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OT: Terry Rozier being investigated

One of the worst things that's happened in modern American sports is this current push to make sports gambling part of being a fan. It was fine when it was underground, but now you have ESPN spending 1/3 of their broadcast time talking about gambling. Bizarre. The real question is why did this become acceptable, and loudly encouraged, seemingly overnight?
 
One of the worst things that's happened in modern American sports is this current push to make sports gambling part of being a fan. It was fine when it was underground, but now you have ESPN spending 1/3 of their broadcast time talking about gambling. Bizarre. The real question is why did this become acceptable, and loudly encouraged, seemingly overnight?
The answer to those types of questions is always "money".
 
The answer to those types of questions is always "money".
Obviously. But I think it's also because the monster (corruption) was becoming to big to keep in the cage. This gets fans numb to all the occasionally stories that will trickle out about players and refs. Tim Donaghy and Pete Rose would've gotten three days of coverage today. Feels like they're normalizing corruption, IMO.
 
Obviously. But I think it's also because the monster (corruption) was becoming to big to keep in the cage. This gets fans numb to all the occasionally stories that will trickle out about players and refs. Tim Donaghy and Pete Rose would've gotten three days of coverage today. Feels like they're normalizing corruption, IMO.
as you point out it has gotten too big for it's cage, what else can the media do other than normalize it?
 
One of the worst things that's happened in modern American sports is this current push to make sports gambling part of being a fan. It was fine when it was underground, but now you have ESPN spending 1/3 of their broadcast time talking about gambling. Bizarre. The real question is why did this become acceptable, and loudly encouraged, seemingly overnight?

I agree with this 100%. The "moneyline" is as big a part of the preview as any of the actual basketball. It's gross.
 
Obviously. But I think it's also because the monster (corruption) was becoming to big to keep in the cage. This gets fans numb to all the occasionally stories that will trickle out about players and refs. Tim Donaghy and Pete Rose would've gotten three days of coverage today. Feels like they're normalizing corruption, IMO.
I really don't think it's anything more complicated than money. IMO it's not some big conspiracy to whitewash or normalize corruption.

The big casinos and gambling sites spent enough money lobbying to get sports betting legalized in a bunch of states and then took all the money they made from that and spent it on advertising and "buying airtime" to have sports broadcasts and ESPN push gambling.

Although I will admit that I do see how MGM, Draft Kings, FanDuel, etc. benefit from downplaying corruption. The bigger these stories get, the less faith people will have in the legitimacy of sports outcomes.
 
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this is wide spread in all sports ever since the gambling apps went live in more states starting with NCAAF season in 2023. there is a reason a lot of states are talking about banning prop bets for college sports
 
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In case anybody was curious, the specific allegation is that a suspicious number of people bet the under on his individual stats in a particular game where he ended up shutting himself down for the rest of the game (and eventually the final 8 games of that season) after the 1st quarter with a reported foot injury despite not being on any prior injury reports. That certainly smells like someone got word ahead of time that he wasn’t playing the whole game.

I don’t really believe that sports are WWE style scripted events with predetermined outcomes like a lot of you apparently do, but this is the more subtle but no less corrupt kind of thing that the leagues being in bed with the betting markets absolutely encourages. That never should have been allowed to happen, but like a lot of things greed ruins, it’s going to be hard to put the genie back in the bottle now that the money is flowing.
 
Obviously. But I think it's also because the monster (corruption) was becoming to big to keep in the cage. This gets fans numb to all the occasionally stories that will trickle out about players and refs. Tim Donaghy and Pete Rose would've gotten three days of coverage today. Feels like they're normalizing corruption, IMO.
Of course they are, the 1% will own everything no matter what. We have the carrot of possible winnings but in reality it’s fixed so we waste our money.
 
this is wide spread in all sports ever since the gambling apps went live in more states starting with NCAAF season in 2023. there is a reason a lot of states are talking about banning prop bets for college sports
I think anyone involved in games should be investaged every year. Players, coaches, refs, and family. It’s just like those with top secret clearance, they go thru your entire family. Same thing here to stop what they can.
 
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