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Over paid players in NBA

Otto Porter is fixing to make $107 mil on a four year deal. For a guy who has averaged 9 and 4 for his career....must be nice.
Not even close to one of the worst NBA contracts, though. He's 24 and coming off a year when he had a very solid PER of 17.35. And his Real +/- put him at 24th in the league, meaning he must be doing something right on D.

If Washington didn't pay him, someone else was going to.
 
If the money doesn't go to the players it would go to the already extremely wealthy owners.

A lot of the players put the money back into their communities. Lebron James is sending over 1000 kids to college with full scholarships.
Personally, I would like to see the concession workers, ticket takers, etc get more.

But, the owners OWN the team, have the financial risk if things go poorly, so if they make more, so what. It is the American way.
 
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As much as I dislike Austin Rivers he is at least a decent contributor. One of the more indefensible contracts I've seen recently was Solomon Hill. $50 million over 4 years. Career averages of 6pts 3reb 1ast

This is the kind of stuff that irks the "common man" about skyrocketing salaries.

If you say a Kobe and James, etc makes huge money, you get it...these numbers are the ones that make you sick
 
I would imagine all of those people are fairly compensated for what they do, but even assuming they're not, think about what you're suggesting.

Go with the premise that anyone over 10 million a year is overpaid. Set the max contract at 10 million. That's at least 20 million gone from every team's max contract guy.

Then you have a handful of guys making in that 17-20 million range (conservatively), and if 10 million for LeBron is too much then we definitely can't pay every player on the roster the same amount, so leave anyone under 10 million alone, none of this extra money goes to them.

Let's conservatively say this creates an extra $50 million per year just to have an even, flat number. How many people does the team employ? Not the arena staff or anyone like that who is employed independently, just the team staff.

But if players are overpaid, surely the millions to be a coach and GM and those positions are overpaid too. So not counting them, let's really exaggerate and say a team employs 100 people.

You'd rather give them all a $500,000 a year bonus than pay the 12 guys who are already generating revenue and providing jobs for those people? LeBron James makes too much but the ticket guy should make over 500k? Why?
Ticket prices can be reduced, the cost of concessions can be reduced if you are worried about an owner making too much money. Then a family can enjoy the event together.
 
The problem is all of the stats only reference offensive numbers.
Most overpaid player on each team (minus a few).

Miles Plumlee
2017-18 salary: $12,500,000
2016-17 stats: 2.5 points, 2.1 rebounds

Al Horford
2017-18 salary: $27,734,405
2016-17 stats: 14.0 points, 6.8 rebounds, 5.0 assists

Timofey Mozgov
2017-18 salary: $15,280,000
2016-17 stats: 7.4 points, 4.9 rebounds

J.R. Smith
2017-18 salary: $13,760,000
2016-17 stats: 8.6 points, 2.8 rebounds

Wesley Matthews
2017-18 salary: $17,884,175
2016-17 stats: 13.5 points, 3.5 rebounds

Andre Iguodala
2017-18 salary: $14,814,815
2016-17 stats: 7.6 points, 4.0 rebounds, 3.4 assist

Ryan Anderson
2017-18 salary: $19,578,454
2016-17 stats: 13.6 points, 4.6 rebounds

Victor Oladipo
2017-18 salary: $21,000,000
2016-17 stats: 15.9 points, 4.3 rebounds

Austin Rivers
2017-18 salary: $11,825,000
2016-17 stats: 12.0 points, 2.8 assists

Luol Deng
2017-18 salary: $17,190,000
2016-17 stats: 7.6 points, 5.3 rebound

Chandler Parsons
2017-18 salary: $23,112,004
2016-17 stats: 6.2 points, 2.5 rebounds

Mirza Teletovic
2017-18 salary: $10,500,000
2016-17 stats: 6.4 points, 2.3 rebounds

Cole Aldrich
2017-18 salary: $7,300,000
2016-17 stats: 1.7 points, 2.5 rebounds I think I can average this for half as much.

Omer Asik
2017-18 salary: $10,595,505
2016-17 stats: 2.7 points, 5.3 rebounds

Joakim Noah
2017-18 salary: $17,765,000
2016-17 stats: 5.0 points, 8.8 rebounds

Enes Kanter
2017-18 salary: $17,884,175
2016-17 stats: 14.3 points, 6.7 rebounds

Bismack Biyombo
2017-18 salary: $17,000,000
2016-17 stats: 6.0 points, 7.0 rebounds

J.J. Redick
2017-18 salary: $23,000,000
2016-17 stats: 15.0 points, 2.2 rebounds

Brandon Knight
2017-18 salary: $13,618,750
2016-17 stats: 11.0 points, 2.4 assists

Evan Turner
2017-18 salary: $17,131,148
2016-17 stats: 9.0 points, 3.8 rebounds

Ian Mahinmi
2017-18 salary: $16,661,641
2016-17 stats: 5.6 points, 4.8 rebounds


GOOD JOB....Al Horford is an excellent player, but Celtics way over paid him. Hayword too . That a very good list.
 
