We're all just mad we could never dunk with two hands and the mortgage is due.
It's safe to say I didn't win the genetic lottery.
We're all just mad we could never dunk with two hands and the mortgage is due.
It's safe to say I didn't win the genetic lottery.
TJ doesn't have daddy to play for.T Jones should fire his agent if he can't get an NBA contract and Austin Rivers is getting 11 Million per year.
Not even close to one of the worst NBA contracts, though. He's 24 and coming off a year when he had a very solid PER of 17.35. And his Real +/- put him at 24th in the league, meaning he must be doing something right on D.Otto Porter is fixing to make $107 mil on a four year deal. For a guy who has averaged 9 and 4 for his career....must be nice.
Personally, I would like to see the concession workers, ticket takers, etc get more.If the money doesn't go to the players it would go to the already extremely wealthy owners.
A lot of the players put the money back into their communities. Lebron James is sending over 1000 kids to college with full scholarships.
As much as I dislike Austin Rivers he is at least a decent contributor. One of the more indefensible contracts I've seen recently was Solomon Hill. $50 million over 4 years. Career averages of 6pts 3reb 1ast
Ticket prices can be reduced, the cost of concessions can be reduced if you are worried about an owner making too much money. Then a family can enjoy the event together.I would imagine all of those people are fairly compensated for what they do, but even assuming they're not, think about what you're suggesting.
Go with the premise that anyone over 10 million a year is overpaid. Set the max contract at 10 million. That's at least 20 million gone from every team's max contract guy.
Then you have a handful of guys making in that 17-20 million range (conservatively), and if 10 million for LeBron is too much then we definitely can't pay every player on the roster the same amount, so leave anyone under 10 million alone, none of this extra money goes to them.
Let's conservatively say this creates an extra $50 million per year just to have an even, flat number. How many people does the team employ? Not the arena staff or anyone like that who is employed independently, just the team staff.
But if players are overpaid, surely the millions to be a coach and GM and those positions are overpaid too. So not counting them, let's really exaggerate and say a team employs 100 people.
You'd rather give them all a $500,000 a year bonus than pay the 12 guys who are already generating revenue and providing jobs for those people? LeBron James makes too much but the ticket guy should make over 500k? Why?
The problem is all of the stats only reference offensive numbers.
Most overpaid player on each team (minus a few).
Miles Plumlee
2017-18 salary: $12,500,000
2016-17 stats: 2.5 points, 2.1 rebounds
Al Horford
2017-18 salary: $27,734,405
2016-17 stats: 14.0 points, 6.8 rebounds, 5.0 assists
Timofey Mozgov
2017-18 salary: $15,280,000
2016-17 stats: 7.4 points, 4.9 rebounds
J.R. Smith
2017-18 salary: $13,760,000
2016-17 stats: 8.6 points, 2.8 rebounds
Wesley Matthews
2017-18 salary: $17,884,175
2016-17 stats: 13.5 points, 3.5 rebounds
Andre Iguodala
2017-18 salary: $14,814,815
2016-17 stats: 7.6 points, 4.0 rebounds, 3.4 assist
Ryan Anderson
2017-18 salary: $19,578,454
2016-17 stats: 13.6 points, 4.6 rebounds
Victor Oladipo
2017-18 salary: $21,000,000
2016-17 stats: 15.9 points, 4.3 rebounds
Austin Rivers
2017-18 salary: $11,825,000
2016-17 stats: 12.0 points, 2.8 assists
Luol Deng
2017-18 salary: $17,190,000
2016-17 stats: 7.6 points, 5.3 rebound
Chandler Parsons
2017-18 salary: $23,112,004
2016-17 stats: 6.2 points, 2.5 rebounds
Mirza Teletovic
2017-18 salary: $10,500,000
2016-17 stats: 6.4 points, 2.3 rebounds
Cole Aldrich
2017-18 salary: $7,300,000
2016-17 stats: 1.7 points, 2.5 rebounds I think I can average this for half as much.
Omer Asik
2017-18 salary: $10,595,505
2016-17 stats: 2.7 points, 5.3 rebounds
Joakim Noah
2017-18 salary: $17,765,000
2016-17 stats: 5.0 points, 8.8 rebounds
Enes Kanter
2017-18 salary: $17,884,175
2016-17 stats: 14.3 points, 6.7 rebounds
Bismack Biyombo
2017-18 salary: $17,000,000
2016-17 stats: 6.0 points, 7.0 rebounds
J.J. Redick
2017-18 salary: $23,000,000
2016-17 stats: 15.0 points, 2.2 rebounds
Brandon Knight
2017-18 salary: $13,618,750
2016-17 stats: 11.0 points, 2.4 assists
Evan Turner
2017-18 salary: $17,131,148
2016-17 stats: 9.0 points, 3.8 rebounds
Ian Mahinmi
2017-18 salary: $16,661,641
2016-17 stats: 5.6 points, 4.8 rebounds
I would rather see a teacher, policeman, doctor, fireman, social worker, EMS, soldier, seaman make the money over any athlete. It won't happen because we as Americans do not value their work nearly enough.These guys are paid unreal amounts of money compared to people doing cancer cure research or those who keep us safe by putting their lives on the line daily. Just seems weird what our values are. AND, I am a conservative who believes in capitalism so don't go there with me either. Not trying to stifle the free market, just trying to put things in perspective.
I had the link in there, but the list is not mine. It was CBS. It must have nixed when I copied it.GOOD JOB....Al Horford is an excellent player, but Celtics way over paid him. Hayword too . That a very good list.
They are all overpaid in my opinion, and I really never watch the NBA. But if they are willing to pay it, I would sure as hell take it.....
Why does it bother you how much money someone else makes?This is the kind of stuff that irks the "common man" about skyrocketing salaries.
