roster we saw in 2012 but I don't think it's from lack of trying. Cal has always went after a couple "lower" ranked guys for stability but it just hasn't worked out yet. The whole mentality that you have to be a pro to come here has just gotten out of hand. I'm sure some of it is Cal's fault but I think the majority of it is a product of our success and particularly our success with young players. Cal's not perfect but contrary to what a lot people on here believe, I definitely think he has made an effort to stabilize the roster with some multi-year players. It's just backfired on him so far. I see him building a similar type roster in 2018 with the base of that team coming from the guys we got this year. If we get Bamba, I think we have 2 OADs in Vanderbilt and Bamba but that's it. I would love us to only sign 3 players in 2018. That would mean that we are getting a lot of players returning to our team form this year.
Lastly, I do agree with you that it's going to take a mixture of upper and under classman to win a title. Until it's done won with all freshman, I'm always going to believe that philosophy. With that said, I think Cal is definitely capable of recreating that type of roster. My personal opinion is that he's going to go after a few more of these 30-100 type players that will be here multiple years to add in with the elite OAD prospects. I think he knows he's getting towards of his career and he wants to be in the conversations with Williams, Coach K, and Rupp that have multiple titles to their name. The 30 for 30 showed me that he does really care about that sort of stuff. I hope I'm right cause there really hasn't been much that he hasn't done that he's wanted to do.
All of this kind of leads to really my only criticism of Cal. He hates going more than 7-8 deep. He's the greatest recruiter of all time. Use the kids you recruit if they can contribute. And I think more of them could than have been given the opportunity to show. I know Cal thinks playing the 5 stars early in the season major minutes even in blowouts is important from an experience standpoint. I personally don't think they gain much from playing in a blowout other than bad habits. Maybe if some of these other kids got more run they would feel like they had a future by sticking around.
SGA is a borderline 5* talent right now. He will likely play this year and hope he is around 2 or 3