These guys are paid unreal amounts of money compared to people doing cancer cure research or those who keep us safe by putting their lives on the line daily. Just seems weird what our values are. AND, I am a conservative who believes in capitalism so don't go there with me either. Not trying to stifle the free market, just trying to put things in perspective.
I would rather see a teacher, policeman, doctor, fireman, social worker, EMS, soldier, seaman make the money over any athlete. It won't happen because we as Americans do not value their work nearly enough.

Working for society is not seen as important as entertainment.
 
This is the kind of stuff that irks the "common man" about skyrocketing salaries.

If you say a Kobe and James, etc makes huge money, you get it...these numbers are the ones that make you sick
Why does it bother you how much money someone else makes?
 
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Did I inadvertently walk through a time warp into a Marc Maggard conversation?

No you said I said it. I just typed from what I've heard from people in today's society.

I'm a capitalist that isn't a fan of socialism...so does that help you
 
Reduce the costs and/or pay the employees (share it around employees).

The idea that the owners of an NBA franchise (or a lemonade stand, for that matter) should "share [the money] around the employees" is based on fallacious reasoning, namely that every employee is of equal value to a company. Associate trainers, public address announcers, ballboys, and security staff members all have value, but none of them come even close to generating hundreds of thousands (much less millions) of dollars for an NBA franchise. Players, however, do generate revenue--and a lot of it. Thus, If a player makes $10,000,000 dollars while generating $10,000,001 in revenue through TV, advertising, radio, etc., then he is an excellent value. The talents and skills of a guy that can stick on an NBA roster are scarce, and things that are scare are expensive. Jobs that anyone can do have low salaries. Jobs that only a very few elite people can do have huge salaries, and you don't get much more elite than the NBA. #marketeconomics

Now, I sympathize with your position. There are some people out there really busting their asses for not much dough. And There is something intrinsically ludicrous about a grown man being payed to play a game. But you can't exactly blame the guy for taking the money. (Raise your hand if you asked your boss to pay you less money! Anyone? I didn't think so.) If you want to throw bricks at what created the millionaire man-boy playing a game for a living, look no further than modern sports culture. We enable a multi-billion dollar industry by buying tickets, TV packages, jerseys, and, yes, visiting message boards. So go ahead and argue about the fact that they're overpaid, but don't pretend that your actions are not a part of that salary. The reality is that you and people like you are the very ones that pay create the demand that generates their salary.
 
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I understand the feelings, I'm just saying there's no alternative. The money is there. People watch on tv and buy tickets and merchandise and all that. We can't just put it in a paper shredder, so I'd rather it go to the people who are the cause of all the popularity and money. If anything, I think they should get a bigger cut.

It's about rarity of talent. I'm a teacher. Most folks would argue my job is "more important" than some guy dribbling a basketball and it's absurd that he makes a zillion times more than I do. But his abilities are so much more rare than mine.

And there's a market audience for his talents. If people really cared that much, go personally hand a hundred bucks to your kid's teacher instead of paying for the deluxe sports package each month or buying the new pair of LeBrons or a 500th UK hoodie.

But we don't. And that's fine. Folks should spend their money as they please. They just gotta realize they're contributing to the problem.

Fellow Teacher Ditto
 
I would rather see a teacher, policeman, doctor, fireman, social worker, EMS, soldier, seaman make the money over any athlete. It won't happen because we as Americans do not value their work nearly enough.

Working for society is not seen as important as entertainment.

On this we agree. Salaries are a direct reflection of a societies' values. We pay a lot of money for the things we care about, not so much for the the things we don't value. I'm a teacher myself, and I would argue that a good teacher is more important than a good basketball player. But until our culture recognizes that, I'll still be getting my $37,000 a year. I don't blame economics / supply and demand for this, I blame a culture that has its priorities screwed up.
 
I would rather see a teacher, policeman, doctor, fireman, social worker, EMS, soldier, seaman make the money over any athlete. It won't happen because we as Americans do not value their work nearly enough.

Working for society is not seen as important as entertainment.
None of those professions generates revenue. If they could sell out an arena for people to watch them work, they can make that much. The only one I think would be possible is the police. People would fill football stadiums to watch a cop shoot somebody
 
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None of those professions generates revenue. If they could sell out an arena for people to watch them work, they can make that much. The only one I think would be possible is the police. People would fill football stadiums to watch a cop shoot somebody


Ehh-- I'd go to a stadium to watch a teacher shoot somebody. Or nurse- that could be kinda hot (she can't have cankles though)
 
On this we agree. Salaries are a direct reflection of a societies' values. We pay a lot of money for the things we care about, not so much for the the things we don't value. I'm a teacher myself, and I would argue that a good teacher is more important than a good basketball player. But until our culture recognizes that, I'll still be getting my $37,000 a year. I don't blame economics / supply and demand for this, I blame a culture that has its priorities screwed up.
I started out planning to teach, but could not complete the concept. even thought of moving to other parts of the country where education is paid more. In Detroit, a teacher can make nearly $80k a year in just a few years. But it is Detroit.
I have come back to it though in my older years, teaching at a college everyone discusses on here.:rolleyes:
 
I would rather see a teacher, policeman, doctor, fireman, social worker, EMS, soldier, seaman make the money over any athlete. It won't happen because we as Americans do not value their work nearly enough.

