OT: Miami's Larranaga stepping down

[Smashcat]

The Hurricanes lost to Mount St. Mary's in overtime last week, dooming it to a 4-18 record in their last 22 games dating back to last season.

Jim Larranaga stepping down at Miami: Hurricanes coach leaving post amid 4-8 start to season, per reports

Larranaga, 75, will step aside after the program's worst start in more than three decades

www.cbssports.com

 

[kywildcat41035]

The Hurricanes lost to Mount St. Mary's in overtime last week, dooming it to a 4-18 record in their last 22 games dating back to last season.

Jim Larranaga stepping down at Miami: Hurricanes coach leaving post amid 4-8 start to season, per reports

Larranaga, 75, will step aside after the program's worst start in more than three decades

www.cbssports.com

I think you’re going to start to see more and more coaches do this. The NIL the way it’s shaping up is going to push a lot of coaches into retirement already has quite a few!

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Dudes 75. It's amazing he made a final four at 73 2 years ago. Miami isn't Duke or unc though so sustaining things n this new era was going to be a challenge.

 

[FirewithFire]

Guy was a good coach and had a great run. I mean 75 and still coaching. It's impressive.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

Taking George Mason OR Miami to a Final Four is an extraordinary accomplishment that marks you as the greatest coach in program history, probably forever. Taking George Mason AND Miami to a Final Four? That's almost miraculous.

 

[natchezrule]

I think you’re going to start to see more and more coaches do this. The NIL the way it’s shaping up is going to push a lot of coaches into retirement already has quite a few!

NIL blows

 

[catfan220]

I think you’re going to start to see more and more coaches do this. The NIL the way it’s shaping up is going to push a lot of coaches into retirement already has quite a few!

Maybe, but Larranaga was 75, it’s a bit different than Jay Wright and Tony Bennett stepping down.

 

[gbl97]

He takes Miami to a Final Four and 8 of his players transfer. I don't blame him.

 

[uk78]

They have to figure out something to change with the NIL. Maybe there has to be a commitment of two years. Before someone says that can't be done. Not true. Nurses now sign contracts at hospitals for time commitments and if they leave early they have to repay a portion. Now maybe a pro contract would compensate for the pay back but still there has to be some disincentives or other rule changes so this doesn't completely ruin college programs.
Feel the same about college football and players not participating in bowl games. The transfer portal has to occur after the end of seasons post the National Championship date and not before.

 

[ukcatz12]

Maybe there has to be a commitment of two years. Before someone says that can't be done. Not true. Nurses now sign contracts at hospitals for time commitments and if they leave early they have to repay a portion.

It can be done IF it reaches a critical mass where basically all big programs only offer NIL that come with contracts. But there needs to be buy in from almost all schools for it to work. If 50% of the big programs offer NIL that comes with a two year contract and 50% don't, the players will just choose the deal that gives them the most freedom. The deals with strings attached would be less attractive.

 

[gbl97]

It can be done IF it reaches a critical mass where basically all big programs only offer NIL that come with contracts. But there needs to be buy in from almost all schools for it to work. If 50% of the big programs offer NIL that comes with a two year contract and 50% don't, the players will just choose the deal that gives them the most freedom. The deals with strings attached would be less attractive.

Maybe the offer would be better if you commit to 2 years. Kind of like a phone contract. And if you "switch carriers" early, you lose a portion.

 

[bbncal02]

Maybe the offer would be better if you commit to 2 years. Kind of like a phone contract. And if you "switch carriers" early, you lose a portion.

The only issue there would be, what if you commit to 2 years- have an amazing season, and want to go pro or get an offer to go pro? Would NBA teams be willing to buy out their contract? Probably not. Same goes for other schools. I like the concept, just not sure how that would work in practice.

 

[chroix]

The only issue there would be, what if you commit to 2 years- have an amazing season, and want to go pro or get an offer to go pro? Would NBA teams be willing to buy out their contract? Probably not. Same goes for other schools. I like the concept, just not sure how that would work in practice.

This is the obvious issue with that plan. What one and done would commit to a two year contract? They’d just go to a program that was ok with one year contracts.

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

Just go back to Div 1 allowing only 1 transfer without penalty of sitting out. Schools won’t pay guys to sit on the bench. Players will have to make the best decision for a longer term.

