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Out of gas? Did anybody suggest this?

Yes it was b2b late games but they're paid college athletes. If they ran outta gas, then our conditioning isn't where it needs to be.
I am sure that you give 100% all of the time at work? I am sure you never have a day where you just are not up to snuff.........
 
Let me know when they stop using our head to head record to determine conference rankings and start using your transitive model. Looking forward to it.
So answer me this: In 22-23, we swept Tennessee, so we were better than that year's Tennessee, even though we were otherwise mediocre. According to your logic, you would answer, “Yes, our 22-23 team was better than 22-23 Tennessee team”

That's your logic, 'We swept them' = 'We were better than them for the entire season', and then you say 'they just had better outcomes'? That's hilarious.

I don't disagree that when we're fully healthy, we'd likely be a 2-seed and could probably win at home vs. Bama, and make it a much closer battle against Auburn.
 
You cannot based these things on 2 games in a 30 game season.

You could say we were better than UT on those days we played them.
But we aren't basing this on 2 games. We are basing this on the results of an entire season and in that regard I'm not sure how anyone could argue the fact.

We also beat UF when we played them. Is anyone suggesting we are better than UF at this point?
We beat Duke too. Does anyone think we are better than Duke?
 
So answer me this: In 22-23, we swept Tennessee, so we were better than that year's Tennessee, even though we were otherwise mediocre. According to your logic, you would answer, “Yes, our 22-23 team was better than 22-23 Tennessee team”

That's your logic, 'We swept them' = 'We were better than them for the entire season', and then you say 'they just had better outcomes'? That's hilarious.

I don't disagree that when we're fully healthy, we'd likely be a 2-seed and could probably win at home vs. Bama, and make it a much closer battle against Auburn.

Head to head we are better than the teams we sweep.
 
Head to head we are better than the teams we sweep.
So you admit “22-23 UK team was better than 22-23 UT team" only because we swept them that year, this is your logic.

I suggest awarding a 'Season Sweep Tennessee Trophy' and giving us a 1-seed because we won the head-to-head against UT. That's your logic.
 
So you admit “22-23 UK team was better than 22-23 UT team" only because we swept them that year, this is your logic.

I suggest awarding a 'Season Sweep Tennessee Trophy' and giving us a 1-seed because we won the head-to-head against UT. That's your logic.

We are clearly arguing different points but frame it however you would like.
 
I'm not sure even at full health we were but it certainly would have been interesting to have seen what would have played out in those games and the rest of the season if healthy.

It's possible.

I think this is right. Always felt like we were just outside the top tier even though we beat a number of the best teams. I think a lot of that shows the strength of our coaching staffs ability to put together an excellent game plan.
 
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I think this is right. Always felt like we were just outside the top tier even though we beat a number of the best teams. I think a lot of that shows the strength of our coaching staffs ability to put together an excellent game plan.

Still a very good season when it's all said and done.

IMO not just in the SEC, but I believe we are in that tier just right below the teams contending for a national title. Hopefully we have time to rest up a bit, get some guys healthy and make a decent run here.
 
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When we are fully healthy the whole season, we could be high 2 seed

Do not think we will be 1 seed...

Still a big accomplishment for Pope in year 1

I think top 5 this year are on another level, TN is solid #6, MSU is #7, and huge gap between #7 and #8 (SJU)
 
We just secured a No. 3 or 4 seed—while missing our backup point guard, having two starters out for more than half of SEC play, and another starter nonexistent for a month due to back injuries. Extremely excited about our future.
We will be three seed.

If Bulter is not confirmed to be out for the season, we are 3.

Do not think NCAA committee has bad ill toward us recently. 22 and 24 we both got good path, and we screwed it by Cal
 
I kinda see a scenario where we are West with Florida and Stjohns as our 1 and 2.

But it's entirely dependent on where they are exactly on that 3 line.
 
To me, if we are being honest here........and this is to take nothing away from what Mark Pope and UK has done this season, UK was not a top team in the SEC this year.

Auburn was better.
Alabama was better
Florida was better
UT was better.

Over the course of the entire season, those teams were clear cut above. UK IMO was the 5th best team but on a tier lower than those teams. And when the seeding comes out tomorrow, it will bear that out.
UK beat Tennessee twice and Florida the one time they played, neither game was with a a full and healthy roster, yet you spew this BS. Auburn and bama I'll give you, but still not a full squad for those games either. A 100% healthy UK could beat anyone this year. It's like you didn't watch any games...smh
 
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UK beat Tennessee twice and Florida the one time they played, neither game was with a a full and healthy roster, yet you spew this BS. Auburn and bama I'll give you, but still not a full squad for those games either. A 100% healthy UK could beat anyone this year. It's like you didn't watch any games...smh
But these teams have not suffered a "bad loss" like ours against Arkansas (Q2 loss) or on a neutral court against OSU 20 pts loss (vs bubble team). Using distribution to measure strength, we have a lower mean and higher variance compared to TN.
 
But these teams have not suffered a "bad loss" like ours against Arkansas (Q2 loss) or on a neutral court against OSU 20 pts loss (vs bubble team). Using distribution to measure strength, we have a lower mean and higher variance compared to TN.
Those were quad 1 losses without a full roster . UK had more wins over top 15 teams. Keep trying to slew things to support your narrative. A healthy UK is a top 5 team in the country. You can't even argue that.
 
Those were quad 1 losses without a full roster . UK had more wins over top 15 teams. Keep trying to slew things to support your narrative. A healthy UK is a top 5 team in the country. You can't even argue that.

That can certainly be argued.

The mere fact that multiple people are debating means it can be.
 
Those were quad 1 losses without a full roster . UK had more wins over top 15 teams. Keep trying to slew things to support your narrative. A healthy UK is a top 5 team in the country. You can't even argue that.
I think a fully healthy UK team will be in similar spot with TN (high 2 seed) now. Do not think we will be #1 seed.

We would still lose some games to "mediocre" physical teams even fully healthy...
 
Our second half performance against Bama was the worst we have played all season. However, has anyone brought up that the team had to play a very late night game the evening before in a hard fought physical game? It didn't seem exactly fair to me that the turn-around time was limited. Did the team simply run out of gas?
It felt like our guys gave up after they were up by 15.
 
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It felt like our guys gave up after they were up by 15.
Another reason is that we've already played against them three times. The third defeat is bound to be even more painful and disheartening. After losing once or twice, the players might still think, "We can still fight." But after down by 15 in third game, they may start to feel, "Bama are truly unbeatable.", and then they were totally collapsing on the court
 
To the few that said we should be better conditioned. We also were down 2 guards and then Butler went out again . Also Oweh missed a stretch .

It’s hard to win when that happens then factor in our first game ending so late . It’s a legit reason .
 
Don’t care if you’re ten. The body doesn’t respond to abnormal stress
Yep.

My 13 year old just started AAU practice while his Jr Pro league was still going on and he had back to back practices along with about 4 more kids. They went a total of 3 hours straight of practice. He’s a big man, so he was close to puking and barely could move when he got home. Even the little guards that can run all day were sucking wind at the end of practice. The next day, he was off and barely moved. Did I mention he is 13? LOL!

And 8:30 to 9:00 tip times mess you up, anyway. Usually, a player has the next day off to rest, but not in a conference tourney. So back to back days, when you play the late game, always puts you at a disadvantage, regardless of age.

And when you are playing a fresh team that didn’t have to play the late game, it is even worse.
 
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