If you say a Kobe and James, etc makes huge money, you get it...these numbers are the ones that make you sick
Why does it bother you how much money someone else makes?
It's a fairly direct inference from your prior statements.Did I say it made me?
Did I say I said it though...It's a fairly direct inference from your prior statements.
Did I inadvertently walk through a time warp into a Marc Maggard conversation?Did I say I said it though...
Did I inadvertently walk through a time warp into a Marc Maggard conversation?
Did I say I said it though...
Someone with your screen name said it irked people and made them sick and they did nothing to suggest they disagreed with these imaginary people.
You may want to email a mod.
Did I say I said it though...
Anyone making more than $10,000,000 to play a game is overpaid.
Reduce the costs and/or pay the employees (share it around employees).
I understand the feelings, I'm just saying there's no alternative. The money is there. People watch on tv and buy tickets and merchandise and all that. We can't just put it in a paper shredder, so I'd rather it go to the people who are the cause of all the popularity and money. If anything, I think they should get a bigger cut.
It's about rarity of talent. I'm a teacher. Most folks would argue my job is "more important" than some guy dribbling a basketball and it's absurd that he makes a zillion times more than I do. But his abilities are so much more rare than mine.
And there's a market audience for his talents. If people really cared that much, go personally hand a hundred bucks to your kid's teacher instead of paying for the deluxe sports package each month or buying the new pair of LeBrons or a 500th UK hoodie.
But we don't. And that's fine. Folks should spend their money as they please. They just gotta realize they're contributing to the problem.
I would rather see a teacher, policeman, doctor, fireman, social worker, EMS, soldier, seaman make the money over any athlete. It won't happen because we as Americans do not value their work nearly enough.
Working for society is not seen as important as entertainment.
None of those professions generates revenue. If they could sell out an arena for people to watch them work, they can make that much. The only one I think would be possible is the police. People would fill football stadiums to watch a cop shoot somebodyI would rather see a teacher, policeman, doctor, fireman, social worker, EMS, soldier, seaman make the money over any athlete. It won't happen because we as Americans do not value their work nearly enough.
Working for society is not seen as important as entertainment.
None of those professions generates revenue. If they could sell out an arena for people to watch them work, they can make that much. The only one I think would be possible is the police. People would fill football stadiums to watch a cop shoot somebody
I started out planning to teach, but could not complete the concept. even thought of moving to other parts of the country where education is paid more. In Detroit, a teacher can make nearly $80k a year in just a few years. But it is Detroit.On this we agree. Salaries are a direct reflection of a societies' values. We pay a lot of money for the things we care about, not so much for the the things we don't value. I'm a teacher myself, and I would argue that a good teacher is more important than a good basketball player. But until our culture recognizes that, I'll still be getting my $37,000 a year. I don't blame economics / supply and demand for this, I blame a culture that has its priorities screwed up.
I would rather see a teacher, policeman, doctor, fireman, social worker, EMS, soldier, seaman make the money over any athlete. It won't happen because we as Americans do not value their work nearly enough.
Working for society is not seen as important as entertainment.
Didn't realize this board was made up of so many socialists....
On this we agree. Salaries are a direct reflection of a societies' values. We pay a lot of money for the things we care about, not so much for the the things we don't value. I'm a teacher myself, and I would argue that a good teacher is more important than a good basketball player. But until our culture recognizes that, I'll still be getting my $37,000 a year. I don't blame economics / supply and demand for this, I blame a culture that has its priorities screwed up.
You can't have a differing opinion on this board without being a socialist or "insert random political jargon here."
Hilarious.
Poor communities (West end of Louisville needs help. Small example.), used to generate a few additional jobs somewhere, or to charity's.
I think teachers deserve more money... however teachers don't create revenue for school. Kids need school and anyone can be a teacher thru hard work and study. Public schools are for everyone hence the lower salary. Higher education generates more money hence higher salary. I could work on my basketball game 24/7 and.never even play varsity high school. Supply and demand are a direct reflection of NBA pay and the money it brings in. When a teacher sells a jersey with his/her name on it then they can get more.
Lol. You must be my evil twin because I am agreeing with you on everything today. Teachers, police etc are paid exactly what the market reflects they should be paid. These NBA players are paid exactly what the professional sports market reflects. There is no "deserving" in a free market capitalist society. You knew exactly what you were walking into when you became a teacher or a police officer. If you don't like the pay, that's your fault- you should have done something else. Fortunately, most people in those lines of work are doing it because they feel like they can make a difference. And I commend and admire them for it.Have you thought past a perfect utopian society from liberal arts class yet?
Go ahead and add up how many policeman, fireman, EMS, social workers, teachers, etc there are in this country. Some of you dont seem to understand simple math. We are a country of 350 million people and (I assume) your kind want to flood our country with even more insane immigration numbers.
So where does the money come from to pay all of those tens of thousands of cops and teachers and ems and social workers?
Those owners, most of whom did not inherit anything, put their future on the line for the investment. In some cases they deserve the reward moreso than a lucky kid with decent genes who can shoot a ball. What did they do to deserve it? Be born?
We've got the best system in the world, and some of you are so easy to manipulate you cant see the forrest through the trees.
I'm a capitalist so I believe in the free market. But no system made by people is going to perfect.I really didn't put to much work in researching this.
But this one had me shocked .
Austin Rivers PG 25 6-4 200 Duke $11,825,000 .
Please add to list with your picks.
Let the city burn and rebuild without a university.Poor communities (West end of Louisville needs help. Small example.), used to generate a few additional jobs somewhere, or to charity's.
Reduce the costs and/or pay the employees (share it around employees).
Teachers never make enough money until a community proposes a nickel tax for education.