 

[kats23]

If he was 10-2 I bet NIL wouldn’t bother him that much to quit midseason. Fairly ironic they whine about the players having 0 loyalty and running when things get tough and then quit themselves when things get tough

 

[bnewt]

I think you’re going to start to see more and more coaches do this. The NIL the way it’s shaping up is going to push a lot of coaches into retirement already has quite a few!

Agree, college sports is broken
Now, it's just a minor league

 

[Nightwish84]

If he was 10-2 I bet NIL wouldn’t bother him that much to quit midseason. Fairly ironic they whine about the players having 0 loyalty and running when things get tough and then quit themselves when things get tough

This. Heck of a coach but if he's struggling to adapt or wants out now that his team sucks, so be it and next man up who's hungrier and ready for the opportunity and challenge. Plenty of younger coaches will crawl over coals to coach a program like Miami.

 

[ukcatz12]

This is the obvious issue with that plan. What one and done would commit to a two year contract? They’d just go to a program that was ok with one year contracts.

Probably fairly easy to put in a clause that says leaving to go pro after a year is fine, but leaving to go to another school requires a buyout.

 

[chroix]

Probably fairly easy to put in a clause that says leaving to go pro after a year is fine, but leaving to go to another school requires a buyout.

Can’t wait for that phase of things.

 

[Fox2monk]

The Hurricanes lost to Mount St. Mary's in overtime last week, dooming it to a 4-18 record in their last 22 games dating back to last season.

Jim Larranaga stepping down at Miami: Hurricanes coach leaving post amid 4-8 start to season, per reports

Larranaga, 75, will step aside after the program's worst start in more than three decades

www.cbssports.com

I feel bad for him as they have been competitive in a lot of those games but they lost all their talent to the portal. I think he’s worn out in the new landscape. Can’t blame him. He was a great coach though,

 

[bthaunert]

Just go back to Div 1 allowing only 1 transfer without penalty of sitting out. Schools won’t pay guys to sit on the bench. Players will have to make the best decision for a longer term.

Courts already shot that down.

 

[BigKari]

It’s really not surprising to me, I was surprised he stuck around to coach this season. I thought he’d maybe go out after the Final 4.

 

[sosoblue]

I think you’re going to start to see more and more coaches do this. The NIL the way it’s shaping up is going to push a lot of coaches into retirement already has quite a few!

That's on them I rather have the 7 digit salary. I will figure the rest out lol.

 

[blackcat714]

Guy was a good coach and had a great run. I mean 75 and still coaching. It's impressive.

Its impressive to still be alive at that age

 

[TheAnonymous13]

I saw him a few years ago, and thought at the time- it would be his last season. He had some real struggles with his back.

 

[bbncal02]

That's on them I rather have the 7 digit salary. I will figure the rest out lol.

He's had a 7 digit salary for a few years. I imagine he's gonna be just fine. Hell give me that for one year. I'd be just fine. As would most of us with some semblance of common sense.

 

[KYExtemper]

Just go back to Div 1 allowing only 1 transfer without penalty of sitting out. Schools won’t pay guys to sit on the bench. Players will have to make the best decision for a longer term.

The problem is the courts right now have struck down every rule the NCAA has. As I've said in other threads, I'm just waiting for them to overturn academic eligiblity requirements or even limits on only getting 4 years to play. The courts keep saying the NCAA cannot put "limits on a player's ability to earn." Well, if that's the standard there's like nothing that can stand in the way of that.

I think the only way we get any type of sense back is for the universities to move in lockstep and force a CBA with players, locking them out if necessary. People will hate not getting a season of a sport but something drastic is needed.

I also don't see this as a voluntary stepping down. Larranaga was catching heat over the last two seasons not being on par with his Final Four year. I do think NIL probably wears him down but I think this is a way for Miami to see what they have with someone else in conference season and go from there. I see it as him being pushed aside/out more than him leaving because he wants to.

 

[bbncal02]

The problem is the courts right now have struck down every rule the NCAA has. As I've said in other threads, I'm just waiting for them to overturn academic eligiblity requirements or even limits on only getting 4 years to play. The courts keep saying the NCAA cannot put "limits on a player's ability to earn." Well, if that's the standard there's like nothing that can stand in the way of that.

I think the only way we get any type of sense back is for the universities to move in lockstep and force a CBA with players, locking them out if necessary. People will hate not getting a season of a sport but something drastic is needed.