Working for society is not seen as important as entertainment.

Have you thought past a perfect utopian society from liberal arts class yet?

Go ahead and add up how many policeman, fireman, EMS, social workers, teachers, etc there are in this country. Some of you dont seem to understand simple math. We are a country of 350 million people and (I assume) your kind want to flood our country with even more insane immigration numbers.

So where does the money come from to pay all of those tens of thousands of cops and teachers and ems and social workers?

Those owners, most of whom did not inherit anything, put their future on the line for the investment. In some cases they deserve the reward moreso than a lucky kid with decent genes who can shoot a ball. What did they do to deserve it? Be born?

We've got the best system in the world, and some of you are so easy to manipulate you cant see the forrest through the trees.
 
On this we agree. Salaries are a direct reflection of a societies' values. We pay a lot of money for the things we care about, not so much for the the things we don't value. I'm a teacher myself, and I would argue that a good teacher is more important than a good basketball player. But until our culture recognizes that, I'll still be getting my $37,000 a year. I don't blame economics / supply and demand for this, I blame a culture that has its priorities screwed up.

I think teachers deserve more money... however teachers don't create revenue for school. Kids need school and anyone can be a teacher thru hard work and study. Public schools are for everyone hence the lower salary. Higher education generates more money hence higher salary. I could work on my basketball game 24/7 and.never even play varsity high school. Supply and demand are a direct reflection of NBA pay and the money it brings in. When a teacher sells a jersey with his/her name on it then they can get more.
 
The odd things ab
I think teachers deserve more money... however teachers don't create revenue for school. Kids need school and anyone can be a teacher thru hard work and study. Public schools are for everyone hence the lower salary. Higher education generates more money hence higher salary. I could work on my basketball game 24/7 and.never even play varsity high school. Supply and demand are a direct reflection of NBA pay and the money it brings in. When a teacher sells a jersey with his/her name on it then they can get more.

The odd thing about teacher pay is that the job seems to be immune to the forces of supply and demand. Teachers, especially high school teachers, are in very high demand. Teaching slots go unfilled every year because there simply aren't enough people to do the job. (As of typing this, there are 160 empty chairs in Kentucky high schools). In most cases, such shortages would make salaries skyrocket, but not for teachers. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that it is, by and large, a government job and thus insulated (for better or worse) from traditional market forces.
 
Have you thought past a perfect utopian society from liberal arts class yet?

Go ahead and add up how many policeman, fireman, EMS, social workers, teachers, etc there are in this country. Some of you dont seem to understand simple math. We are a country of 350 million people and (I assume) your kind want to flood our country with even more insane immigration numbers.

So where does the money come from to pay all of those tens of thousands of cops and teachers and ems and social workers?

Those owners, most of whom did not inherit anything, put their future on the line for the investment. In some cases they deserve the reward moreso than a lucky kid with decent genes who can shoot a ball. What did they do to deserve it? Be born?

We've got the best system in the world, and some of you are so easy to manipulate you cant see the forrest through the trees.
Lol. You must be my evil twin because I am agreeing with you on everything today. Teachers, police etc are paid exactly what the market reflects they should be paid. These NBA players are paid exactly what the professional sports market reflects. There is no "deserving" in a free market capitalist society. You knew exactly what you were walking into when you became a teacher or a police officer. If you don't like the pay, that's your fault- you should have done something else. Fortunately, most people in those lines of work are doing it because they feel like they can make a difference. And I commend and admire them for it.
 
I really didn't put to much work in researching this.

But this one had me shocked .


Austin Rivers PG 25 6-4 200 Duke $11,825,000 .

Please add to list with your picks.
I'm a capitalist so I believe in the free market. But no system made by people is going to perfect.

If you think people playing morally deserve more financial reward than a soldier, doctor, teacher, police, or any other profession that protects or helps our society to grow than your priorities are screwed up.

That being said, capitalism is far superior to the alternatives.
 
Reduce the costs and/or pay the employees (share it around employees).

reduce the costs? As in charge less money? As in voluntarily make less money? As is voluntarily be less profitable? As is you evil capitalists, you?

share it around? as in from each according to his ability to each according to his need? as in fundamental Marxist socialism?
 
Teachers never make enough money until a community proposes a nickel tax for education.

But they have first class retirement packages, not to mention their summers off (must be nice) and any time their bunny-loving pension funds are threatened it's on the backs of private-sector tax payers to bail them out on the basis of some form of guilt or moral issue that no form of tribulation whatsoever should befall a school teacher?
 
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