I also don't see this as a voluntary stepping down. Larranaga was catching heat over the last two seasons not being on par with his Final Four year. I do think NIL probably wears him down but I think this is a way for Miami to see what they have with someone else in conference season and go from there. I see it as him being pushed aside/out more than him leaving because he wants to.

Yeah, Miami has not been the same since we curb stomped them. We broke them.

 

[HeismaNole]

Fix the portal and you’ll make a huge dent in the problems. Can’t have free agency for your entire roster every single year. This is stupid. It’s operating like the pros with no structure whatsoever.

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

The problem is the courts right now have struck down every rule the NCAA has. As I've said in other threads, I'm just waiting for them to overturn academic eligiblity requirements or even limits on only getting 4 years to play. The courts keep saying the NCAA cannot put "limits on a player's ability to earn." Well, if that's the standard there's like nothing that can stand in the way of that.

I think the only way we get any type of sense back is for the universities to move in lockstep and force a CBA with players, locking them out if necessary. People will hate not getting a season of a sport but something drastic is needed.

I also don't see this as a voluntary stepping down. Larranaga was catching heat over the last two seasons not being on par with his Final Four year. I do think NIL probably wears him down but I think this is a way for Miami to see what they have with someone else in conference season and go from there. I see it as him being pushed aside/out more than him leaving because he wants to.

I have to agree. The courts have brought us here but I understand both sides of the coin. Somewhere along the lines, someone has to use some common sense eventually. Right now, college basketball as we know it is history.

 

[Blue_2_the_bone]

Fix the portal and you’ll make a huge dent in the problems. Can’t have free agency for your entire roster every single year. This is stupid. It’s operating like the pros with no structure whatsoever.

Worse. It’s like if the NBA had unrestricted free agency every single year.

 

[TucsonCat]

What the hell does quitting on your team in the middle of the season got to do with NIL?

 

[HeismaNole]

Worse. It’s like if the NBA had unrestricted free agency every single year.

Yeah that’s my point. It’s crazy. You can’t operate like this and the NCAA does nothing. Get rid of the NCAA. Have the power four or whatever create their own super league- get a collective bargaining with contracts and salary cap at this point.

I think it would be terrible to work as a college coach right now. Recruiting already sucks to have to do but having to do it every single year with your own team has got to just be exhausting.

Someone have a good game? Well now they want more. You can never have any depth this way.

 

[megablue]

 

[cbrwalt]

Just a few thoughts:

NIL/Transfer portal is not ruining anything. It is changing the college landscape, but its not ruining anything. Its creating more parity, and allowing schools to rebuild their roster much faster than ever before. If Calipari left 5 years ago, our roster would have been decimated and it would have took at least 2-3 years to recover from.

Miami coach was making 3 million a year (most Americans wont make that in 20 years of working). I'm not feeling sorry for a coach that has to recruit a new 10-12 man roster each year and getting 3 million dollars.

Miami coach bailed on George Mason after he took them to a final four but he is upset when his Miami players bail on him after they went to a final four. Peak hypocrisy

Miami went to a final four with a team made up entirely of transfer players. Miami coach sure didn't mind the transfer portal that year. He didn't mind taking players from other schools when it benefited him.

Miami coach quit on his team mid season after losing several games they should not have. Great example of quitting. I bet he would have lost his mind if they did that to him.

 

[Nightwish84]

Yeah that’s my point. It’s crazy. You can’t operate like this and the NCAA does nothing. Get rid of the NCAA. Have the power four or whatever create their own super league- get a collective bargaining with contracts and salary cap at this point.

I think it would be terrible to work as a college coach right now. Recruiting already sucks to have to do but having to do it every single year with your own team has got to just be exhausting.

Someone have a good game? Well now they want more. You can never have any depth this way.

1) But you can. UCONN has thrived, KU remains consistent, and Duke is still solid as is Houston. The SEC is the strongest it's ever been, in a few short months Louisville has become a thousand times better than they've been the last two years and UK rebounded immediately after Cal walked and took half our starting line with him. You can operate just fine in the NIL world.

2) Let's all get out our tiny violins for the millionaire coaches who need to maintain the programs they lead.

Little changes here and there can always be made I suppose but your post is full of doom and gloom while feeling sorry for coaches who get paid millions, can skip out on pressers/coach's shows, and can walk to another job anytime they like.